Merc Question

RS|Phil

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Just a quick question. Mercs are like the other Dual Wielders in that if you['re using the Left Axe, Celtic Dual, Dual Wield styles that you just need effective 51 weapon spec to cap WS and it has no effect other than that if you don't want the styles?

Like...crush 38+13 = 51
So a merc final spec could be 50 DW 38 Crush 42 Parry some shield etc

Ya know what I mean :)
 

RS|Phil

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Why? The DW stlyes have much larger damage :)
Only good thing about crush is the OP anytime stun chain :p
 

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Ive heard that the lvl 50 DW style "Dual Shadows" is bugged in sum way.
So u NEED maxed out weapon spec for it to do max dmg, ie 50+RR.
Can any1 tell me if that is true or false ?
 

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Neo said:
Ive heard that the lvl 50 DW style "Dual Shadows" is bugged in sum way.
So u NEED maxed out weapon spec for it to do max dmg, ie 50+RR.
Can any1 tell me if that is true or false ?

Its true, lvl 50 styles in DW CD LA use wep spec for some reason
 

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Well even if that's correct, that's still 51 (38+13 or whatever you have it spec at to get effective 51)

That's unless it uses base weapon spec.
 

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The 50 styles use the base weapon spec, not the advanced weapon spec.

So, if you use the 50 advanced weapon style a lot (as Mercs tend to), then base weapon spec at 50 is important. If you don't use it much (as some other classes tend not to), then the 51 effective guideline can be used.

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aye if you wish to abuse DS on your target you need base 50 weapon for max dmg as drazil said it DOES NOT use the advanced weapon spec for its calculations! i tryed the spec you said its good for solo but you knowtice your dmg output drop!
 

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RS|Phil said:
So is this a bug then?

Not rly as its the same for all 3 lines and there are no plans to fix it from mythic, abit strange tho:)
 

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Working as Intended as Mercs are ment to be pure offensive class!
 

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RS|Phil said:
So is this a bug then?

Well, the Merc team lead appealed it as one to the devs.

Not heard an official word one way or the other, though.

Darzil
 

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RS|Phil said:
Only good thing about crush is the OP anytime stun chain :p

true true, but it does bad enuf dmg already without going wyrd spec ^^

i specd 39crush on my merc a while back (for solo spec) and the dmg difference was horrible, like being rr1 again :/
 

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Would this mean then that an Inf with 50 DW 37 CS 34 Thrust would hit softer than 50 Thrust 50 CS 8 DW? Or does it really depend on what line you attack from?

To say if you use Dual Wield mostly then 50 DW +17 is better?

Or if you decide that CS line is for you then 50 CS +17 is better but lower DW will just mean you hit less with your off hand.

Through out the years I hear different side and do not have the fund to swap and change. So I can only listen to others who have swapped and changed.
 

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You could do without the dual shadows style, as flank and backslash are nice too, so you should be alright in fg's, but it might be a bit hard to not use either dia slash or dual shadows when soloing, as you can't have people stunned entire fights :p
 

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Alhanna said:
Would this mean then that an Inf with 50 DW 37 CS 34 Thrust would hit softer than 50 Thrust 50 CS 8 DW? Or does it really depend on what line you attack from?

Assuming RR8 as you seem to be, 50+17 DW, 50+17 Thrust vs 34+17 Thrust

Using dual weild styles (other than dual shadows) - same damage.
Using dual shadows - same base damage, lower style damage.
Using thrust styles - same base damage, lower style damage, fewer styles.

Same logic applies with Crit strike in place of dual weild.

Doing low dual wield if you're not using those styles also means a loss of offhand damage and haste effect (if using slow mainhand/fast offhand).

Darzil
 

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