ML7 raid thursday the 9th of feb

Chap

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For those who missed the ml7-raid last sunday im gonna try host one this Thrusday

Info:
Starting 19:00 cet in Volcanus-p. BG will be up 30 mins before on Issoz-p. Presteps are 1-6.
Hope to see you there.

Sticky plz
 

Gungo

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See ya there, with a couple of chars, thx for raid in advance, :clap: :clap:
 

Azathrim

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He's not really rude. You take your payment for leading the raids, so it's not really like he's trying to step in on your volounteer work. <shrug>
 

vavires

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Azathrim said:
He's not really rude. You take your payment for leading the raids, so it's not really like he's trying to step in on your volounteer work. <shrug>

not the point. and i use a mod, not like i preclaim he most expensive things like others do.
It has been discussed in a few threads before, And it doesn help the community either to doublepost raids on same day/hour.
 

Vell

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I'm sorry, I don't understand why Chap running ML7 for those who missed it is rude. And posting a link to your ML6 raid didn't help me understand. Am I missing something?
 

old.Whoodoo

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Vell said:
I'm sorry, I don't understand why Chap running ML7 for those who missed it is rude. And posting a link to your ML6 raid didn't help me understand. Am I missing something?
Theres a kind of unspoken rule on here that peeps check first for other raids going on at the same time, normally this is between Bluesky, Vavries and Chronicgassyarse. This was there are no contests for people, as often a zerg can do MLs much faster than 3-4fg of strugglers.
 

Vell

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Oh, sorry, I see now. I didn't realise they were on the same day. Silly me :)
 

Zardoz

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I have chars that need both so i'd appreciate them being seperated
 

Chap

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Seems like it doesnt fit some ppl that I'm hosting it at this particular date. It is the only day I can as I have other plans for the weekend.
Therefore it's cancelled and I prolly wont be hosting it in the near future. Sorry for being rude by trying to host a raid. Wont happen again.
 

Vell

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I suggest you run the raid as planned Chap.

[sarcasm]Woebetide that either raid may not get enough people to pointlessly zerg over all the mobs! You mean people may actually have to use some skill to win?! Oh my god, that's just not possible! How rude of you to force the situation on us![/sarcasm]

Yeah, so anyway, run your raid as planned, is my opinion.
 

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Yeah go for it, midgard primetime as a population of around 400 people, sure each raid can muster at least 50 chars each thats enough for a raid easily.

so imo go ahead with the raid.
 

vavires

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Chap said:
Seems like it doesnt fit some ppl that I'm hosting it at this particular date. It is the only day I can as I have other plans for the weekend.
Therefore it's cancelled and I prolly wont be hosting it in the near future. Sorry for being rude by trying to host a raid. Wont happen again.

Its not bout hosting raids or not, its about hosting raids on same timeframes as other do. Like Zardoz there are many ppl who will feel the need for joining both ml6 and 7.
Also not sure if ull get enough ppl anyway to do it since ml7 was last Sunday and Ml6 will be more needed.
 

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Look m8, you have posted raids like 3 weeks before they happen and act like you have monopoly on the days you've picked (which leaves one day/week for others to host raids). This is the only day that suits me and hopefully both raids will be held and carried out.
We have 2 servers to chose from so I'll keep the ml7 running but we will do it on EXCAL. So all who want to join ml7 raid meet up at volcanus-e at 18:50 and we move out at 19:00.
So the raid will go as planned and bg will be up 30 mins before on issoz-p in volcanus-e.
<Chap> btw
 

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Megarevs said:
Look m8, you have posted raids like 3 weeks before they happen and act like you have monopoly on the days you've picked (which leaves one day/week for others to host raids). This is the only day that suits me and hopefully both raids will be held and carried out.
We have 2 servers to chose from so I'll keep the ml7 running but we will do it on EXCAL. So all who want to join ml7 raid meet up at volcanus-e at 18:50 and we move out at 19:00.
So the raid will go as planned and bg will be up 30 mins before on issoz-p in volcanus-e.
<Chap> btw

Couldnt of said it better myself, good show mate :clap: :clap:

see ya later :)
 

vavires

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Megarevs said:
Look m8, you have posted raids like 3 weeks before they happen and act like you have monopoly on the days you've picked (which leaves one day/week for others to host raids). This is the only day that suits me and hopefully both raids will be held and carried out.
We have 2 servers to chose from so I'll keep the ml7 running but we will do it on EXCAL. So all who want to join ml7 raid meet up at volcanus-e at 18:50 and we move out at 19:00.
So the raid will go as planned and bg will be up 30 mins before on issoz-p in volcanus-e.
<Chap> btw

Ure missing the point, its not about me, its about the other ppl who ure obligating to choose a raid.
Also i cant posibly believe that this would be the 1 day out of th ecomming weeks that u have 2h free time.
 

