Melee Ranger spec ???

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Hi ive got myself a RR3 Ranger im kitting out for the melee life :D

Been pondering various specs ... im not going hybrid !

Hows this one ?

RR3 Spec :

50 Celtic dual
37 Blades
37 Stealth
24 Pathfinding Or 21(Best Dmg shield 4.2dps)
1 Recurve Bow ... Phear ! Or 11(For Shooting doors with Fools Bow)
 

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Kaelimar said:
without auto?


Afaik no auto on meh ranger ... if it was id go w/o a doubt @ rr3

50 Celtic Dual
37 Stealth
37 Blades
21 Pathfinding
14 Recurve Bow
 

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About the 12 bow issue, here's an example.

Your lvl 50 ranger has NOT been autotrained and has a total of 2979 Skill points:

- It will train your baseline bow to 12, no matter what respec stone you use.
- It will use up points from your lvl 50 pool.

Your ranger will have 2909 points left to play with.

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Your level 50 ranger HAS been autotrained and has a total of 3056 skill points:

- It will train your baseline bow to 12, no matter what respec stone you use.
- It will use up points from your lvl 50 pool.

Your ranger will have 2979 points left to play with.

So in short, if you don't autotrain you will have less points to put into the other speclines. And please don't think I'm wrong here, I've tested it 3 times with the same result, it will always train 12 bow for you no matter which respec stone or whatever you use.
 

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Solari said:
About the 12 bow issue, here's an example.

Your lvl 50 ranger has NOT been autotrained and has a total of 2979 Skill points:

- It will train your baseline bow to 12, no matter what respec stone you use.
- It will use up points from your lvl 50 pool.

Your ranger will have 2909 points left to play with.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your level 50 ranger HAS been autotrained and has a total of 3056 skill points:

- It will train your baseline bow to 12, no matter what respec stone you use.
- It will use up points from your lvl 50 pool.

Your ranger will have 2979 points left to play with.

So in short, if you don't autotrain you will have less points to put into the other speclines. And please don't think I'm wrong here, I've tested it 3 times with the same result, it will always train 12 bow for you no matter which respec stone or whatever you use.

this is 100% correct

respecced a few times... allways end up whit 12 bow.. no matter if ur auto trained or not :/

only thing i havent tryd is when u /level 20 a ranger and then dont spend eny points into bow.. do the points still go into bow and u have 12 in there at lvl 50 !! couse when u make a lvl char... u have specc 1 on bow... even tho u should have 3-4 something if autotrained
 

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hmm, i just recently full respecced my shar /level ranger and i had to clickety click bow from 1 to 15
 

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Solari said:
About the 12 bow issue, here's an example.

Your lvl 50 ranger has NOT been autotrained and has a total of 2979 Skill points:

- It will train your baseline bow to 12, no matter what respec stone you use.
- It will use up points from your lvl 50 pool.

Your ranger will have 2909 points left to play with.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your level 50 ranger HAS been autotrained and has a total of 3056 skill points:

- It will train your baseline bow to 12, no matter what respec stone you use.
- It will use up points from your lvl 50 pool.

Your ranger will have 2979 points left to play with.

So in short, if you don't autotrain you will have less points to put into the other speclines. And please don't think I'm wrong here, I've tested it 3 times with the same result, it will always train 12 bow for you no matter which respec stone or whatever you use.

somehow this is bullshit

my ranger has 50blades/34cd/34stealth/31pf and 1 recurve bow

PS still hitting casters for 180-210 dmg with my uber 1+11 bow spec :>
PS2 thinking to respec to 50blades/48cd/32stealth at rr8 :D
 

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anioal said:
somehow this is bullshit

my ranger has 50blades/34cd/34stealth/31pf and 1 recurve bow

PS still hitting casters for 180-210 dmg with my uber 1+11 bow spec :>
PS2 thinking to respec to 50blades/48cd/32stealth at rr8 :D

/level 20 ranger ?

and u didnt specc into bow ?

if that works.. it rawks

and the thing up there is 100% correct
he didnt take account /level
 

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i got a shar blades ranjur i havent used in ageeeeeeeeeeees now i wouldnt mind hook him up with some good items etc :p fully toaed but only played him to rr5 or so :D need some good stuff on him :p and yes i havent done MLS or CLS :p bak to the point what is a good shar ranjur blade spec:D?
 

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/level 20 will count as not autotraining.
This however will enable your class not to train the 12 bow giving you the full amount of skillpoints. (Non autotrained)

I'm unsure if a /respec all will train the 12 bow.
 

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Solari said:
/level 20 will count as not autotraining.
This however will enable your class not to train the 12 bow giving you the full amount of skillpoints. (Non autotrained)

I'm unsure if a /respec all will train the 12 bow.

cool.

so if u never ever specc into bow.. u stay at 1 :)

but if u decide to spend points in there u will get the 12 thing again prob.
 

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Kaun_IA said:
cool.

so if u never ever specc into bow.. u stay at 1 :)

but if u decide to spend points in there u will get the 12 thing again prob.

I guess so since numberous people has confirmed the 1 bow. However my rangers were all made from scratch so I havn't had the opportunity to test it with /level 20.

These days it's probably better to start from 0 and autotrain for those extra points, they do make a huge diffrence in your specs, you'd be amazed how many times you think: "DAMN!!! if only I had 2 more spec points!"
 

