Mentalist advice pls

[old.Akirai]

Really thinking of starting a mentalist for pvp, just to be different to everyone else and give the extra options such as ae dots, pow/hp regen, mez etc. Was looking at char builder and its just too hard to decide how to spec one.

Thinking 15 mentalism for 34 sec mezz.
Other 2 lines i really aint got a clue. Do i go all out holism for dot, ae dot, hp regen, mana regen? Or do i go all out illusions for top pet, dd, and ae dd? Or split both and be average at each? And is it true illusion line is being nerfed?

Some help from a mentalist or hibbies who know about mentalists would be appreaciated.

Thx

 

[Armolas]

mypetmage

Go There.

In general there are 3 options -

Support class, high mana and mentalism - not my cup of tea, there are a few around though, and they do well, somehow I don't think it will be great to be without nikes on the pvp server though.

Light Mentalist
45 light 24 mana 15 mentalism
bezt hibbie nuker + mana regen mez and heals, orange pets.

Balanced mentalist
35 light 36 mana 19 mentalism
decent nuker, good dotter, heals and mez.
does the most damage over time, with dots and nukes, but not quite a good in short pvp fights. Yellow pets.

Currently I am balanced, but when respec comes I may go to light, I will see how well the changed DoTs work.

 

[Ghelwina]

45light / 25mana / 16mentalism

Best dd+aedd+charm
Decent pow regen (3)
+some dots to play with

 

[old.Akirai]

me mate diabien says he heard light mentalists are gonna be crap next patch. u heard anything on that armolas?
Also which order should you spec them? full light until u start getting mini dings?

Cheers for the help

 

[Armolas]

Hmmm welll i don't know about crap - maybe heat resists will be more common or something, don't know about that.

Pets will be fixed properly though (not dropping youout of speed all the time ) but on the other hand dot's will be improved, making them more tempting ...

speccing wise, get mana 4 as a priority to get the first mana regen, you might want to keep a little in mentalism as you go up to get better heals (at low levels when you have a decent mentalism to level ratio, you will out heal druids easily, but be careful of the aggro you get from doing this - never use the "greater ticket to death" heals in combat.

I went a support class most of the way up - keeping mana at roughly 2/3 of level, and light and ment at half each until i got mentalism high enough, then kept mana and light going up equally till mana got high enough and then finally pushed light up.

When I started being able to use spec nukes insteadof baseline for about the same damage, they cost a lot less power, but having a high mana regen had offset this a lot by the end - at lower levels, before mana regen was patched in I was running oop a lot if i had to nuke.

Fortunately in a group, double dots and the odd heal and nuke are more than enough on mobs - things will be different on pvp, as you will be fighting people a lot more on the way up, so keep your light spec fairly high - at least 2/3 of level all the way IMO - this will allow you also to have a pet at all times.

Speccing light all the way will not gimp you (you'll still be the 2nd best nuker, losing out to runies) but you will miss out on the flexibility that is the trademark of mentalists.

Whatever, have fun - I am still undecided on PvP between a mentie, sorc or runie - don't fancy being yet another pbaoe whore, and these 3 are the best nuking classes with flexability. Will probably stick with mentalist as I know it well, but sorcerers are pretty damn good as well, and a nuker with pbt might be handy - don't think I could stand playing a smurf though

 

[Lisco_Cataluz]

Hmmm.... Time to post a reply again i think

Im one of those rare mana specced mentalist in Hib/Exa.

