Mushrooms on the wall

[Gillian]

HI

I was in Renaris last night, keep defence vs Hibs. A new (to me) tactic was Animists casting mushrooms onto the tops of walls and into the window frames of the towers.

Now as a sorc I can mezz them...although Mythic has limited how many i can mezz in one go (total...mutli mezzes does not help apparently, once the limit is hit thats it). So once the stack of mushrooms is deeper than my grannys best apple pie, there is no way to counteract them that I can see......suggestions ?

It was damned annoying (and potentially deadly on the window by the stairs coz u cant see em till you are being mega nuked to hell)....it kept us clear of several startegic casting points and defence points many times. You can get out of their range (if you have Los) and nuke them down...but the power to do this is very heavy...way more than the power taken to put them there.

I have piccies if people want to see them, let me know.

So tactical suggestions to fight back please. Smart play by the hibbies, although i am not 100% sure Mythic saw the potential of this tactic, and thus I am not sure its working as intended.

Rabid - 50 Sorc
ASq

p.s. before non sorcs make suggestions: Confuse does not work in rvr. AOE Amnesia is way very power hungry so yes you can spam amnesia for a while, then tanks can get on them (i assume, not tried), but you will run out of power before the 1st couple are dead.

 

[acei]

Only way to counteract would be a PBAOE-bomb squad or AE-DD spam. Either way summoning pets through windows needs fixing

 

[Fedaykin]

font of power + nuke ? you just need a cleric

 

[Tallen]

GTAoE?

 

[[NO]Magmatic]

DD storm... Schrooms have what? 500-600HP?

DD storm hits for 120ish on them (every 6s), put a str/con debuff (increases magic damage on them) at their 'spawn point' too, and you shouldnt have any problems with them...

Make sure the person that casted the DD storm isnt close once it hits though

Schrooms are evil though, I'll give you that...

 

[yaruar]

Only way to counteract would be a PBAOE-bomb squad or AE-DD spam. Either way summoning pets through windows needs fixing

Get thanes in your group. Stacked there is no dropoff and I was hitting the little buggers for 300 a pop and getting rid of a stack every 6 seconds

 

[Belomar]

Mushroom, mushroom on the wall... Tell me, please, who can pwn them all?

 

[Righthandof]

boring whine
spamming mushrooms takes tons of mana, so it can only work if they have FoP set up. its not a too quick spell to cast, you can interrupt, or if you were blind, do your own FoP inside the castle, and newk those mushrooms. you dont have FoP? if they werent lazy doing ML's, as u were, they deserve to be effiecient.

 

[Aloca]

With no Fop i can spam lvl 5 shrooms forever, ok they only do 10dmg but 70 of them do 700dmg.

with fop i can twist lvl 21 lvl 16 shrooms forever, they much more dmg.

 

[Fluid]

With no Fop i can spam lvl 5 shrooms forever, ok they only do 10dmg but 70 of them do 700dmg.

with fop i can twist lvl 21 lvl 16 shrooms forever, they much more dmg.

i have capped duration, capped power, capped power % and i can only just spam endless 16's in fop, how can u do 21's?

 

[Lejemorder]

With no Fop i can spam lvl 5 shrooms forever, ok they only do 10dmg but 70 of them do 700dmg.

with fop i can twist lvl 21 lvl 16 shrooms forever, they much more dmg.

u can only cast 15 shrooms now so much more worth casting higher lvl shrooms

 

[Lejemorder]

HI

I was in Renaris last night, keep defence vs Hibs. A new (to me) tactic was Animists casting mushrooms onto the tops of walls and into the window frames of the towers.

Now as a sorc I can mezz them...although Mythic has limited how many i can mezz in one go (total...mutli mezzes does not help apparently, once the limit is hit thats it). So once the stack of mushrooms is deeper than my grannys best apple pie, there is no way to counteract them that I can see......suggestions ?

It was damned annoying (and potentially deadly on the window by the stairs coz u cant see em till you are being mega nuked to hell)....it kept us clear of several startegic casting points and defence points many times. You can get out of their range (if you have Los) and nuke them down...but the power to do this is very heavy...way more than the power taken to put them there.

I have piccies if people want to see them, let me know.

So tactical suggestions to fight back please. Smart play by the hibbies, although i am not 100% sure Mythic saw the potential of this tactic, and thus I am not sure its working as intended.

Rabid - 50 Sorc
ASq

p.s. before non sorcs make suggestions: Confuse does not work in rvr. AOE Amnesia is way very power hungry so yes you can spam amnesia for a while, then tanks can get on them (i assume, not tried), but you will run out of power before the 1st couple are dead.

its not a bug to place shrooms on the wall or in the windows as u can place u self there.
the low lvls shrooms mostly die to 1 or 2 aoes from a fire wizzy and if stacked in same spot he will do max dmg on them all. If it was high lvl shrooms it maybe takes 4-5 nukes but the animist will be left with no power and te fire wizzy hopefull kind abit power back.

 

[Reno]

u can only cast 15 shrooms now so much more worth casting higher lvl shrooms

Not really, the 15 shroom limit is in patch 1.69.

Danita

 

[Fluid]

u can only cast 15 shrooms now so much more worth casting higher lvl shrooms

u can cast infinite shrooms, u can cast 15 in 1.69

 

[nol]

nurf 15 shrooms

 

[Archon]

15x100(or have much good shrooms nuke for)dmg = lol still

 

[noaim]

i have capped duration, capped power, capped power % and i can only just spam endless 16's in fop, how can u do 21's?

Pls post template

Unless its an animist farmbot template, then I dont want/need it

 

[Lejemorder]

u can cast infinite shrooms, u can cast 15 in 1.69

good u posted that coz i wasnt sure if it really was 1.69
and btw my mistake but easy to get cofused bout what comes in what patch

 

[tedStar]

Necro with pow drain would do the job...

 

[vintervargen]

fluid - maybe cause he got less dex/cast speed and hence less maxshrooms?

 

[Wyleia]

you gotta be in 1k range to cast shrooms, so if you let the hibs sit there within 1k range of your keep with no interrupt (gtaoe, nukes from walls whatever) cast enough shrooms on your ramparts where your 'mezz limit' is exceeded if you try to mezz them all... err well good for the hibs

 

[Aloca]

fluid - maybe cause he got less dex/cast speed and hence less maxshrooms?

Before toa sc only so Bingo

 

[Eroa]

i have capped duration, capped power, capped power % and i can only just spam endless 16's in fop, how can u do 21's?

serenity+crack makes you able to spam lvl 21 shrooms

 

[Fluid]

Pls post template

Unless its an animist farmbot template, then I dont want/need it

is all rog stuff

 

[noaim]

is all rog stuff

Cheap bastard

 

[Khale]

Just stay away from keeps no use to defend or to attack em with enemies inside anyway. Besides we got nothing to loose as we don't have relics anyway.

 

[Flimgoblin]

DD storm... Schrooms have what? 500-600HP?

they're over 1k...
however storm+str/con debuff would hopefully do something to them.

Necros with powertap are handy, however you need to notice them first - whichever poor sap runs into 20 shrooms first will take a couple of barrages even if they get out of LOS.

Animists are bad enough once the first door is down and the courtyard is littered with lagshrooms but casting through windows is just a joke.

 

[PJS]

Smart play by the hibbies, although i am not 100% sure Mythic saw the potential of this tactic, and thus I am not sure its working as intended.

Thats because DaoC doesnt have any bugs. Everything is working as intended until Mythic change their mind. Then it is still working as intended, just the intention has changed.