Mediums

[Lamp]

My grandmother died a month ago. Her name was Marie (pronouned Mar-ree).

My brother in law went to a medium to see for himself what its all about. He's skeptical / cynical. But he kept an open mind. He never met the medium before. She never met him. He told her no information.

She told him
- There's someone called Marie here (pronounced correctly)
- She died recently (correct too)
- She's on the otherside of the family (also correct)
- She was deeply loved by her two sons (correct again)

I used to thing mediums were a load of bollocks. Now I am starting to really consider things differently. Ghosts and the afterlife n all that.

Gonna go see one for myself in a few weeks.

Anyone else experienced a medium ?

 

[tris-]

i watched derren brown : messiah. he isnt a psychic but trained him self on what mediums do. so he went to america, got in a random audience and did a reading. result is that with the skills he had learnt, he could tell someone everything about their dead friend/relative. and i mean everything.
the 'reading' he did was more in depth than a normal medium would do.
there was also a self proclaimed medium watchin it all, she had no idea who he was. at the end, she said he has powers.

according to him he has no powers that are psychic.

the book he read was written by mediums letting the truth out and showing how easy it really is. at the end of the day its about telling someone what they want to hear and in such a way that they will also believe it and adapt it to their own circumstance.

i suppose once you get sucked in, and start paying money, you will find it hard to accept its not exactly as it seems. that was partly his point aswell.

 

[Lamp]

But how did the medium my brother-in-law went to see get the name of my grandmother correctly. Out of all the names she could have chosen how on earth did she guess it ? The medium didn't have to say her name. But she did.

 

[tris-]

neither did derren brown in the documentary but every detail about the person he would say and the person would be nodding along. btw, he didnt hypnotise them or anything like that. he simply used the skills a medium claims to be super natural and got every detail correct.

he could even get nicknames of the deceased correct. and nicknames the deceased used to call the person etc. things you cant guess, but it takes mad skills. i dont know how he did it. he just said "the books are there if you want to find them". but he did do it.

 

[DocWolfe]

I went to see Derek Acorah live in Newcastle, I was pretty impressed tbh, but until it happens to me I wont beleive it.

 

[Tasslehoff]

neither did derren brown in the documentary but every detail about the person he would say and the person would be nodding along. btw, he didnt hypnotise them or anything like that. he simply used the skills a medium claims to be super natural and got every detail correct.

he could even get nicknames of the deceased correct. and nicknames the deceased used to call the person etc. things you cant guess, but it takes mad skills. i dont know how he did it. he just said "the books are there if you want to find them". but he did do it.

Yeah, don't be sceptical towards the movie! It's 100% correct.
Be sceptical towards the mediums, they are liars!

Hypocrisy?

 

[tris-]

movie? it was a documentary on him making people believe what he wanted them to believe. he did more than just the medium stuff.

 

[Lamp]

If you - YOU PERSONALLY - went to a medium and they told you stuff that they couldn't possibly know - would they still be liars ? If so, fair enough, but is then nothing short of dying and coming back is going to change your beliefs ?

Me ? I like to keep an open mind. If some people don't, thats fine.

But as Shakespeare put it "There's more to heaven and earth...than is dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). I go along with this 100%.

It may be arrogant to assume that unless you can see it it doesn't exist. 500 years ago we didn't know about bacteria. Who knows. Maybe in 600 years time science or some other act of revellation will change the way humans see the world completely differently.

 

[tris-]

i dont doubt that they will be accurate. but imo its a viscious circle to get into if you keep going there. not only are you spending money for someone to tell you what you know, i also believe there is nothing supernatural about it after watching derren brown do this. he has no paranormal powers but could impress a famous medium so much she her self believed he was real.

She told him
- There's someone called Marie here (pronounced correctly)
- She died recently (correct too)
- She's on the otherside of the family (also correct)
- She was deeply loved by her two sons (correct again)

your brother already knew this, so im not sure why you would spend money to be told something you know already.

 

[Lamp]

your brother already knew this, so im not sure why you would spend money to be told something you know already.

It was my brother-in-law (my sisters' husand). He's not related to my grandmother (father's mother). He didn't go along for any specific purpose. He didn't say anything. She told him.

 

[tris-]

i understand that. but my point is, why pay someone to tell you what you already know?
that is what i dont understand.
and maybe they will say "this person is happy now" etc. there is no way to know if this is true or not is there?

 

[Lamp]

I don't know WHY he went TBH.

Why do people go to fortune tellers ?

Why do people read their stars in the papers. Now THEY are bollocks.

Mystic Meg. That witch. "You will meet a man with a head". Well f**k me, that was a revellation ! Some berk in the Sun keeps talking about meeting someone today whos the love of my life. I'm married ! What shite. Or "your money problems will resolve this week". I dont have money problems. I'm loaded. LOL

 

[Naffets]

I don't know where, i don't know when, but something bad is gunna happen!!!!!

 

[Lamp]

I don't know where, i don't know when, but something bad is gunna happen!!!!!

Shit dude ! your postcount has been zerod !!

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'd like to go to a medium, that knows what she's/he's doing, since everyone keeps telling me i got this deep dark 5% hidden inside me when they talk to me

Would like to know if there's this eviyl Seelie inside me too, like Teh Seel persona is the embodiment of all that is coocoo in me head.

Maybe there's the infamous Seh Teel...the evil one.

 

[Lamp]

Slightly off topic but love the bits in American Werewolf in London when he keeps bumping into his undead friend Jack !

I think not seeing the dead is better if that movie's anything to go by !

