MGS2 and such ...

[xane]

My step-son has a PS2, I only use it for a DVD player tho, but I have seen some of the games he plays. Recently I was watching him play MGS2, I remember him playing the original on the PSX, and I can't help thinking it's such a bothersome stupid game.

Those damn cut-scenes just go on and on, and they are so pithy, and the way it is so totally linear, rather like the FF series (I remember he played FF7 as well), the gameplay seems too "twitchy" like the old days of the Sinclair Spectrum when you had to be "pixel perfect" to make jumps etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking people who play these games, it's not my type of enjoyment however. The linear aspect throws nothing but frustration for me, I might as well play Half-Life or Quake if I wanted "linear" action. After playing PC games like Baldurs Gate, or spending huge amonts of time on MMOGs, the plain linear shoot-em-up just loses appeal and the storyline, especially those awful japanese ones, really grinds my teeth.

So, what is the appeal of games like MGS2 ?

 

[Moving Target]

I think it is a good game, just not great or excellent. GTA3 is a better game imo

 

[Trem]

I enjoyed the first MGS, although the cut scenes did get on me tits, imo Syphon Filter was/is a better game if you like that kind of thing.

 

[xane]

If the cut-scenes are pants, why not play a linear game without them, like Half-Life, or Quake or Tomb Raider ?

IMO, the cut-scenes, and the storyline that accompanies it, in games like MGS and FF are so totally screwy that the game would probably be miles better without it. Half-Life is a good example where the story kind of enhances the game but doesn't interfere, and strangely it is far less linear than MGS/FF.

I see the game as a thinly veiled attempt to make an "interactive movie" into a normal game, and failing.

 

[old.rapture]

MGS2 is like a good book or film, it tells a story. If you approach it with that attitude its alot more appealing. Admitedly, im a big fan of anime, sci-fi and gibson-esque books so i had no problems getting to grips with the storyline itself.


I really enjoyed it, even playing through a 2nd time is fine, as I can now concentrate on the attention to detail Kojima has put into the game.

 

[Custy]

MGS2 is great, it has a nice complex story, it's a shame that it has to be told in hundreds of hours of cutscenes but it's still good. However the chatter between Rose and Raiden is outrageously long. Those bits are the only bits I skip.

 

[Munkey-]

appeal of the MGS series is the story line. first one was absolutley fantastic with twists and stuff. wouldnt rave so much about the second one but still re-playable

 

[Yaka]

Originally posted by Munkey
appeal of the MGS series is the story line. first one was absolutley fantastic with twists and stuff. wouldnt rave so much about the second one but still re-playable

i agree on that note althou i aint thouced this one since finishing it me bruv is doing all the easter egg type jobbehs in it , he luvs it

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

I like using the CD's as cup holders.

 

[]SK[]

The game didnt have as good a story line as the first. Plus on the Making of DVD they said they got some great music composer to make the new tunes. MGS1 was amazing for its music. I would put it at my no1 for game music. FF8 close behind.

 

[Munkey-]

*plays mantis theme on repeat*





aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh

*switches on solidus fight*
duh....duh...duh duh duh duh






Mantis theme anyday! GO GO MGS1!

 

[]SK[]

mantis theme was great, freaky though.

 

[Yaka]

Originally posted by +SA+SerialKilla
The game didnt have as good a story line as the first. Plus on the Making of DVD they said they got some great music composer to make the new tunes. MGS1 was amazing for its music. I would put it at my no1 for game music. FF8 close behind.

yeah mgs2 has a diff composer i think its the same bloke that did The Rock, Armageddon,Perl Harbour and various other yank soldier type flicks

 

[]SK[]

OST was never better than MGS though. Like I said b4 its the best ive heard so far. The music fitted the game in every scene. The sudden 'RING' with a '!' question mark above their head was always good. Like the "Huh. Whos footprints are these?". I used to say that line to my missus all the time. Pretty sad really

 

[Custy]

MGS2 Story???

Why does Snake go against you then seem to come back on your side.

At the moment I have just been electrocuted by that ninga girl and Snake and when i was being held in that starfish position the ninja girl sais over nanocomms to go and get my equipment from Snake in the hanger.

Did i miss something because he said he wasn't on my side a few mins before

*sniff*

 

[Moving Target]

Keep playing He tells you later

 

[Custy]

So he does

Now i'm attacking a bunch of MG rays which is gay. Bosses piss me off.

 

[Moving Target]

What level are you plying on? Normal?

 

[Custy]

can't remember, there are 5 of them overall i think, i know you get more or less depending on your difficulty

 

[Moving Target]

10 on normal if I remember correctly and 3 on very easy.

 

[Skyler]

Played it today, very nice game. I thought it might be gh3y due to control pad, but it plays really nicely, so many little touches that make it so damn good...

My mate is at the part where he is now naked Raiden, after just rescuing the girl. Hes doing the game on Hard, he hasnt completed it before yet either

 

[]SK[]

Done well then, the story line is pretty shite tbh. The amount of easter eggs makes it worth while.

 

[Embattle]

TBH I played MGS2 the first weekend I got it but that was it. I just find I would have to sit down and really get in to it because of the cut scenes and tbh I can't be bothered atm.

 

[Custy]

Tis good.

Completed it now, going through again slowly on Extreme.

 

[Embattle]

I always do a game at normal diff because I never go through them again since the magic has gone