Most popular groupsetups?

[Stallion]

Now that we're far into NF, people have gained ranks and the new Realm Abilitty system is well known, aswell as the new class specific Realm Abilities. What setups do you prefere and why? Keep guildnames, playernames, groupnames out of this thread to avoid "insults" and flames. Thanks!

 

[Vodkafairy]

druid
druid
bard
warden
bl bm
bl bm
hero/champ
light eld

cleric
cleric
friar
sorc
theurg
bl merc
bl merc
spiritcaba/mincer with a clue

healer pm
healer mp
healer ma
shaman
ml10 bl bd / supp runie / dark sm with a clue
thane/meril p)
bl zerk
bl zerk

for fg vs fg

for farming zergs and towercamping a lot of things work, but key is red nearsight and lots of ae dmg / twf / st

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

Have to admit , when dropping ST3 in a tower lord room and then twf3 it's always interesting , jsut wish st3 gave some ds

 

[[NO]Subedai]

well for Mid atleast i like

M/P Healer
M/P Healer
M/A Healer
Shammy
BL Zerk
BL Zerk
Svg/Thane
SM/BD

i think 2 bl zerks in group is very powerful for midgard and after that there are alot of things that can work in a grp. static tempest on a thane is great, while they also have slam and bodygaurd which makes them alot nicer. Savage is great assist tank and svg assisting with zerks is very powerful, additionally they have bodygaurd which works great alongside a tank train, as alot of fights end up with enemy tanks going for ur light tanks.

SM is great dmg+it has pet and baod (which is nice) while BD got interrupts and twf, a powerful ra indeed. I think either of those 4 classes can fill the last 2 spots after 2 berserkers, however i think optimun wuld be 3 tanks, while 2 zerks only and other 2 slots casters means no bg, while 4 tank grp is a bit unbalanced and the lack of a caster in the grp makes the grp weaker.

I have played all these grps listed above and my choice as idea grp wuld be 3healer 1 shammy 2 zerks 1svg 1bd. I think thats the best setup in mid atm.

 

[Coldbeard]

Interesting to see that most run tank heavy grps, not what I thought was the situation.

 

[PonZaC]

Bard
bl - bm
bl - bm
Caster
Druid
Druid
Warden
Hero/champ

 

[Flimgoblin]

current HG ubergroup (tm):

e/s cleric
r/s cleric
s/b cabalist
sight necro
earth theurg
infiltrator

don't bother filling the last two spots

Need more smite club:
6 smite clerics
47 spirit cab
mincer

 

[Bhalage]

aod gg was:

mindsorc
bodysorc
theurg
friar
reaver
cleric
cleric
+1 dmgdealer caba or firewizi sometimes merc

 

[Chronictank]

Healer
Healer
Healer
Shaman
BL BD - twf
BL Zerk
Dark Sm
Doesnt matter hugely

 

[Stallion]

I'll start myself by posting my own views on hib groups, as we all know a group has to be well balanced, both able to handle larger numbers when casters are prefered in group aswell as hard mid/alb groups.

Bard ML10 Sojo
Druid 20 nat, 39 nurt, 31 reg Perfector
Druid 40 reg, 36 nat. ML9 Convoker
Warden ML8 BG
Blademaster ML10 Banelord
Blademaster ML10 Banelord
Mentalist / Champion ( Warlord / Banelord ) (could be changed for eld/hero aswell)
Enchanter Convoker

 

[lokkedue]

Nat/reg Druid
Nurt/reg Druid
Bard
Warden
Enchanter
Light Menta
BG Hero
Banelord BM

 

[Stallion]

well for Mid atleast i like

M/P Healer
M/P Healer
M/A Healer
Shammy
BL Zerk
BL Zerk
Svg/Thane
SM/BD

i think 2 bl zerks in group is very powerful for midgard and after that there are alot of things that can work in a grp. static tempest on a thane is great, while they also have slam and bodygaurd which makes them alot nicer. Savage is great assist tank and svg assisting with zerks is very powerful, additionally they have bodygaurd which works great alongside a tank train, as alot of fights end up with enemy tanks going for ur light tanks.

SM is great dmg+it has pet and baod (which is nice) while BD got interrupts and twf, a powerful ra indeed. I think either of those 4 classes can fill the last 2 spots after 2 berserkers, however i think optimun wuld be 3 tanks, while 2 zerks only and other 2 slots casters means no bg, while 4 tank grp is a bit unbalanced and the lack of a caster in the grp makes the grp weaker.

