Moral Dilemma

Marc

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So as you all know, im involved in a war. It started when this corp emoragequit our alliance, because our alliance of 95% industrial pilots, didnt really help them in the war that THEY brought to the alliance. They then sent an evemail slagging us all off. They also took 750misk from the alliance to pay some mercs, didnt get the mercs and didnt pay every corp back. So I have my reasons for the wardec.

The war has been quite friendly, in that I have had banter with their corp but over the past few days they have been giving me grief and smack talking. Then they podded my corp mate. I have never podded any of theirs. Just to take the piss even more, they convod me and asked did i want to buy some implants. In a moment of emorage, I told my friend who has a merc corp and who has been begging me to let him loose on them, that he has the ok to wardec them. So hes has wardecced them and promised me he will annihilate their corp, which I know he will, given the resources he has available.

The CEO of the war decced corp is begging me to end the war and now I feel guilty. I wouldnt like it if it was the other way around, but I feel they crossed the line.

What should I do?
 

Punishment

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So as you all know, im involved in a war. It started when this corp emoragequit our alliance, because our alliance of 95% industrial pilots, didnt really help them in the war that THEY brought to the alliance. They then sent an evemail slagging us all off. They also took 750misk from the alliance to pay some mercs, didnt get the mercs and didnt pay every corp back. So I have my reasons for the wardec.

The war has been quite friendly, in that I have had banter with their corp but over the past few days they have been giving me grief and smack talking. Then they podded my corp mate. I have never podded any of theirs. Just to take the piss even more, they convod me and asked did i want to buy some implants. In a moment of emorage, I told my friend who has a merc corp and who has been begging me to let him loose on them, that he has the ok to wardec them. So hes has wardecced them and promised me he will annihilate their corp, which I know he will, given the resources he has available.

The CEO of the war decced corp is begging me to end the war and now I feel guilty. I wouldnt like it if it was the other way around, but I feel they crossed the line.

What should I do?

Continue the war , make your actions the problems of the people originally creating the problem tbh , a bad egg will always be found out and purged :D

There is a reason you can shoot corp mates ya know ;)
 

LordjOX

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Continue the war or get monetary compensation to stop the war. Whatever you think is worth more to you. Don't end the war just because you want to be "nice", they don't care about you.

Imo you should ask for compensation in ISK for what you have lost- don't get greedy or unreasonable. You'll have to guesstimate how much they would be willing to pay- also remember your buddies in the merc corp.

But in the end- just settle for what you think would be the most luls :)
 

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Don't forget when negotiating a cease-fire price to factor in that your corp-mate was using his high grade slave set clone when they podded him...

Keep up the good work :)
 

Ctuchik

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So as you all know, im involved in a war. It started when this corp emoragequit our alliance, because our alliance of 95% industrial pilots, didnt really help them in the war that THEY brought to the alliance. They then sent an evemail slagging us all off. They also took 750misk from the alliance to pay some mercs, didnt get the mercs and didnt pay every corp back. So I have my reasons for the wardec.

The war has been quite friendly, in that I have had banter with their corp but over the past few days they have been giving me grief and smack talking. Then they podded my corp mate. I have never podded any of theirs. Just to take the piss even more, they convod me and asked did i want to buy some implants. In a moment of emorage, I told my friend who has a merc corp and who has been begging me to let him loose on them, that he has the ok to wardec them. So hes has wardecced them and promised me he will annihilate their corp, which I know he will, given the resources he has available.

The CEO of the war decced corp is begging me to end the war and now I feel guilty. I wouldnt like it if it was the other way around, but I feel they crossed the line.

What should I do?

just remind them what they have done and then stop accepting the convo requests.
 

`mongoose

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I was on holiday and have just seen this :)

1. use locator agents to find out where the people in that corp are and pass the intel onto your merc friend.

2. Continue the war until the corp has disbanded.

3. Then add all of the people who instigated the alliance theft to friends and every time you see them log on check what corp they're in. Go to 1.

The corp you're feeling all mushy about would grief the ever loving shit out of you if they could. Don't show them any mercy. If you are to end the war vs them I would demand at least 250m as compensation for lost assets and the alliance theft.

D
 

Sharkith

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Any updates? Please keep them coming - I love the stories eve generates its what is good about the game.

Moongoose - had no idea you were in AAA.
 

`mongoose

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Yeah tri was great for 2 months or so then all the wheels came off again :)

Manny obviously heard on the grapevine that tri wasn't working out and spoke to Dan giving us an option we didn't expect - we came scuttling back.

The provi campaign is dull but hopefully we'll be getting some action shortly

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Marc

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Any updates? Please keep them coming - I love the stories eve generates its what is good about the game.

Moongoose - had no idea you were in AAA.

It all went pearshaped.

I asked the CEO, to pay me 600misk (I upped the amount because their corp carried on the smack talking). He said he would ok it with the other CEO and pay me the money. SWEET! However, my mate in the merc corp had already sent the wardec to vote and ended up wardeccing them anyway for the lulz. SO now I have no money and my mate is abolutely raping them at the moment.

