ML9!!!!! Theusday 26th of July

[vavires]

Lo ppl,

I think many many ppl have waited for this ml.
So its time to just do it.
I've humbly asked the assistance of mighty Ovron for this ml9 Raid.

U need 0 presteps. U do need ml8 ACTIVE ability to be able to enter dungeon.

We start at 19.30CET. Be on time please. We meet in aerus.

Greets Vavi

 

[Gaino]

i deffo b there with my warr thx vav

 

[Granville]

theusday = tuesday?

 

[pjuppe]

\o/ just got the last mlxp on my skald today as well =D

 

[Bag]

At last, I have been waiting for this

 

[Nausilus^^]

No offense mate, but reading topic really confused me.

The day "theusday" does not exist.

There are:
"Thursday" and
"Tuesday"

I know you did post a date as well, but the way you spelled it, it could still go both ways and you just got the date wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I think that it's nice you do raids, but please be clear when posting details.. that's all I wanted to say..

/Nausilus

Oh and I'll be there with savvy

 

[vavires]

No offense mate, but reading topic really confused me.

The day "theusday" does not exist.

There are:
"Thursday" and
"Tuesday"

I know you did post a date as well, but the way you spelled it, it could still go both ways and you just got the date wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I think that it's nice you do raids, but please be clear when posting details.. that's all I wanted to say..

/Nausilus

Oh and I'll be there with savvy

Im sorry, I think for Dutch ppl a TH fault can be easely made. There is tho still a diff between theusday and thursday.

But it is Tuesday the 26th

Just c that i got the E u mixed up to

well sorry for it naus :=).

So it is Tommorow the 26th

greets Vav

 

[Nausilus^^]

Well, it's an honest mistake, I think I'm just overreacting because it's happened to me before with an important raid.. cheers

 

[Gustav]

would come but theres the regular sash and charm raids that evening

 

[Maddude]

Shiat i think ill be there xD

 

[Cozak]

Shiat i think ill be there xD

Maddude wont be there, he will be out Kalasering with us, sorry for the inconveinience(sp?)

 

[Zedenz]

Which rare item will get accidently destroyed on this raid?

 

[Belomar]

Which rare item will get accidently destroyed on this raid?

He shoots he scores!

 

[Gaino]

Which rare item will get accidently destroyed on this raid?

imo all ppl makes mistakes so ok he destroyed it by ol habit...
its like when u salvageing and by routine salvage ur hammer u using and later goes WTF ?! so drop that issue plz...

 

[Zedenz]

Its happened twice now...

 

[Belomar]

A horrible suspicion arises... One best left unvoiced!

 

[Gaino]

Its happened twice now...

and ?

 

[vavires]

Its happened twice now...

It wont happen again dont worry, from now on till furthe rnotice i stop the raid hosting, the respect i get from ppl to host them are BELOW 0.
Maybe U can host the raids. In contradiction to u maybe, i got a life. A job a wife and a household to take care of. I DONT GOT A LIST OF ALL THE RARE ITEMS IN MY POCKET. so if ure mad because i deleted the item, then go screw ureself. I did the trouble to try convincing the DEV to restore it, but he couldnt.

Im tired to c all this greedy sons of bitches. Take an example of ppl like Ulas, Thrung, Krago, to name some. ull get farther in life an dat least more respect.

Vav!

 

[vavires]

A horrible suspicion arises... One best left unvoiced!

Yea who knows what i already have deleted in the past..
Dont forget that arbiter scroll i deleted on previous ml2 raid, u need to refresh ppl their memory bout that to!!

 

[Gaino]

Im tired to c all this greedy sons of bitches. Take an example of ppl like Ulas, Thrung, Krago, to name some. ull get farther in life an dat least more respect.

just to clarify by nameing those... meaning they go farm for friends/guildis on their own playtime to make em happy and want nothing in return... lub u thrung that mt3 rox !!