I have played all these grps listed above and my choice as idea grp wuld be 3healer 1 shammy 2 zerks 1svg 1bd. I think thats the best setup in mid atm.

This is so true, but SM had perma BG with its fully buffed pet anyway

 

[Puppet]

Now that we're far into NF, people have gained ranks and the new Realm Abilitty system is well known, aswell as the new class specific Realm Abilities. What setups do you prefere and why? Keep guildnames, playernames, groupnames out of this thread to avoid "insults" and flames. Thanks!

Scout
scout
scout
scout
mincer
DI3 cleric
inf (need ML10 Spymaster)
inf

 

[Stallion]

Nat/reg Druid
Nurt/reg Druid
Bard
Warden
Enchanter
Light Menta
BG Hero
Banelord BM

This setup would pretty much suck as BM + Hero wouldnt be suffecient to do damage while casters were interrupted. Especially vs mid groups. with 2x zerk + bd all banelord along with twf. A singel banelord tank can basicly hold that group useless for a good 30+ secs if his BL abilities are used well.

 

[Huntingtons]

in mid/hib it's very important, the way i see it anyway, that the grp has 2 melee banelords, 1-2 casters (depending on grp setup) so you have both magic and melee dmg + interupts. then most setups will work.

alb can do with mostly casters, or with 1 merc. In case they do bomb squads it's another story xD

 

[Vodkafairy]

well, thing with light tanks atm is charge + banelord. very heavy ae interrupts and sos you can't do fuck all about, absolutely nothing

mages are ridiculessly easy to interrupt and in the fg vs fg scene, you don't want potential dmg output to go to waste. a well played eld is probably the best utility mage in this game, and most of their spells can be casted before mass interrupts start (nearsight, debuffs) and disease can be quickcasted at the right time

chanter has dps debuff and pet, but while interrupted or buffsheared, they can't do shit. same goes for menta, but they still have ST and demez which is useful at times. also option to charm pets midfight in the area. tanks get their full dmg potential, full array of insta interrupts, with only downside being CC which is easily avoided atm

tanks > mages in fgvsfg now. also i think a tankgroup is better for farming zergs.. sure, mages kill fast, but again a proper eld will cripple a zerg by ns'ing all mages, combined with several banelords you will outlast them also. then take into account how many stealtheradds you will get, hi 1k dmg critshot, hi instastun fags, hi pa-cd's, again tanks are > mages here

in theory im convinced support + tanks + light eld is > all for hibs, but in reality there is very few good players left on.. well every class

its a struggle to get a group of people you can trust to do their job, hence people get tired and more quit, hib rvr has been going downhill slowly ever since toa release.

hm read post again and it sounded a bit too negative towards chanters, in an opted fg where you can trust everyone to do their job, chanters should be able to do really well. but in an average group when you don't have upper hand with interrupts, rather get another tank. but then again there's hardly any good tanks left either

solo/duo 4tw

 

[Vodkafairy]

hmm would like to add i loved the "setup" we had on gorre

cleric
cleric
sorc
sorc/wiz
theurg (sometimes)
matter caba for ns spam
wiz
wiz

changed every day kinda, but we did have our moments

 

[Ego]

cleric
cleric
friar
sorc
theurg
bl merc
bl merc
spiritcaba/mincer with a clue

What does a friar do?

 

[Kelio]

I like this setup:

cleric
cleric
sorc
sorc
cabby
theurg
bg pally
merc


but then again, with hib/mid stun, insta stun insta mezz root spamming etc etc an alb caster group will die a horrible death.

ohoh, and try killing a mid group that has 3 healers, each of them having purge 2 DI2 and FZ

hmm after a little thinking i think im best of with this group setup.

scout :touch:

 

[Kelio]

What does a friar do?

resists, bodyguard , extra healing, wtfpawnage styles? :touch:

 

