Mercfil; new fotm?

[adari]

Seems to be so many new mercfils now adays, a few weeks ago the only one's i knew were sxx, stt and me ;d

I guess a twobutton infil is the future ;d

 

[rure_]

the less the merrier

 

[asorek]

well 3 button infils are too complicated for alb's..it was an obviously evolution!!

just so im ahead of the trend.... NERF!

 

[froler-mid]

or its the fact we all got a single line respec, try out new stuff etc ;dd

 

[adari]

Originally posted by froler-mid
or its the fact we all got a single line respec, try out new stuff etc ;dd

so have you tried yet? ;p

 

[Aybabtu]

Originally posted by froler-mid
(only been mercfil for 1 weekish..)

^^

 

[yurka_polearm]

only high rr can get anyway with mercinfli though

without gimping stealth or evenom?

 

[choonz]

I was gunna /level 20 one as soon as my main hit 50. By the time he hit 50 there was getting to be a few tho, so i /leveled a scout instead
Might do a classic CS inf too tho

 

[-fwapp-]

anyway just what is the DS/garrote damage difference?

 

[Aybabtu]

Originally posted by -fwapp-
anyway just what is the DS/garrote damage difference?

No very big afaik, been awhile since i had DS but i think garotte eats more end.

 

[froler-mid]

i belive id did higher dmg with garrote(44CS) then DS.....its the end usage and lefthand swing thats 'good' with mercfil.

 

[witte-]

I waited till i dinged rr6 then respecced DW and i like it more then CS , cus garrote eated end anyway ;d

 

[samildanachh]

i might try out mercfil now, sinse i dont care about the inf any more

i dont think its fotm but merc is certainly fotm

 

[Snk]

My infil was a mercinfil for 3 months, nice offhand, less endurance use, beats pre nerf SZ (i was 44 cs before), tho now i respecced back to 50cs, DS4thewinwithDFasbackup was getting boring :/ tho it was very nice against other stealthers , well yeah i am just babling on so i'll shut up now

Greetings,

 

[old.Emma]

Garrote will do less damage than DS btw at equal spec

0.75 growth rate on Garrote
0.87 on DS

AH on the otherhand will do more than DS

1.05 Growth rate on AH

Problem is Garrote is its pre-req :/

Medium End cost on DS which is ~10-12 styles before ooe
High End cost on Garrote which is ~5-7 styles before ooe

Offhand swing rate with 50+11 DW rr5 and DR3 is 78.2% which is pretty much every hit.

Using a 3.9 spd rapier (1.64 weapon) and 2.9 spd Longdirk or if you have it the 3.3 spd sidi rapier, you can expect to see this sort of damage vs SB`s or NS`s.

SB using 3.9/2.9 combo

You Perform Duel Shadows Perfectly. (+137)
You hit Test_Dummy with your Exceptional Rapier 190(-117) Damage!
You hit Test_Dummy with your Long Dirk 82(-50) Damage!

SB using 3.9/3.3 combo

You Perform Duel Shadows Perfectly. (+137)
You hit Test_Dummy with your Exceptional Rapier 190(-117) Damage!
You hit Test_Dummy with your Sidi Rapier 95(-58) Damage!

NS using 3.9/2.9 combo

You Perform Duel Shadows Perfectly. (+137)
You hit Test_Dummy with your Exceptional Rapier 227(-80) Damage!
You hit Test_Dummy with your Long Dirk 98(-34) Damage!

NS using 3.9/3.3 combo

You Perform Duel Shadows Perfectly. (+137)
You hit Test_Dummy with your Exceptional Rapier 227(-80) Damage!
You hit Test_Dummy with your Sidi Rapier 113(-40) Damage!
This is based on 250 qui, 65 thrust/dw, DR3 and no str relics


Add in 20% relic bonus, and you get upwards of 280+ vs SB/NS targets with capped resists.

 

[iluvatur]

doesnt garrote suck? i thought using tranq combo, with df and hamstring chains combo as a backup was better defence/damage

could be mistaken, but im sure pin said this was best

 

[Ocond]

Aye, Tranq has a defence bonus, so you tend to evade more by using it, and Wyvernfang has higher damage output.

Does the trick for me.

Still have Garrote on my quickbar tho, cos its fast, easy damage, for a one button spam, when you need it.

 

[[DK]hakke]

Originally posted by Ocond
Aye, Tranq has a defence bonus, so you tend to evade more by using it

tought that too, people say defence bonus doesn't affect evade.

 

[Danya]

It doesn't, to-hit and defence bonus / penalty only affect basic hit/miss chance, not evade/parry/block. There's also a damage bonus for high to-hit on high level mobs.