 

[Anarch]

It wont happen again dont worry, from now on till furthe rnotice i stop the raid hosting, the respect i get from ppl to host them are BELOW 0.
Maybe U can host the raids. In contradiction to u maybe, i got a life. A job a wife and a household to take care of. I DONT GOT A LIST OF ALL THE RARE ITEMS IN MY POCKET. so if ure mad because i deleted the item, then go screw ureself. I did the trouble to try convincing the DEV to restore it, but he couldnt.

Im tired to c all this greedy sons of bitches. Take an example of ppl like Ulas, Thrung, Krago, to name some. ull get farther in life an dat least more respect.

Vav!

NO vavi dont let them get to you :C
Thanks for all raids been a blast youve done more for this realm then many other so called ""Raid leaders""Vavires is by far the best raid leader ive had and ive played since beta.../respect thanks once again.

And for some of you other cocksuckers that moans about most things, do summit youre self instead of acting like a /&(¤¤#%&/)

 

[charmangle]

Can only agree with Anarch here...

Well can only agree with Anarch here...basically Vavi has done more to help the realm than any one else so far. And as far as I have seen he has only gotten alot of crap for it.

He makes misstakes...so what...he takes the initiative to host the raids.

The realm needs more people like Vavires and not less. Its really time that we take a good look at how we treat those that put in the time and effort and organize raids for us. We need to wake up and smell the java and understand that its not just a matter of reading visionofsages, its takes dedication and hard work. And that desevers at the very least gratitude and in my opinion more.

So basically a plea to the whole realm. Treat your raidleaders better or well all find ourselves without any. :/

At the moment Id say there are alot of people who owe vavi an appology...maybe there is a good place to start...just a thought!

/Charmangle

 

[Deleted member 4013]

Here is my $0.02 worth,

I've been in many raids hosted by vavires. There have been some problems, but in overall I've liked em.

Hate to see vavires isn't hosting raids in future.

But I still don't get it why didn't postpone the raid for one hour? there were bluesky's weekly raids, and ppl wen't to those. We would have joined you to your ml9 after Jascina's sash raid, but you had to cancel the ml9 raid.

Now we got wiped on ml9 due one step, and we retry the ml. I'm sorry - it seems you were angry because of Ovron wasn't able to participiate for his reasons. IRL > online games ofc. We should have merged. Now it turned to a mess. By merging I mean that u had joined with gustavson to ml9 and we who were in bluesky's raid would continue to ml9.

That been said, start hosting ur raids as u scheduled to do this week mate

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

Zedenz... belomar....


you both must be perfect or something....

now shoo, off you go, and go while looking at your perfect self in the mirror..

 

[Gaino]

At the moment Id say there are alot of people who owe vavi an appology...maybe there is a good place to start...just a thought!

couldnt have said it bette mysef charmangel ppl nowdays treat ppl like crap and in return we loose mor eraid leading ppl than we gain em meaning ml etc gets abit harder to do then u hear ppl asking why not this etc well DUH ! u make sure ppl don want 2 host such things

my 2 bucks

 

[vaadeskud]

If ppl. are so unhappy whit Vaviris raid. why do i see them on so many of his raid
but yes lets get the Must Active ML Raide Leder to stop making raid.

I hope to join your raid again Vaviri

 

[vavires]

Here is my $0.02 worth,

I've been in many raids hosted by vavires. There have been some problems, but in overall I've liked em.

Hate to see vavires isn't hosting raids in future.

But I still don't get it why didn't postpone the raid for one hour? there were bluesky's weekly raids, and ppl wen't to those. We would have joined you to your ml9 after Jascina's sash raid, but you had to cancel the ml9 raid.

Now we got wiped on ml9 due one step, and we retry the ml. I'm sorry - it seems you were angry because of Ovron wasn't able to participiate for his reasons. IRL > online games ofc. We should have merged. Now it turned to a mess. By merging I mean that u had joined with gustavson to ml9 and we who were in bluesky's raid would continue to ml9.

That been said, start hosting ur raids as u scheduled to do this week mate

Its not so easy m8.
If i start to organize raids again, ill just show that they can push me around. Im no Slave of the Realm. Im gratefull for Every1 words here, but i all know u or most of u and i didnt expect any other words of u than this.