[Stallion]

well, thing with light tanks atm is charge + banelord. very heavy ae interrupts and sos you can't do fuck all about, absolutely nothing

mages are ridiculessly easy to interrupt and in the fg vs fg scene, you don't want potential dmg output to go to waste. a well played eld is probably the best utility mage in this game, and most of their spells can be casted before mass interrupts start (nearsight, debuffs) and disease can be quickcasted at the right time

chanter has dps debuff and pet, but while interrupted or buffsheared, they can't do shit. same goes for menta, but they still have ST and demez which is useful at times. also option to charm pets midfight in the area. tanks get their full dmg potential, full array of insta interrupts, with only downside being CC which is easily avoided atm

tanks > mages in fgvsfg now. also i think a tankgroup is better for farming zergs.. sure, mages kill fast, but again a proper eld will cripple a zerg by ns'ing all mages, combined with several banelords you will outlast them also. then take into account how many stealtheradds you will get, hi 1k dmg critshot, hi instastun fags, hi pa-cd's, again tanks are > mages here

in theory im convinced support + tanks + light eld is > all for hibs, but in reality there is very few good players left on.. well every class

its a struggle to get a group of people you can trust to do their job, hence people get tired and more quit, hib rvr has been going downhill slowly ever since toa release.

hm read post again and it sounded a bit too negative towards chanters, in an opted fg where you can trust everyone to do their job, chanters should be able to do really well. but in an average group when you don't have upper hand with interrupts, rather get another tank. but then again there's hardly any good tanks left either

solo/duo 4tw

you basicly summed up my toughts.

 

[Vodkafairy]

What does a friar do?

friar is your counter to mages and tanks? proper friar can cripple enemy assisttrain by bodyguarding right target all the time, friar resists cripples mage damage and take a huge strain off clerics, friar has backup heals/rezzes, friar has strong dmg for petkilling where needed

people with only 26% resist make any mage rip you apart completely, surely you didn't like being 2-3 shooted the other day by me? get a friar in group and i can't kill you in time unless your clerics are under heavy interrupt. with 40%+ resists in a group its often a waste of my power to try and kill people with nukes, it only works if their entire support is interrupted. rather use my power on utility and assisting instead

feel free to run without friar though, i really don't mind

 

[Chronictank]

hehe i would get a friar just for the resist buffs

 

[Ego]

It's so lonely when no-one gets your sarcasm

 

[Chronictank]

It's so lonely when no-one gets your sarcasm

i blame this lil guy ->

 

[Veno]

I think alot of different setups work and that having an edge depends atleast as much on the people playing than on what their are playing.

Cleric // 40 enhance 36 rejuv, Perfector ML8+
Cleric // 40(41) rejuv rest enhance, Perfector ML8+
Sorcerer // 44 Mind rest body
Friar // All resists Red(including matter) 15+ rejuv, ML8+ Battlemaster
Reaver // TWF3, ML10 Banelord
Merc // ML10 Banelord
Cabalist // Split spec for 30% debuff, desease and decent ns
Theurgist // Pets+air spec nuke

Is currently my favorite. Sucky ass paladin end chant..... *grumbles*
End buff for friars!!!!

 

[Bracken]

cleric
cleric
friar
sorc
theurg
bl merc
bl merc
spiritcaba/mincer with a clue

1 demezzer is gonna hurt, so need mincer or 2 x sorc group. I'd also take a pally/arms in the friar spot for defence, (arms with sob 2 or 3 takes 15-25% off all damage at start of fight) but then I'm biased ofc

 

[Bloodclot]

M/P healer
M/P healer
Aug/mend healer (all 3 healers with DI 1-3)
BLzerk (charge3)
DarkSM (moc3)
BL bonedancer (twf3)
RM
Shaman

thats what our guild is running.

Vodka is right, you need both resist classes (shaman and aughealer for midgard). yesterday our auger couldn't play and we played with extra zerk instead. Damage was fine and ripped appart casters quick. but if we didn't pay attention and got jumped. the theurgs ripped our support to shit in 2-3 nukes.

 

[Bloodclot]

1 demezzer is gonna hurt, so need mincer or 2 x sorc caster group. I'd also take a pally/arms in the friar spot for defence, (arms with sob 2 or 3 takes 15-25% off all damage at start of fight) but then I'm biased ofc

no cold resists? get a friar in that group (ST3). without cold resist, you get 2-3 shotted when you fight midgroups with dark SM's and RM's like we do.

 

[Eva]

Druid
Druid
Warden
Bard
Bm
Bm/Champ
Eld/light menta
Chanter

Been running with that on avalon mostly, cept the light menta which we don't have. Would be fun to try though, extra demezz, heals and good nukes he can assist chanter with. I've was light at rr4 but respecced at rr5 for moc3 and pbae. But it's different on avalon since you're often fight more enemies than yourself. In fg vs fg light is very, very good which is also one reason I feel like respeccing back sometimes.