Mincer template : oppinions wanted

[eleard]

Mincer template : opinions wanted

Is this ok as a mincer template, and what improvments can be made.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 101 Int: 0 Hits: 240
Con: 98 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 63 Cha: 75
Qui: 75 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 18 Crush: 28 (2)
Cold: 31 (5) Matter: 23 Thrust: 27
Heat: 26 Spirit: 24 Slash: 30 (3)

Skills

4 Thrust

11 Stealth

11 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dexterity

40 Hits

25 Strength

22 Constitution

Other Bonuses

5 Spell Range

10 Style Damage

5 Melee Damage

5 Magic Damage

5 Fatigue

2 Melee Combat Speed

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GoV
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 0.0 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage
Effect 8: 5 Magic Damage
Effect 9: 5 Spell Range
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Charisma - 99 Perfect Icy Essence
Gem 2: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 3 Slash - 99 Rough Watery War Sigil
Gem 4: 5 Thrust - 99 Flawed Airy Shielding
Utility: 62.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 68 Hits - 99 Flawless Blood Essence
Gem 2: 10 Strength - 99 Flawed Fiery Essence
Gem 3: 25 Dexterity - 99 Flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 25 Quickness - 99 Flawless Airy Essence
Utility: 57.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 9 Energy - 99 Polished Light Shielding
Gem 2: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 28 Quickness - 99 Perfect Airy Essence
Gem 4: 4 Dexterity - 99 Uncut Vapor Essence
Utility: 56.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Strength - 99 Flawless Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 5 Slash - 99 Flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 25 Charisma - 99 Flawless Icy Essence
Gem 4: 9 Energy - 99 Polished Light Shielding
Utility: 61.33

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 60 Hits - 99 Precious Blood Essence
Gem 2: 9 Matter - 99 Polished Earthen Shielding
Gem 3: 19 Dexterity - 99 Faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 4 Stealth - 99 Flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 65.67

Right Hand
Name: Malice
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 0.0 Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 2: 4 Slash - 99 Flawed Watery War Sigil
Gem 3: 22 Charisma - 99 Precious Icy Essence
Gem 4: 4 Stealth - 99 Flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 69.33

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: acn
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Thrust
Effect 2: 10 Crush
Effect 3: 10 Spirit
Effect 4: 10 Body
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: fas
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 4 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 3: 15 Strength
Effect 4: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Jewel
Name: glittering jewel
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 2: 32 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Spirit
Effect 4: 3 Stealth
Effect 5: 12 Constitution
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 41.00

Belt
Name: RoG
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 9 Spirit
Effect 2: 12 Body
Effect 3: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 7 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Right Ring
Name: Demon Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Slash
Effect 2: 8 Crush
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 6 Heat
Effect 5: 6 Cold
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 68.00

Left Ring
Name: Demon ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Slash
Effect 2: 8 Crush
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 6 Heat
Effect 5: 6 Cold
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 68.00

Right Wrist
Name: thunder
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Heat
Effect 2: 8 Cold
Effect 3: 8 Matter
Effect 4: 18 Strength
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: ehb
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Body
Effect 2: 6 Slash
Effect 3: 6 Cold
Effect 4: 6 Matter
Effect 5: 6 Heat
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Thanks for takeing time to read

 

[Greenfingers]

looks good, nice stats, almost capping everything couldn't be better for a melee mincer - or could it?

I have a different oppinion about how a mincer should/could be played. I think a mincer SHOULD be detected in stealth by a NS/Ranger/SB/Hunter so they would jump you.

*FACT*
You have THE best armor as a stealther.
Highlander Minstrel get +5% Cold resist and have more str/con.
DD's do ~0.45 dmg pr +cha point and ~0.75 dmg pr. +instruments skill.
You have a SUPERB anytime style, stun, mezz, absorb chant - use them!
If you gained ML10 then you either have Forcefull Zephyr (instant win) or Fatigue reduction, 25% melee absorb and 10% fatigue/health/power regen shout.


I would have put some effort in getting the following:
Instruments skill (damage on DD's)
Acuity cap (charisma - damage on DD's)
Con cap
Hits cap
Cap resists (especially melee, body, cold and heat)
11 Slash, low stealth (to be detected from range)

ofc, it all depends on your playstyle and the opponents you meet.

I hope it's okey feedback? *hugs*

 

[Eeben]

looks good, nice stats, almost capping everything couldn't be better for a melee mincer - or could it?

I have a different oppinion about how a mincer should/could be played. I think a mincer SHOULD be detected in stealth by a NS/Ranger/SB/Hunter so they would jump you.

only problem about playing stealth is you dont get mos imo really sucks you dont have a chance to find the others An because they find you 98% of the time they will land pa-cd or any other stunstyle an when i ns get stunstyle in on me im normally dead hunters an rangers not that hard only high rr rangers im haveing problems with..

Back to topic...Very nice template i have to say... You gonna run with battler on back now that you dont got som proc?

