Mercfil Template

[Addlcove]

levelling my toon Chuo atm his final spec is gonna be

33stealth
50thrust
50dw
34envenom (planning on using substitute armor for envenom so don´t need to include that in template)

anyone that has a good one?

 

[Lam]

Here's one I made a while back.
It has +8 envenom so you can use the DF jewel instead of getting another crafted piece of armor.

Config Report

Stats:
Str: 77 Int: 0 Hits: 204
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 77 Cha: 0
Qui: 76 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 27 Energy: 26 Crush: 27
Cold: 26 Matter: 27 Thrust: 27
Heat: 28 Spirit: 26 Slash: 26

Skills:
11 Thrust 8 Envenom
11 Dual Wield 11 Stealth
3 Critical Strike


Focus:



Chest:
Imbue Points: 37,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Thrust - 99% rough Dusty War Sigil
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 99% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 68 Hits - 99% flawless Blood Essence Jewel
Utility: 64,6666641235352

Arms:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Dexterity - 99% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 16 Quickness - 99% polished Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Energy Resist - 99% polished Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Matter Resist - 99% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Utility: 61,3333358764648

Head:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Quickness - 99% faceted Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 10 Dexterity - 99% flawed Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Matter Resist - 99% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 76 Hits - 99% perfect Blood Essence Jewel
Utility: 56,3333358764648

Legs:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Quickness - 99% faceted Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity - 99% faceted Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Thrust Resist - 99% polished Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 61,3333358764648

Hands:
Imbue Points: 37,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99% polished Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Crush Resist - 99% polished Firey Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Matter Resist - 99% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Spirit Resist - 99% polished Vapor Shielding Jewel
Utility: 64,6666717529297

Feet:
Imbue Points: 36,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 7 Spirit Resist - 99% imperfect Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 36 Hits - 99% imperfect Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Envenom - 99% imperfect Dusty Battle Jewel
Utility: 62

Right Hand:
Imbue Points: 37,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Thrust - 99% flawed Dusty War Sigil
Gem 2: 3 Dual Wield - 99% rough Icy War Sigil
Gem 3: 25 Strength - 99% flawless Firey Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Body Resist - 99% polished Dusty Shielding Jewel
Utility: 69,6666717529297

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 37,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Dual Wield - 99% flawed Icy War Sigil
Gem 2: 4 Thrust - 99% flawed Dusty War Sigil
Gem 3: 4 Stealth - 99% flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 22 Strength - 99% precious Firey Essence Jewel
Utility: 74,6666641235352

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Ranged:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Neck:
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 10 Body Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Utility: 80

Cloak:
Name: Ignuixs' Portable Shadow
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 18 Quickness
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 3 Stealth
Utility: 51

Jewel:
Name: Ancient Roman Coin
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 8 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 24 Hits
Utility: 54

Belt:
Name: Scurceol's Belt (inf)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 7 Constitution
Effect 2: 7 Dexterity
Effect 3: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 10 Heat Resist
Utility: 49,3333320617676

Right Ring:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond Ring
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 12 Strength
Effect 2: 12 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 36

Left Ring:
Name: Ring of Shades
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 Envenom
Effect 4: 3 Critical Strike
Utility: 52

Right Wrist:
Name: Bracer of the Stealthy
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Quickness
Effect 2: 4 Stealth
Effect 3: 10 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Body Resist
Utility: 58,6666641235352

Left Wrist:
Name: Roguish Bracer
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Dexterity
Effect 2: 4 Dual Wield
Effect 3: 10 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 8 Crush Resist
Utility: 58,6666641235352

 

[Addlcove]

wauv, thanks

 

[Danya]

Assassin without CS, such gimpness.

 

[Negura]

Originally posted by Danya
Assassin without CS, such gimpness.

Such stupid comments.
And your opinion is important why?


Nice template there, but where do you get this from:

Cloak:
Name: Ignuixs' Portable Shadow

 

[Myddrin]

Its the epic cloak

 

[- Pathfinder -]

Originally posted by Negura
Such stupid comments.

Mercfil is just as sad as shadowzerkers; I'll let you figure out why ^^

And your opinion is important why?

About as valid as yours I'd imagine ^^

Cloak:
Name: Ignuixs' Portable Shadow

I sincerly hope you do not have an inf ^^

 

[gwyneth-love]

My Spec when i hit rr6 ...

39CS <-- you need CS .. or casters will be much harder ( + im slash so i need a stun )
50 Slash need bigg dmg cap
32 DW .. wileding a sabre + jamb resulting in 1,5444 DW speed and 67% chance of DW with Dualist3
34 Env
34 Stealth

I already do good with my current low DW spec but this one will rock even more .!

