Merc weapons- Champ vs Malice mainhand debate.

[Achilles]

Anyone who has got any opinions or even better some evidence on which is better to have in main hand? Personally i went for offhand version, because i was told the champ weapon tended to miss more. Is that a bug that has been fixed or? I havnt used the champ wep rvr as i am still sorting a DR template, so really dont know how good the proc is etc.
Any input welcome.

 

[Arumos]

well personally i think its quite an easy decision

malice is the best proc in the game for a weapon, if it procs during a fight 9/10 you will win. I dont think to highly of the champ weapon tbh so would always have malice mainhand, even if they purge it, my merc with 250 qui, 20% haste twats it back on them pretty quick. why hinder its chances of proccing by having it offhand?

o and a new emote!! :england:

 

[Ging]

stop killing me with your fooking warlock u BASTARD! well at least do it then rofl rather than wave/hug/dance from the safety fo your tower!!! I was busy running away screaming like the bitch I am from a hib zerg!

on topic Malice MH > all - no question. I have Cl weap in OH basically for whats imbued on it and the end regen

 

[Straef]

Not gonna be using Malice here Gonna have a go at celerity mainhand and champ offhand, tho I've got fuck all proof to back anything up... :<

 

[Arumos]

stop killing me with your fooking warlock u BASTARD! well at least do it then rofl rather than wave/hug/dance from the safety fo your tower!!! I was busy running away screaming like the bitch I am from a hib zerg!

on topic Malice MH > all - no question. I have Cl weap in OH basically for whats imbued on it and the end regen

LOL :england:

 

[Darzil]

The miss rate thing was down to an unpublicised feature of artifacts, namely that they have a lower miss rate than all other weapons.

I believe Champion weapons have now joined them at the lower miss rate.

Against other level 50's, though, it's something you only noticed when using styles with no or low bonuses to hit, otherwise you'd not miss anyway (though can be evaded, blocked or parried).

But as people have said, as the speeds are similar, so haste effect is minor, use the weapon with the best proc (Malice) in your main hand, as it swings every time.

Darzil

 

[Darzil]

Not gonna be using Malice here Gonna have a go at celerity mainhand and champ offhand, tho I've got fuck all proof to back anything up... :<

Sounded good before pallies got celerity.

I had several pieces of celerity armour I was going to give to my 2 handed armsman for a similar effect. Since the patch I've salvaged them.

Darzil

 

[Martok]

well i use Champ weapon main hand and malice off hand, tbh ive found that i tend to hit with my offhand alot anyways and malice always seems to go off also the champ weapon main hand i dont seem to miss as much as i used to so! the choice though is your own, do what you think is best :england:

 

[Straef]

Sounded good before pallies got celerity.

I had several pieces of celerity armour I was going to give to my 2 handed armsman for a similar effect. Since the patch I've salvaged them.

Darzil

I thought about doing the same, but having a celerity proc myself, rather than being dependant on some paladin would be worth losing malice proc, as I never really cared too much for it to begin with. Not to mention that if celerity on pala's turns out to be a hit and we'll actually get some proper tank groups (PLEASE!), whatever other tank I'll be grouped with will most likely have malice
And I've got quite a nice template waiting aswell, especially nice considering the fact that the mainhand is a rog And ye, energy/spirit are zero, big deal ;p I don't plan on standing still while being pbae'ed, if I ever get as lucky as to meet any such specced casters

Stats

Str: 101 Int: 0 Hits: 309
Con: 81 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 46 Cha: 0
Qui: 100 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 27 Energy: 0 Crush: 27 (3)
Cold: 27 (5) Matter: 26 Thrust: 25
Heat: 25 Spirit: 0 Slash: 33 (2)

Skills

11 Dual Wield

11 Slash

3 Parry

Focus

Cap Increases

24 Qui

5 Dex

96 Hits

25 Str

5 Con

Other Bonuses

26 AF Bonus

10 Melee Damage Bonus

11 Melee Speed Bonus

10 Style Damage Bonus

 

[Martok]

nice overall stats wouldnt mind seeing the sc its self and the rog weapon straef

 

[Straef]

nice overall stats wouldnt mind seeing the sc its self and the rog weapon straef

Well, I'll post the entire sc once I secure le items Might sound silly, but it won't hurt to be overly careful when there's only 1-2 of the items on cm's
Anyway, here's the celerity sword:

Right Hand
Name: Celerity Slasher
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 25 Hits
Effect 3: 10 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Dual Wield
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 53.92

Quite nice for a rog, me thinks

 

[Konah]

having +21dw and mainhand usually hitting bubble or brittle i think offhand for malice is fine myself.

the champ slasher mainhand is 4.2 which gives a lil more dmg in a celerity group, the resist debuff will also help more vs neutral/resistant/pd targets than malice would.

 

[Konah]

Energy: 0

hohoho

 

[Straef]

hohoho

Rox :d

 

[Punishment]

Imo there is No debate ... Malice mainhand

Just think after every time u release ... if only the person who killed me had -25% to all stats
















.... Oh wait



















Doh

 

[Konah]

could equally say "if only i'd done 10% more dmg per hand and 10% bigger crits and killed the person who killed me" imo

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Straef just got raped by Trollum... :O.

 

[Martok]

Well, I'll post the entire sc once I secure le items Might sound silly, but it won't hurt to be overly careful when there's only 1-2 of the items on cm's
Anyway, here's the celerity sword:

Right Hand
Name: Celerity Slasher
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 25 Hits
Effect 3: 10 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Dual Wield
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 53.92

Quite nice for a rog, me thinks

doesnt sounds silly at all straef i do the same

is that sword 99% or mp if its mp then that is damn nice find! just a shame that dex isnt str

 

[Mufasa]

Well is easy enough to change Champ weapon from main hand to off hand isn't it? so try both see what you like most

 

[Straef]

Straef just got raped by Trollum... :O.

Wha? oO

 

[Straef]

doesnt sounds silly at all straef i do the same

is that sword 99% or mp if its mp then that is damn nice find! just a shame that dex isnt str

It''s MP alright, or I wouldn't have bothered with it

 

[Blow]

Im using this template atm, next time i think i lower energy a bit to have quick some higher, now with aug qui im capping it but can use the ra for better use. And yes the 1 missing in style dmg is a shame but cant sort that.

Stats
Str: 101 Int: 0 Hits: 336
Con: 101 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 15 Cha: 0
Qui: 80 Emp: 0

Resists:
Crush : 26 Heat : 26 Body : 27
Slash : 26 Cold : 28 Spirit : 23
Thrust : 26 Matter: 25 Energy : 25

Skills:
11 Crush 4 Slash
4 Thrust 0 Shield
0 Parry 11 Dual Wield

Focus:

Cap Increases:
26 Strength
26 Constitution
5 Quickness
136 Hits

Other Bonuses:
9 Style Damage
10 Melee Speed
10 Melee Damage
16 AF

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Wha? oO

Thanes getting Leviathan like styles with energy DD proc. Once your charge/purge is down you'll get slammed and buttfucked . Maybe even with a sun weapon.

 

[Straef]

Thanes getting Leviathan like styles with energy DD proc. Once your charge/purge is down you'll get slammed and buttfucked . Maybe even with a sun weapon.

Thanes killing me? Not very likely ;< They're the least of my worries as things are now