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

Mincers suxx in stealth wars :| give MoS for my mincer QQ.
I need to get a way to find enemys since they don't wanna attack me


but if I were u I would prolly fit SoM in the template, or RoD just for the stealthlore

(I never /use2 on my SoM I rather wanna use stealthlore to find the enemys since they don't wanna jump me QQ(again))

 

[Aashild]

Get SoM in there .... to few artis imo .. crox ring is kewl aswell

 

[Brite]

id drop cold and body resists if i where you !

 

[wutae]

its all wrong , total wrong .

1st . minstrel wins via time . on stealthwars at least . you need som .
2nd omg 2 meelee speed ?
3nd croc ring is a good option cause of the extra endu minstrels uses for DDs . and cause they go ooe kinda fast . if u are bored to have endu pots
put a croc ring in template .
4rt dont underestimate phoebus neckie use1 . you can win fights with that .
and u could really use a battler for use2 so u could have a phoebus harp
instead of drum + flute .
5th stats + meelee speed + meelee damage + ap 4 procc is good at mad scalars :>

 

[eleard]

Thanks for the advice guys

remade useing the suggested arti's. Qwick question about PH does the instument stay after i remove the necklace.? Tend to sod about for ages before going RvR so can swap on to cast harp and swap back np's

LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 847.3
Useable Utility: 836.0
TOA Utility: 322.0

Statistics
STR:94/95 CON:98/96 DEX:15/80
QUI:80/80 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:75/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:240/240
Power:0/25
AF:10/50

Resistances
Body: 26
Cold: 27
Heat: 25
Energy: 13
Matter: 21
Spirit: 24+5
Crush: 29+2
Slash: 27+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Stealth: 11
Slash: 11

Bonuses
Spell Range: 5
Spell Damage: 5
Style Damage: 10
Melee Damage: 8
Melee Combat Speed: 10
Fatigue: 5

Chest (GoV):
Imbue: 22.0
18 Strength
15 Dexterity
40 Hits
5 Strength Cap Increase
5 Dexterity Cap Increase
5 Melee Damage
5 Style Damage
5 Spell Damage
5 Spell Range
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 120.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
1 Stealth
68 Hits
28 Quickness
28 Strength
Utility: 59.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
4 Slash
9% Slash
19 Charisma
4 Stealth
Utility: 70.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
4 Slash
9% Matter
9% Energy
7% Heat
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands (mad):
Imbue: 20.0
40 Hits
15 Constitution
15 Quickness
3 Melee Combat Speed
3 Melee Damage
5 Constitution Cap Increase
5 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 50.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
28 Constitution
20 Hits
22 Quickness
25 Charisma
Utility: 55.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Malice):
Imbue: 20.0
15 Strength
15 Constitution
40 Hits
5 Strength Cap Increase
5 Constitution Cap Increase
40 Hits Cap Increase
5 Style Damage
5 Fatigue
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 65.0

Left Hand:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
3 Slash
9% Cold
28 Constitution
16 Charisma
Utility: 62.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Neck (acn):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Thrust
10% Crush
10% Spirit
10% Body
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (SoM <steather>):
Imbue: 20.0
3 Stealth
15 Strength
15 Quickness
5 Melee Combat Speed
10 AF
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0

Jewel (glittering jewel):
Imbue: 22.0
4 Constitution Cap Increase
32 Hits
5% Spirit
3 Stealth
12 Constitution
Utility: 41.0
TOA Utility: 8.0

Belt (rog):
Imbue: 30.0
9% Spirit
12% Body
10 Strength Cap Increase
7 Constitution Cap Increase
Utility: 42.0
TOA Utility: 34.0

Left Ring (croc tears ring):
Imbue: 25.0
4% Heat
4% Cold
4% Energy
4% Matter
4% Body
15 Acuity
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (demon blood):
Imbue: 36.0
8% Slash
8% Crush
6% Thrust
6% Heat
6% Cold
Utility: 68.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (cyclone):
Imbue: 38.0
10% Slash
10% Thrust
11% Crush
2 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 10.0

Right Wrist (thunder):
Imbue: 34.0
8% Heat
8% Cold
8% Matter
18 Strength
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

This any better?

 

[scorge]

if you could fit CB in for the mez/stun feedback would be usefull, as might help you with dealing with instant mez stun, and landing yours.

 

[Phantomby]

May sound like a stupid question but...

I notice in peoples temps they have GOV and list it with BOTH melee style damage AND spell range / damage.

I was under the impression that you chose either a tank style vest which gave melee bonuses or a caster style vest which has the spell bonuses.

Is this just an oversight in the temp makers listings or can you actually obtain both bonuses if you have a class such as a mincer (that would benefit from both)?

Any help or clarity appreciated
Thanks

 

[Arilinn]

May sound like a stupid question but...

I notice in peoples temps they have GOV and list it with BOTH melee style damage AND spell range / damage.

I was under the impression that you chose either a tank style vest which gave melee bonuses or a caster style vest which has the spell bonuses.

Is this just an oversight in the temp makers listings or can you actually obtain both bonuses if you have a class such as a mincer (that would benefit from both)?

Any help or clarity appreciated
Thanks

A mincer/reaver will gain more benefit from gov than a for example: merc.
Since mincer/reavers are on the hybridlist and gain benefit from spellrange and such.