 

[Coffeus]

im sure ring of shades is lower than 18 str 15 dex btw
might wanna check it just in case

(Stafford - cba logging his brothers account out)

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

Don't mind the mopron Danya :I

If I ever made a mercfiltrator:

50 Thrust
50 DW
34 Stealth (Then at rr6 you have 50 stealth)
25 Envenom
21 Critical Strike

10 pts left over and if you autotrain stealth to level 48, you will have 87 points left, so would put the points to env, so it would be 28 -> 6 points left over.

Then the rr10 spec would be 31 stealth so you would have 100 points left if you would respec stealth to 31. (32+33+34+6=105)
= add 3 to envenom and have 31, hence capping stealth and env at rr10! :hat:

What comes to the set, don't bother having envenom on those boots. Just change that to critical strike and add an MP pair of say, cloth boots with 8 envenom for poison

Stupid me. Envenom 30 stealth 30 at 50. eeny weeny mistake ^^

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

Originally posted by Coffeus
im sure ring of shades is lower than 18 str 15 dex btw
might wanna check it just in case

(Stafford - cba logging his brothers account out)

1.64 = boosted epic cloak&ring :I

 

[Lam]

Well, I just put that envenom on those boots sicne I designed the template for a mercfil without cs.

And since Addlcove spec shows he hasn't got any cs I didn't change anything in it.

But if you're speccing to 21 cs then yes, it would be better to remove that envenom and add +cs there.

 

[aleana]

Originally posted by Danya
Assassin without CS, such gimpness.

I agree with you but what about no poisen?
Always wondered if it would work. Something like 35 stealth, 39 CS, 44 DW, 50 slash/thrust, for max damage on PA.

Would it work?

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Negura
Such stupid comments.
And your opinion is important why?

CS has the highest damaging styles in the game. If you want to throw away damage, go ahead, but I still think it's gimped.

 

[old.Emma]

Originally posted by SoulFly Amarok
1.64 = boosted epic cloak&ring :I

1.63 is the epic item boost.

1.64 is the new weapons and some other junk.

 

[bigchief]

Originally posted by Danya
CS has the highest damaging styles in the game. If you want to throw away damage, go ahead, but I still think it's gimped.

Indeed. With 21+15CS can still PA a SB for 440ish when buffed (thats a buffed sb in thrust resistant armour).

Cap is still nearly 600.

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

Originally posted by old.Emma
1.63 is the epic item boost.

1.64 is the new weapons and some other junk.

Bohoo, we will afaik get 1.64 straight, so includes 1.63.

 

[Negura]

- Pathfinder - are you an ass kisser? If so, do you actually like it or you just can't help it?

The message was not for you tbh.


"Mercfil is just as sad as shadowzerkers; I'll let you figure out why ^^"
As in sad means good (or say effective)?


"I sincerly hope you do not have an inf ^^"
Obviously I don't (hint: sig)

"CS has the highest damaging styles in the game. If you want to throw away damage, go ahead, but I still think it's gimped."

0.87 50 Dual Shadows M M M -M In Front of Target Target is Bleeding
0.75 18 Garrote H H M -M No Anytime Target is Hindered

Obviously Dual Shadow is a better style than Garrote both as growth rate and being a medium end style. Also has a bleeding effect.
And, again, it should be pretty obvious that speccing max Dual Weild gives you more consistent damage over time, because of the off-hand swing.
The chain Garrote + Achille's Heel is only marginally better than DS as overall damage and consuming more end.
And a style is always to be preffered to a chain.


If assasins is what you're intending/going to fight most, mercfil is superior to the CS spec.
And vs. good Assasins you should not be able to use PA. The bad ones are not a challenge anyway.
Mercfil template is also better vs heavy armored targets where CS has not so good scores to compensate for the lower damage overtime.

And I didn't say infil CS spec is a gimped one, but neither is mercfil, actually far from it.
If you don't like playing mercfil say that instead of stating it's gimped.
Because a mercfil/shadowzerk would hand your CS spec assasin arse on a plate anytime of the day. (similar conditions involved)

 

[old.Emma]

I think you`ll also find as a valid reason for speccing CS over DW ;p

CS will be getting a boost in 1.68
DW wont be getting squat for infils ;p

ohh and fyi

50 CS has far great damage potential than spamming DS over and over again ;p

ohh and SZ doesnt hand anyone there ass now fyi ;p

im about as close to SZ as it can get since the nurf 44 axe, 39 la and i certainly dont hand CS infils there ass all the time ;p

Ohh and i have a mercfil on excal as well just in case you wondered.

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Negura
-0.87 50 Dual Shadows M M M -M In Front of Target Target is Bleeding
0.75 18 Garrote H H M -M No Anytime Target is Hindered

Actually I was thinking of the evade chain rather than the anytime (note also that DS isn't anytime, while garrote is) or PA.

