Mentas are they worth it?
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yes mentas are not so welcome in rvr-gank groups coz of no pbaoe .. if i would make some gank group i wanted to have some pbaoe dmg too .. since all assist trains going for casters and only good and quick method to kill em all at once (being bg'ed) is to pbaoe.
on the other hand if u dont meet 2fg mid rvr group .. and u have like rr8 u can nuke very hard .. and very quick too .. if u get some ench debuffing for you , you just gonna make much 2hit-kill miracles .. i make it often when get properly debuffed .. just 2hits over 1k dmg and target is dead (dont forget u do it in about 2,4 sec, so no healer can react in this time).
so it s your choise .. ahh dont forget u gonna have easy mode by artifact/scrolls farming.
on the other hand if u dont meet 2fg mid rvr group .. and u have like rr8 u can nuke very hard .. and very quick too .. if u get some ench debuffing for you , you just gonna make much 2hit-kill miracles .. i make it often when get properly debuffed .. just 2hits over 1k dmg and target is dead (dont forget u do it in about 2,4 sec, so no healer can react in this time).
so it s your choise .. ahh dont forget u gonna have easy mode by artifact/scrolls farming.
fetwelvezz
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Mentas will be a whole lot better when NF gets going.
One of the most common Mentalist complaints is the difference between the Hib pet charm and the Alb one. Alb uses a percentage of mana and the pet is charmed. Hib one pulses and uses mana each pulse. This means that high lvl pets (orange con) will drain a Ments powa pretty fast, especially if he's nuking.
This is why many Light ments concentrate on using their DD's alone and just get a grey con pet. Ment gets mez'ed, pulse stops, charm breaks, pet agro's ment, breaks mez, charm pulses again, pet is charmed, Ment starts nuking (aka free Purge).
This is why many Light ments concentrate on using their DD's alone and just get a grey con pet. Ment gets mez'ed, pulse stops, charm breaks, pet agro's ment, breaks mez, charm pulses again, pet is charmed, Ment starts nuking (aka free Purge).
Yep only that mana usage is based on mob type. Humanoid (first charm spell) takes the least mana and last (all types) takes most mana. Pet lvl does not affect mana usage. But as you want as few resists in rvr as possible you dont take high con pet.
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mentalists rock in rvr but everyone just dreams of deathspam hence pbaoe :/
grp with a chanter smack assist on em pretty much anything they debuff goes down in 2 nukes
it is true we have less utility than elds and chanters in the way that we can help out
but having a class that can mez,stun,heal,HOT,POT,charm,dot,and nuke for a shitload hasd its perks and as stated we get a free purge in the way of a pet
they are a wonderful class for pve and rvr i love mine to bits im hoping they get the recognition they deserve in NF and with the advent of selective blindness and static tempest and all realms getting grp purge i think life is gonna get interesting
grp with a chanter smack assist on em pretty much anything they debuff goes down in 2 nukes
it is true we have less utility than elds and chanters in the way that we can help out
but having a class that can mez,stun,heal,HOT,POT,charm,dot,and nuke for a shitload hasd its perks and as stated we get a free purge in the way of a pet
they are a wonderful class for pve and rvr i love mine to bits im hoping they get the recognition they deserve in NF and with the advent of selective blindness and static tempest and all realms getting grp purge i think life is gonna get interesting
as opposed to a class that can ae mez, stun, nearsight, dex/qui debuff, dex debuff, str debuff, disease, str/con debuff, bolt, pbaoe, and nuke for a shitloadchipper said:
i know which one i'd choose ^^
best thing about light ment is the dd gfx - no kill me please sign
most of the utility they get is useless in roaming rvr
(heal, hot, pot, dot, mez, ae dd are useless for open field.. charm is arguable), leaving them as a pet class possibly with cure mez and a spec dd
imo, for spec dd in hib:
light eld (nearsight, 2nd cc, dex/qui debuff, str/con debuff, disease, str & dex debuffs) > light chanter (pet, speed, dps debuff) > light ment (pet)
don't hate the messenger, hate the message...
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Amadon said:as opposed to a class that can ae mez, stun, nearsight, dex/qui debuff, dex debuff, str debuff, disease, str/con debuff, bolt, pbaoe, and nuke for a shitload
i know which one i'd choose ^^
best thing about light ment is the dd gfx - no kill me please sign
most of the utility they get is useless in roaming rvr
(heal, hot, pot, dot, mez, ae dd are useless for open field.. charm is arguable), leaving them as a pet class possibly with cure mez and a spec dd
imo, for spec dd in hib:
light eld (nearsight, 2nd cc, dex/qui debuff, str/con debuff, disease, str & dex debuffs) > light chanter (pet, speed, dps debuff) > light ment (pet)
don't hate the messenger, hate the message...