And about Ovron, Ovron is 1 of my best friends in Daoc. I knew there were problems, and there wasnt a second in my mind that i was mad at him, and he knows that already.

I can also say, due to what has happened, making ml 9 behind our backs while i canceled it (it took u past midnight like i told u), all the complaining ect... ovron has decided not to run ml10 Raids anymore.

I can only say atm, midgard has 2 RL's less. I can also add, that without a doubt i organised the most raids in the realm the last months, and this is what i've gotten for it.

Have a nice day all,
Greets Vavi

 

[Tesla Monkor]

I can also say, due to what has happened, making ml 9 behind our backs while i canceled it (it took u past midnight like i told u), all the complaining ect... ovron has decided not to run ml10 Raids anymore.

That is completely uncalled for. You decided to run an ML9 while Charm/Sashraid were already planned - that was not the best time to plan it, resulting in only 35ish people showing up. At which point you decided to cancel your raid.

That was not really fair to the people who came to join and help out as it was clear there were people in the other raid interested in ML9 that would join when the raid was over. It was decided by several others that we wanted to do the ML9 anyway, and since you decided to leave, we'd do it without you. Everyone joined the Sash raid, and afterwards everyone who wanted ML9 joined up with Gustavson's raid. An hour into the raid he had to leave, and I took over.

We finished the raid at about 00:30 (Whichw as pretty decent considering the amount of people we had to deal with the Phoenix), and took another hour to lotto all the stuff that dropped. As far as I can tell everyone left with full ML9-credit and one or more drops.

Don't blame others when they pick up where you stopped. People are thankful for the things you've organised, and they appreciate it, but that's it. Don't expect more than that. Someone else will step up and take over - the world will not end because you decide to step down as raidleader.

It is a shame that you decide to do it. In all honesty you lead decent raids, but these hissy-fits you throw really aren't going to make people respect you.

Edit: typoes

 

[vavires]

That is completely uncalled for. You decided to run an ML9 while Charm/Sashraid were already planned - that was no a good idea, and only 35ish people showed up, at which point you decided to cancel your raid.

That alone was not really fair to the people who came to join and help out. At that point it was decided by several others that we wanted to do the ML9 anyway, and since you decided to leave, we'd do it without you. Everyone joined the Sash raid, and afterwards everyone who wanted ML9 joined up with Gustavson's raid. An hour into the raid he had to leave, and I took over.

We finished the raid at about 00:30, and took another hour to lotto all the stuff that dropped. As far as I can tell everyone left with full ML9-credit and one or more drops.

Don't blame others when they pick up where you stopped. People are thankful for the things you've organised, and they appreciate it, but that's it. Don't expect more than that. Someone else will step up and take over - the world will not end because you decide to step down as raidleader.

It is a shame that you decide to do it. In all honesty you lead decent raids, but these hissy-fits you throw really aren't going to make people respect you.

I didnt wanne run it cause i knew it was gone be past midnight, like ive heard and lik eu have said u were done with everything at 01.30. I myself didnt wanne host it. And yes since Ovron and i did our homework to lead it, and I decide it then to cancel it, those tooking over were just disrespectfull, I didnt wanne do it, first cause ovron neede dml9 to, and since HE was gone organize it it was only fair to do so imo. Besides.. It took monts before a ml9 got planned, so why would it have been sush a problem to wait a few more days. And there are a lot of so called weekly raids, there is not nough time that way, there are already 3 regular times for raids. And imo, a sash/charm raid is done twice a week, every week and that ml9 was done for the first time in months. ppl just want want want...

And i hope ure right Tesla, Because midgard has thrown away a lot of good raid leaders so far, dont forget why ulas stopped Leading raids. Hes unreplaceble!

greets Vav.

 

[Legaen]

Tiredness = bad = I can't read right so ignore last post if u read it

Keep up the MLs Vav, I'm gonna need them soon!