Vell

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I dont see how being able to choose which raid you want to go on is a bad thing. The more raids there are, the better, in my opinion.
 

vavires

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Vell said:
I dont see how being able to choose which raid you want to go on is a bad thing. The more raids there are, the better, in my opinion.

not on same slot.
 

Chap

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vavires said:
Ure missing the point, its not about me, its about the other ppl who ure obligating to choose a raid.
Also i cant posibly believe that this would be the 1 day out of th ecomming weeks that u have 2h free time.
I dont really care what you do or do not believe. It happens to be the truth as i have holiday the next week. It is about you. Very much indeed. If people wanna get ml7 then they attend my raid and if they want ml6 they attend yours. You just did ml7 so you should have your base population for your raid but im still unsure if we will be able to do it. We have the population of 2 servers so this shouldnt be a problem nor should it be taken so serious.
But ofc if you cant complete the raid because of population you can happily flame me etc.
 

vavires

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Chap said:
I dont really care what you do or do not believe. It happens to be the truth as i have holiday the next week. It is about you. Very much indeed. If people wanna get ml7 then they attend my raid and if they want ml6 they attend yours. You just did ml7 so you should have your base population for your raid but im still unsure if we will be able to do it. We have the population of 2 servers so this shouldnt be a problem nor should it be taken so serious.
But ofc if you cant complete the raid because of population you can happily flame me etc.

Again its not bout me, i know ill have enough ppl for ml6. Its about th eppl who will need both 6 and 7. Its been spoken of before when ppl Crossed other raids. Ppl wanted to join x and y but in the end they had to chose. When in other casses raid had to be canceled. Im refering now to the jacina and erinys and ml10 raids who had to be moved canceled deu to other ppl hosting raids on the same time. I dont need ml7 But if i was in a persons shoes who did needed 6 and 7 i would be wondering why they are hosting it on the same day/hour.
Ill leave it with this i have said it 3 times now.

But if i have to be blunt,

- The problem is that it's the only day that suits me, and I really wanna get ml7 done. <- this is about u wanting ml7 done so Crossing other raids, instead of waiting till another day/hour where there is a slot free.
 

Vell

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Ok, lets just say that I want ML6 and ML7.

Example 1: Vav runs ML6 tonight. There is no ML7 raid. There is no mention of a next ML7 raid anywhere. I don't have a choice so I join Vav's ML6 raid.

Example 2: Vav runs ML6 and Chap runs ML7. Because they are run at the same time, I have to choose between doing ML6 or ML7. There is no mention of the next ML6 or ML7 raids at all. This is not an ideal situation, but it does mean that I can have the choice between whether I want to do ML6 or ML7.

Either way, I'll have to wait for the next raid to be done before I can go further with my MLs. The second way, I just get a choice. So again, I don't see why having a choice is bad. Yes, it would be better if they were on different days, but quite rightly neither of you wish to re-arrange your real lives to accommodate that.
 

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Vav, Bluesky and Chronic all spend a lot of time and effort on organising raids for the realm, not for individuals, the raids are regular, posted with lots of time to organise, and so others can see when a potential might conflict.

I am very certain that if you spoke to Vavaries in time, you could have reached a mutual arrangement, and maybe vav could have done an ML7 raid to help you out, and put back the ML6 raid for another day, ask and ye shall find.
 

Vell

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old.Whoodoo said:
Vav, Bluesky and Chronic all spend a lot of time and effort on organising raids for the realm

Aye - /salute to the three of you. I'm truely grateful to those that run events for the realm. I just don't feel the reaction to this raid being posted was warranted, that's all.
 

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