get a frost stallion as pet and u gonna rox
also got this list:
First charm is Humanoids
Second charm is Animals
Third charm is insects
Fourth is Magical
Fifth is Undead
Sixth is All
and menta new RR5 should be pretty nice
legar
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yups new menta RA is doing very well in NF +
STATIC TEMPEST a RA wich will be a LOT used on current NF experience is mentalist only as only hib user
add that with perma purge and demezz.. the light ment will become a very powerfull caster in NF
and the fact he can solo a LOT of artifacts with a bot helps also
STATIC TEMPEST a RA wich will be a LOT used on current NF experience is mentalist only as only hib user
add that with perma purge and demezz.. the light ment will become a very powerfull caster in NF
and the fact he can solo a LOT of artifacts with a bot helps also
//as opposed to a class that can ae mez, stun, nearsight, dex/qui debuff, dex
//debuff, str debuff, disease, str/con debuff, bolt, pbaoe, and nuke for
//shitload
plase giv me that specc mate. i just cant see how u want have all those abilitys and to be them descent, i mean aoe mezz for 14 sec or so is not quite pwerfull, as base specc bolt too. if u light eld u have a big sign on your body "KILL ME# coz of nice dd animiation, which even trolls can see.
the one and only uberness of light eld is the nearsight. with good to range and to cast, u prolly must be able to nearsight sorcs before they cast mezz. this is very uber. i ve done it all the time as i played supp runemaster. but if u see light elds in rvr now, they all try to nuke first, coz nearsight is not so easy to use, or becoze as was already sayd they look for death spam, not for group helpfull playing. the right played light eld, who neasight the enemy, makes any enemy group at least 3 times less effective. i never forget those healers trying to spreadHeal the savages when nearsighted and mages running to 300 range to make a nuke, this is just priceless.
for dex/quick debuf every zerker and savage gonna love you big time. and lvl 26 pbaoe hurt not so bad.
this all goes ofcoz to light eld, not to mana ment whos dd suck big time except snare component. i played both of em and muct admit i liked light eld more than mana, but those were times without determination which just ignorers my aoe mezz (32 sec length).
ment on the other side havenot so much abilities in rvr, but they are very powerfull. selfPurge+cureMezz = free bard and prolly mezed enemys again. 25% piercing this patch = very hard dd, especially combined with MoM5 and 10% toa bonus. ment is just killing maschine with very less support abilities, but is more superrior to light eld in pair with ench, as they share one type of nuke (heat). EDIT: ahh and dont forget 326 delve heals, and Single mezz for small amoutn of time
btw all speak here about autoPurge on ment, dont forget guys if u got mezzed your pet is mezzed too, almost 100%. so not so big chances of purge
//debuff, str debuff, disease, str/con debuff, bolt, pbaoe, and nuke for
//shitload
plase giv me that specc mate. i just cant see how u want have all those abilitys and to be them descent, i mean aoe mezz for 14 sec or so is not quite pwerfull, as base specc bolt too. if u light eld u have a big sign on your body "KILL ME# coz of nice dd animiation, which even trolls can see.
the one and only uberness of light eld is the nearsight. with good to range and to cast, u prolly must be able to nearsight sorcs before they cast mezz. this is very uber. i ve done it all the time as i played supp runemaster. but if u see light elds in rvr now, they all try to nuke first, coz nearsight is not so easy to use, or becoze as was already sayd they look for death spam, not for group helpfull playing. the right played light eld, who neasight the enemy, makes any enemy group at least 3 times less effective. i never forget those healers trying to spreadHeal the savages when nearsighted
and mages running to 300 range to make a nuke, this is just priceless.for dex/quick debuf every zerker and savage gonna love you big time. and lvl 26 pbaoe hurt not so bad.
this all goes ofcoz to light eld, not to mana ment whos dd suck big time except snare component. i played both of em and muct admit i liked light eld more than mana, but those were times without determination which just ignorers my aoe mezz (32 sec length).
ment on the other side havenot so much abilities in rvr, but they are very powerfull. selfPurge+cureMezz = free bard and prolly mezed enemys again. 25% piercing this patch = very hard dd, especially combined with MoM5 and 10% toa bonus. ment is just killing maschine with very less support abilities, but is more superrior to light eld in pair with ench, as they share one type of nuke (heat). EDIT: ahh and dont forget 326 delve heals, and Single mezz for small amoutn of time
btw all speak here about autoPurge on ment, dont forget guys if u got mezzed your pet is mezzed too, almost 100%. so not so big chances of purge
legar
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About the pet being mezzed
When you release a pet, all crowd control effects on it are immediately cleared BUT, if it is far enough away to get re-mezzed when you release it, you are screwed. No free purge for you.
So keep the pet passive and to your side at all times :worthy:
When you release a pet, all crowd control effects on it are immediately cleared BUT, if it is far enough away to get re-mezzed when you release it, you are screwed. No free purge for you.
So keep the pet passive and to your side at all times :worthy:
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