 

[Glittery_Princess]

My m8 got a psychic in her house in January to give me and 7 of my friends individual readings - he recorded them all on tapes so each of us could go home and listen again to the reading.

Absolutely everyone who got a reading from him were gobsmacked by how accurate he was - and looking back over the tape i am still amazed. He did my tarot cards too and predicted i'd get a new job - the day right after the reading i got a call asking me to go to an interview - and i got the job the week after.

He was really reassuring and he confirmed a lot of correct things in my life. It felt good at the end going away thinking about all this stuff that could happen to me this year.

Then again, Psychics arent allowed to tell u anything negative, so he could have easily seen that something terrible was going to happen to me but he wasnt allowed to say.

I believe in it - cant explain it tho.

Oh yeah - and my m8 has 2 persian house cats (they never get outside - the friendliest cats in the world) and as soon as the psychic walked into the livingroom the cats arched their backs and started hissing at him etc - so not like them!

 

[Zede]

Im my opinion its all complete and utter bollox, Derrin Brown, David Blaine...and you have to put them in the same catagory, Paul Daniels and David Copperfield.

One question to the poster, when you booked to see this medium, did you do just that book in before hand, ie, "Hi Mr Smith here, Id like to come to a reading please"



James Randi has offered $1,000,000 to anyone who can prove they are "psychic"

guess what.


nobody has come forward.

also see http://www.csicop.org/ Skeptical Enquirer has tested a few people who claim to possess "powers" all debunked.

 

[Ezteq]

I'm not inclined to believe or disbelive in it tbh no one can say for an absolout fact that its 100% true or false, i think its naieve to even try.

I do believe that there is more to life than meets the eye but if its that way its for a reason and im perfectly happy to let it be. I wouldnt go to a psychic for the simple reason that as Tris stated they only tell you stuff you already know (its a bit like going on one of those "guess your weight" stands at the fair) and also if someones gone over to the other side (if there is one) im sure they have other things to be doing than answering some questions from an annoying old woman with a hanky on her head.

 

[Dahakon]

I am quite amused how people are so ready to say that one group of people are fake, from evidence they saw on a TV show like Darren Brown. Now don't get me wrong, I love Darren Brown and think that he is amazing, but i still don't believe everythign that he does, cause in the end, it is all for TV and that means getting ratings.

To be more on topic, while i have never been to a medium, when i was younger i would see the ghost of my Great-Great Grandmother in my house, although this had faded by the time I was about 10. However recently a friend of the family who is "sensative" came to our house, and she also saw my Great-Great Grandmother, and if u knew this person you would KNow that they are no fake.

I am fully prepared that this could all be shit, and i could have imagined the whole thing or something, however i believe that there is more the world than just what our conventional sense show us.

 

[tris-]

and you are probably right. but when someone with no paranormal powers can do things, things that impress so called professionals into believing they are real... well it makes you think the whole scene isnt as savoury as people would have you believe.

 

[Eeben]

never been to a medium an dont really know if i should belive in it or not.. After watching darren brown an seen what he can do just by "reading" ppl i belive other ppl could do that also.. really a tricky question...

 

[Lamp]

Anything you see on TV can be faked. Entire audiences can be stooges.

Send Darren Brown round to my house. Just him on his own in a cab. If he can work his shit on my wife, summon the dead, etc I'll rep him

 

[tris-]

i think its naive to say the show must be staged

 

[Lamp]

i think its naive to say the show must be staged

Yeah. I take your point.

I can understand hypotism. Its not a gift. You can learn it. The ones on TV happen to be very adept at it.

The stuff I find impressive is where he opens the envelope and the drawing inside is pretty much exactly the same as the one the guests drew. Stuff like that. Is it just slight of hand ? Magic ? Extension of stage / street magic tricks ? All of David Blane's stuff has been exposed on the net. I dunno.
Maybe they're all masters of distraction, sleight of hand, and have the gift of the gab...

 

[Kaun_IA]

if u make a appointemt to see the psychic, u usually give them ur name.

if ur name is not like John Smith or something like that. its really easy to find info about ur self and ur family on the net. thats why u usually have a long wait to see the dude ... so they can find stuff.... but yeah, some things can be creepy. like nicknames.... some ppl are ofc called by theyr nickname all the time so thats not hard to find, but when it comes to a nickname that was rare used.... creepy im 100% sure it can be explained how they get the inf. takes skills to find inf like that.

I, myself, dont belive in the supernatural stuff....like ghots(sp!), meduims and etc

 

[tris-]

as well as stage shows, d.brown does documentarys to show how easy it is for someone to be a fraud etc. its all about being able to make someone do what you want them to, some how.
my friend has been to one of his shows and seen it all happen.

http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/news/messiah

 

[Lamp]

if u make a appointemt to see the psychic, u usually give them ur name.

So give them a made up name. Like John Smith. If they're genuine then the name you give shouldn't matter.

 

[Lamp]

as well as stage shows, d.brown does documentarys to show how easy it is for someone to be a fraud etc. its all about being able to make someone do what you want them to, some how.
my friend has been to one of his shows and seen it all happen.

http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/news/messiah

Given what my brother-in-law related to me, I'm not convinced that he unwittingly gave her the information she needed. My brother-in-law is a surgeon. He's not stupid or gullible. Somehow this medium told him something she couldn't possibly know.

 

[Kaun_IA]

So give them a made up name. Like John Smith. If they're genuine then the name you give shouldn't matter.

in that case they would know u lied about ur name....