Also, consider:

0.87 50 Dual Shadows M M M -M In Front of Target Target is Bleeding

0.75 18 Garrote H H M -M No Anytime Target is Hindered
1.05 25 Achilles Heel M H M - No After 'Garrote' Target is Slowed

Average of garrote/ah is 0.9, the same as dual shadows.

For evade:

0.85 34 Dark Tendrils L M M - After You Evade Target is Bleeding

0.85 50 Dragonfang L M H -L After You Evade Target is Stunned

1.17 12 Hamstring L H M M No After You Evade Target is Bleeding
1.36 29 Leaper M H H L No After 'Hamstring' Target is Bleeding
1.36 44 Rib Separation L H H - No After 'Leaper' Target is Hindered

Dragonfang followed by CS evade chain is the best style chain in the game.

And that is why CS > DW.

 

[Negura]

"im about as close to SZ as it can get since the nurf 44 axe, 39 la and i certainly dont hand CS infils there ass all the time"

You're actually wrong, you're not as close to SZ as it can get.

I have a rr7 sb on Excalibur (Microbe) specced like this:
48 Axe, 44 LA, 33/33. Obviously 44 axe 39 la != 48 Axe 44 LA.
This is as close to SZ as one can get and I am doing VERY well vs CS specs infils. (it is true we're holding 2 str relics on Exc though, but anyway it is 10% damage difference)

"CS will be getting a boost in 1.68"

?! If this is not a joke where did you get this info from...
But anyway we're talking now, not 1 year away (GOA etc).


Danya when you're doing those calculations don't forget to include Mercfil are doing more damage because of the offhand swing and benefit more of the haste effect which leads to considerable better damage overtime.

Also as it is now with the very high quickness infils have, style damage is reduced considerably. Ah yes, and infils use haste potions too.

 

[Danya]

Yes that extra ~15% of swings (typically) will make up for significantly reduced style damage, and the ability to perf decently. </sarcasm>

 

[Negura]

Some ppl refuse to read. I have already said this in the previous post, but here we go again: As it is implemented in the current and next patch, style damage is not a factor to be really considered given the conditions of very high quickness and haste pots.
While this issue is going to be solved in 1.64 (? - I think), the style damage difference only applies to the evade chain.

I also forgot to mention the hefty chance of landing all your poisons at the very start of the fight (which is very important 1vs1).

But probably the most important of the CS line is the ability to perf. There are many cases where you can't use it (vs. other assasins or moving to the next target), and losing it puts you in disadvantage vs being a mercfil spec.

Imo mercfil is a solid spec, with both advantages and drawbacks compared the classic CS spec and by no means gimped.

 

[Danya]

Style damage isn't reduced that much, even by very high quickness. Certainly not to the point you can just ignore style bonus. Or we'd all run round spamming misty gloom.

 

[catalina]

Put simply, mercfil spec is far more effective atm.

A thrust mercfil will easily do comparable dmg over time with a CS infs evade chain but they'll use alot less end doing it.

I was originally slash/CS and it's a very inefficient spec, you'll not get to land PA chain nearly as often as you like and the end usage is just silly. I've since tried thrust/CS, thrust/DW and now finally settled on slash/DW.

Atm, thrust/DW is by far the most effective spec (50t, 50dw, 30s, 30e, 21cs) mainly because of the high dmg output combined with having 9s stun off evade. It's not too hard to take down 2 assassins alone with this spec due to comparatively low end usage and high dmg. DS is *effectively* an anytime style since it's front positional, and if you're enemy turns to run you wouldn't want to use garrotte/achilles anyway, pierce for thrust spec, backslash for slash.

In the end, how someone specs their char is entirely their choice, but mercfil is far from gimped, and imo is more effective than CS spec atm.

 

[Derric]

Hmm,what's all this talk about "it's impossible to PA this and that"? It's always possible to PA,just tricker every now and then.
I'm sure mercfil is a quite nice spec,but if you set out to hunt assassins(talking sb's here) there's no better spec than slash imo.
And Keriwin,if someone turns and run on you and that guy resisted snare or you forgot to use it I think you would want to use Garrotte on him.

 

[Borat]

My shadowblade got:
44 axe
44 left axe
15 cs
35 stealth
32 envenom

But i also got ~50 more hp than you, so i think its fair.

Good bye

ps. im saving up for Shadow Run now, so watch out.

 

[)nick(]

I'm looking at respeccing my infil. I'm wondering if the CS style damage is affected by your CS spec level. So say for example would it be best to spam the level 12 (with 12 CS spec) hamstring style after dragonfang or to keep spamming dragonfang (which is obviously at 50+ thrust spec)?

<edit: The reason why I ask this is because I have got quite a lot of auto trained points not to mention the extra points for creating him a long time ago. So I'm wondering if it's worth putting that extra bit into CS>

 

[Danya]

Yes they are nicolas.