Speccs are:

Mana 46 (+14)
Light 23 (+10)
Mentalism 16 (+5)

Also purphased RA's as following:

Augmented Aguity II
Serenity I
Wild Power III
Master of Magery III
Wild Arcana I
Mystical Crytal Lore

My thoughts are that Light mentalist get nerfed a little in future, but until that they sure are hardest nukers in Hib.
Im not so much up for getting best nuke (DD). In RvR i can deal with my baseline DD & 34sec mezz, if we are in usual "hit & run" business.
When it's either taking a fort, or defensing it i can really get use of my powers. AoE DoT (lvl46) hurts bad, and good thing is that you only have to be visible to enemies short time to cast it and then move out of line of sight. Then i just chain cast until outta mana (which happens only if im real trigger happy , this is because Enpowering Perfection (Mana Regen value 5) + Serenity I.
Some times i also stack lvl48 base line DoT on few targets, to really kick some dmg in . Whats left on enemies after that can easily dealt with base line dd.
After patch, is also coming a BIG improvement to DoTs, instead of that 4 * tic, they are going to be 6 * tic. This may sound like it's not so important but believe me it is. It really keeps enemy healers busy as they see their whole group "ticking to death"
For damage output calculations peeps should visit webpage's as suggested earlier.
I just wait now for that patch 1.52 to kick in and then i can respec my menta to following:

Mana 50
Light 4
Mentalism 20

If it's not working (which i doubt), then single line respec to:

Mana 24
Light 48
Mentalism 6

Which is a bit weird, but after respeccing realm abilities as well to get serenity II, its still a usefull char in rvr imo.

Well time will show us whats going to happen, until then good luck with hunting

<Lisco>

Elf Grove Protector

 

[old.Laryssa]

24 mana / 45 light / 17 mentalism

RA: MoM 3, WP 1, MCL 1, Serenity 1

this is my template and i'm very happy with it

 

[Kobold]

And is it true illusion line is being nerfed?

Hmm never heared anything about it, hope it's not true as I'm rolling a light mentalist atm. He is now lvl 20 with 19 light and 6 in mana. I tried him in BG a little bit and I must say teh light nukes kick ass

Mana spec is allso very nice, good pot and dots. Ae dot is very nice in RvR, but on PvP server with dots you will kill you're enemies after you are dead you're self witch give no reward witch sux. So on PvP as ment I would go high light, little in mana for mr and little bit ment for higher mez and better heals.

GL with you're ment, I really luv mine, Haven't played kob for a while becouse of that little funny midget hehe

 

[old.Tzeentch]

/em Laughs out Loud

 

[Armolas]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
/em Laughs out Loud

I thought you had a life now Tzee

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Well I do
Just waiting for it to get going at full speed later this week

I was just looking at Lisco's post and was a bit.. surprised.

 

[Lisco_Cataluz]

erm.... Why were u surprised ?

What i have heard that light aoe dd / dd will get nerffed at 1.52 & 1.52 patch. So im sticking with mana spec


<Lisco>

Elf Grove Protector

 

[Armolas]

Where did you hear that?

I'm surprised as for e.g. Kwea the team lead respecced to light after 1.52. The only thing that can change is that heat resist become (even) more common.

 

[Lisco_Cataluz]

Yeah, that resist thing is "the nerffing" issue.

In future you will see msg like:

"You hitted xxx for 280Dmg (-180)"

or something like that...

Don't know if it's true or not, but that's anyway what i have heard. As i said before, we will see...


<Lisco>

Elf Grove Protector

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Well about the future 'nerfing'; there is nothing to indicate that any spells in the mentalist line will change in 1.53, or for a while.

The 'nerfing' people are hearing about is the increased difficulty mages might have in killing tanks due to the decrease in points required to get IP, purge etc.

Resists are already in, they will become more abundant as more people wise up to the massive effect resists have on RvR.

Lisco, your current spec seems fine, but your RA's are all over the place.. and your respec ideas are totally crazy in my opinion.

But it's your char

 

[old.Leel]

Hmm, Lisco, if you are level 50, you will only get ONE respec, and that is the full respec.
Oh, and I'm going mana mentalist with sub spec in mentalism for pvp server.

 

[Lisco_Cataluz]

Hmmm...

mkay, i can still try respec abilty at Gorre, and if not happy with it then just respec at exca. But u r right, there is no single line respec to existing chars over lvl40. (maybe?).
Anyway i think my 1st reply answer to advice request, thought i slipped in few mistakes etc.

Peace!


<Lisco>

Elf Grove Protector