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Solari said:
These days it's probably better to start from 0 and autotrain for those extra points, they do make a huge diffrence in your specs, you'd be amazed how many times you think: "DAMN!!! if only I had 2 more spec points!"

asssch just cut down on the stealth.. i got 28+18 stealth ;p
 

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Lol melee ranger post and all u talk about is ure lowbie bow spec :(
 

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Punishment said:
Lol melee ranger post and all u talk about is ure lowbie bow spec :(
gr8 innit, just go 50bow OR make a ns/bm!
all this meleeranger crap is getting boring :x
 

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Spamb0t said:
gr8 innit, just go 50bow OR make a ns/bm!
all this meleeranger crap is getting boring :x


yea mate and get yer arse handed to u every three minutes OR sit in a tower and ....
Humm let me see i wonder what spec i would go for?? :D
 

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tierk said:
yea mate and get yer arse handed to u every three minutes OR sit in a tower and ....
Humm let me see i wonder what spec i would go for?? :D

My PoV is that a Celt melee Ranger would be a completely different animal to my shade ... more reliant on toys and ra's like Purge2 Ip2 but maybe more fun to play ?
 

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Punishment said:
My PoV is that a Celt melee Ranger would be a completely different animal to my shade ... more reliant on toys and ra's like Purge2 Ip2 but maybe more fun to play ?

rolling a ns myself and in process of sorting out template etc. Rangers are a lot of fun and i am sure u will enjoy it, just, for the love of god dont go 50 bow.
 

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tierk said:
rolling a ns myself and in process of sorting out template etc. Rangers are a lot of fun and i am sure u will enjoy it, just, for the love of god dont go 50 bow.

Hehe she is 50 bow atm :D

But knowing that u need rr7 (Imo Purge2/Ignore Pain2/ Mastery of Stealth3/ Mastery of Pain3 / Aug Str3 ) for a decent Ranger ra spec kinda puts me off ... that being said i can do my best and climb the ladder :D
 

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Catch me ingame and we can have a chat about the fotm melee rangers ^_^
 

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ok ok ok ok ok ....
45+ bow atleast !!

have they fixed the dmgadd so it works good on range btw?
last when i played and were 50bow 48pf, that dmgadd hit for like +5dmg at max range :x
 

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Spamb0t said:
ok ok ok ok ok ....
45+ bow atleast !!

have they fixed the dmgadd so it works good on range btw?
last when i played and were 50bow 48pf, that dmgadd hit for like +5dmg at max range :x

dmg add is fixxed ... but bow dmg i crap stilll... never ever not going to specc over 35 bow
 

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Solari said:
/level 20 will count as not autotraining.
This however will enable your class not to train the 12 bow giving you the full amount of skillpoints. (Non autotrained)

I'm unsure if a /respec all will train the 12 bow.

It wont, my ranger is 31 Stealth, 32 Blades, 50 Celtic Dual, 36 Pathfinding 1 Bow, 18 untrained points.
 

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ive been ever spec there now and melee is by far the best and the most fun to play as a ranger .

Tower humping is over now due to towers being trebed down in 5 mins so no need for snipers any more .

35 bow is nice and i say go this spec until you hit RR5 .

Once RR5 change to melee ranger , you should have enough realm points now for some nice tools and being a melee ranger is all about tools and timers :( .

All these peeps saying go high bow just dont listen to them , i have 6 bow and i still hitt for 250-300 dmg and once the albs-mids get to me they are down to 50-60% then they are brown bread once i hitt combat .

im 50 + 17 CD - 34 + 17 BLADES and this works well for me .

Like i say melee ranger is alot of fun and going blades is so much better then pierce now since the patch .
 

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Those that says rangers does get 12 into bow whatever you try to do, are so wrong, want proof? just PM me ingame on Spector and i'll send you a screenshot! (got 5 in bow)
 

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OkOk ... My heart is set on Full melee but i have a question for all u high rr Melee ranger's out there ( That includes u Censi <3 )

Say im RR4 and my spec is something like ...

36+14 Blades
36+14 Steath
50+14 Celtic Dual
21 Pathfinding
12< Recurve Bow

When i Ding RR5 do i ...

A) Spec 51 Composite Blades and Use my spare points @ each RR thereafter from needing less specced in Blades/Stealth (keeping51/50 composite respectively) into Pathfinding for higher dps dmg add

Or...

B) Spec 50 composite stealth stay @ 21 pathfinding/12 Recurve and dump extra points into getting Blades as high as possible therefore >51 composite spec ?

I guess my main question is this ... Will a rr7-9 Ranger with around 55-60 composite mainhand and 50+rr cd and 21 pf(4.2 dps dmg add) hit harder than a 51 Composite rr7-9 ranger with 50+rr cd and like 35-40 pf with a higher dps dmg shield ???

Ok i may be reading abit too much into this but if im only using Cd styles which is best and which will hit hardest over time ?
 

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Dreadclaw said:
Those that says rangers does get 12 into bow whatever you try to do, are so wrong, want proof? just PM me ingame on Spector and i'll send you a screenshot! (got 5 in bow)

Maybe you didn't read the info in this thread through

As for punish go for option a)

If you use cd styles, a combined 50/51 weaponspec is enough. Only Supernova checks your weaponspec for damage but it's not really worth the points invested.
 

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Punishment said:
I guess my main question is this ... Will a rr7-9 Ranger with around 55-60 composite mainhand and 50+rr cd and 21 pf(4.2 dps dmg add) hit harder than a 51 Composite rr7-9 ranger with 50+rr cd and like 35-40 pf with a higher dps dmg shield ???
welll according to that wyrdshit higher then 51blade shouldnt give any dmgincrease if u use cd styles




but dont go meleeranger go bow all the way ;-)
 

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