Oh well!
 

`mongoose

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It all went pearshaped.

I asked the CEO, to pay me 600misk (I upped the amount because their corp carried on the smack talking). He said he would ok it with the other CEO and pay me the money. SWEET! However, my mate in the merc corp had already sent the wardec to vote and ended up wardeccing them anyway for the lulz. SO now I have no money and my mate is abolutely raping them at the moment.

Oh well!

ahahahahahahahha

At least they're getting their just deserts.

Tbh mate they probably wouldn't have given you the isk - they'd probably have just weaseled about it until they thought they were safe and then blown you off.

The best thing about EVE are the consequences. You should sit back and watch your merc friends blow their stuffs up :)

M
 

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Tbh, when a corp only see´s value in warring a minor corp-alliance then they are not a great corp.

Good corps hold alliances and contacts strong and make sure when they do attack or war an other alliance or corp that they do so tactfully.

In orc words, dem corpz muzt be deztroyed!!!!!! waaagah


(i honestly think there´s no loss for u getting some payback in this one)
 

`mongoose

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Real isk is in war deccing the big alliances and camping trade hubs :D

Nope :)

Real isk is this.

Buy 1 tempest (or apoc) fit 6 (or 7) of the 1mill isk named tech1 guns.

Buy 3 sensor boosters, one cargo scanner , one ship scanner

fit 6 x cheapest named gyrostabs in the lows.

Sit 30km from undock with a neutral alt on the undock in a hauler.

scan every tech1 industrial that undocks. Anything with very little tank or no tank and expensive loots is a possible target.

Have one round of Republic Fleet EMP or Phased Plasma in your guns.

you will make billions. A pilot in my corp has made enough isk to buy a mothership (13billion +) plus fit (anouther 5billion) plus pilot (12 billion) in just under 2 months in Jita.



The total cost of the above ship is around 85-95 million btw. With PLatinum insurance (31mill) you're paying between 115 mill to 125mill per gank, of which you recieve 103mill back in insurance.

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There's just three. It's shocking what people chuck into basic rigged, minimally tanked tech1 haulers and pootle off accross empire with.

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LordjOX

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I can guarrantee you that you'll be fucking lucky to scoop any loot at Jita undock. There are people camping there 23/7 that only make ISK from taking other suicide gankers loot
 

`mongoose

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I can guarrantee you that you'll be fucking lucky to scoop any loot at Jita undock. There are people camping there 23/7 that only make ISK from taking other suicide gankers loot

Only lucky if you don't have your own alt there. Bear in mind that you know what target you're going for so your alt should be right next to them when you activate guns

Than right click open, ctrl + a, drag


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This is my Jita Supermarket Theory. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If nobody can leave Jita with a cargohold full of stuff (because of the gankage) then Jita becomes a supermarket, where everything goes in and is stacked high so it can be sold cheaply and individually to buyers but not sold wholesale.
 

Marc

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This is my Jita Supermarket Theory. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If nobody can leave Jita with a cargohold full of stuff (because of the gankage) then Jita becomes a supermarket, where everything goes in and is stacked high so it can be sold cheaply and individually to buyers but not sold wholesale.

No you can leave Jita. Its just the tech 1 freighters that have trouble. ANy of the tech 2 freighters like an Obelisk will have nps getting out
 

Ctuchik

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No you can leave Jita. Its just the tech 1 freighters that have trouble. ANy of the tech 2 freighters like an Obelisk will have nps getting out

depends how many suicide gankers there are really :)


if lets say 400 ppl decided to camp the station nothing would get past :)



now thats an idea....
 

LordjOX

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Suicide ganking freighters in high-highsec systems like Jita is usually not worth it. Better stalk it and pop them in some lower secstatus system, like madimilire. Basically concord will arrive in grid and just instapop and jam everything. In 0.5sec you need like 20+ high alpha BS (such as pest) being able to 2-volley a freighter

Need alot more in higher sec systems due to faster concord response times (is why they nerfed suicide ganking really, used to be alot easier before)

But tech 1 industrials are fair game and easy. Tech 2 freighters are jump freighters ;p
 

`mongoose

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depends how many suicide gankers there are really :)


if lets say 400 ppl decided to camp the station nothing would get past :)



now thats an idea....
alot of people who know about the whole jita station thing use the station directly inline with 4-4. you can insta warp to it from undock - even in a tech1 indie.

M
 

Punishment

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alot of people who know about the whole jita station thing use the station directly inline with 4-4. you can insta warp to it from undock - even in a tech1 indie.

M

Also dont undock from tama alone in a carrier , undocked my 1.5bn thanny afew nights ago and instantly got flung 4km from station but inertia and got a nyx hotdropped on me by a fleet of 30+ bs i was tanking fine , ive never seen a properly tanked thannt drop so fast :(
 

Ctuchik

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seem to remember there being a can that you cant scan past tho?

if so, wouldn't it be really fun to load some veldspar into them in some shit hauler with minimal tank and hope that they suicide gank you? :)

would be so much fun to see them lose ships for fuck all... :)
 

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