MD or MP3

[old.frankie]

just starting a decnt worth while thread
carry on...

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DR_FRANKENSTIEN

 

[old.Davehart]

I think MP3.

Lets face it you dont have to buy CD's much anymore as you can get the music from barious *sites* for nothing.

MP3 is the only way you can get em from a computer to a movabout form.

Minidiscs are a bit overpriced and there aint much in the form of variety with em.

MP3 is the winner.

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Dave@drivez.freeserve.co.uk

 

[old.TUG]

Me agrees. I have a MD and have done for a while, but I simply don't use it any more so am considering selling it. I often get mp3's and just the other day got a coupla wikkid CD's full of me bangin ch000000000000nz Seeing as I link me PC to stereo (using the input port me MD used to use before I unplugged it) it all sounds schweet as.

MP3 - 2
MD - 0

 

[old.[MOD]Psycho]

I must say I prefure MD players, that way you can put all your fav music on one MD or several, MP3 players you can't, gotta store a limited amount on it.

 

[old.Davehart]

You can edit an MP3 track on a computer remember to. Plus you dont have to worry about carry a load of boxes for your mini discs around, with MP3 you just carry the player.

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[old.Kez]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Davehart:
You can edit an MP3 track on a computer remember to. Plus you dont have to worry about carry a load of boxes for your mini discs around, with MP3 you just carry the player.

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And a laptop should you want to change music

Yes, I do have an mp3 player, yes, it does rock, but only has 32mb

 

[Sock-Stuff]

Erm i would like to point out that you can record mp3s on MD...
Just plug the MD into your sound cars headphone socket and bob your uncle.....u get the best of both worlds.

MD the winner...EASY!

 

[old.[GA] Shovel]

Definately MD, I can get good quality MP3 onto it even from my £20 soundcard )) its l33t.

The fatc is anyway, AT THE MOMENT - the limit of 32/48/64 MB of memory in the MP3 players is pants as you can only get about a single CD onto them.
MD, you can interchange with now problems.
Yes, larger MP3s are on the way, but they wont be cheap, atm the price of RAM in them is far too much to make 100/200 MB machines totally impossible, which is what it would take to get me to support it over MD.

Yes, they are cheaper than most MDs, but then MD takes as much music as you want.

No competition at the mo, but MP3 will be the winner in a few years time once much bigger sizes are available.

 

[old.frankie]

Yeah, i have a good MD player/recorder, true it is quite a bit bigger, and heavier, but the quality is better.

74 minutes of cd quality music for MD or about 30 minutes for a 32 meg mp3 player. A m8 got an mp3 player, the riopmp300 and after a while he hates it, hes spent 200 quid on em cards, but still cant fit all he wants on it, thats why hes selling it. If ya aint going away from your computer EVER and want to play your MP3s then get a mp3 player as you can add, remove them quickly. If you are going out for a day, or have a car then you really should have a MD player unless you have 600 quid to spend on about 3 64 mb mem cards. ( thats about 8 quid in MD's )

Tis the truth.

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[old.TUG]

Well me woz on bout like me home system

When I get another car I'll have to choose CD or MD, but I carn burn woteva choons onto CD as well as MD... so I spose I'll end up with a CD headunit...

I don't like personal players, I lose/break em

 

[Embattle]

If you've got a good ear you'll be able to tell the sound quality difference between MD & MP3.

I'd go MD, then again I've got one already .

 

[old.TUG]

Me too so ner. Now I is off to play wid me 14 yr old bird, seeya

 

[old.MeddlE]

I didn't realise that budgies could live that long TUG!

 

[old.TUG]

Oh har har... hehe

 

[stu]

Neither. Both MP3 and MD are for poor gypsy children who are too deaf/stupid to tell the difference between real hi fi and 'noise'. Probably because on their crap Aiwa Mini Systems with "X-MEGA Bass" it sounds abysmal, whatever the source is.

Discuss

 

[kryt]

Loooooooooooooooooorl!
*giggle*
Tis true tho. Stick to original CD's and a decent head unit fer yer car :]
personally, about 3 month ago i hooked up a philips-marantz system up to some high end Mission speakers - was kitted with MD and CD player - and its quite a lot easier to tell the difference between those two on a proper mans system. That system does retail for 3999.99 tho, so u'd have to be a bloody rich bloke at that :]
Turn the vol up on yer hifi, thats when you hear the distortion of yer aiwa's, sony's and pioneer cheapshits. However, those cheapshits are going to have to be lived with for now until we win the lottery or somthing. :]

[Cw.F]Kryten

 

[Xavier]

£2.50 sony premium minidisc - 74 minutes...

£lots 64Mb compactflash/solidstate for mp3 player...

no competition

X

 

[old.MeddlE]

I have a proper system thanks and it's true, CD is better, lots better. But, I think you'll find this is a discussion/comparison between MD and MP3, so get a life fuckwit.

Oh, and Missions suck, I know as I have a pair that have been relegated to cinema rears. Nice sound as long as you don't want too much volume. Only any good if you believe what they write in What HiFi magazine.

There, I think my rant is over, so flame away.

 

[kryt]

ahem. Meddle - dont call me a fuckwit, i do think i know what i am trying to get across.
Like i said - High end missions - not the bog standard shit. I know missions arent the best - and for your info, i dont and have no intention of reading What Hi-Fi or any other related magazine. Missions are however fuckloads better then the average bass heavy Wharfedale efforts, much better then any shit Sony, Pioneer or Technics can try and pump out. Its just not my fault i didnt have a pair of fucking expensive B&W to hand, my shop is only a small company. I am aware of the topic, MrMeddle, but i think you will find, fuckwit, is that i was agreeing with Stu-. Mp3 is a relativly new technology that is just started to branch out into portable audio, but its nowhere near a match for MD, which is not a match for CD. And cd players are cheaper, cd writers (the pc ones anyway) are cheaper then MD recorders, and you can get portable CD players easily enough, CD head units are extremely easy to purchase for prices that are not massively out of reach unlike some of the MD systems.

Meddle, i suggest you dont try insulting those with knowledge far outstretching your own, i have many more contacts then you may think of. (/me puts a fork through his wharedale valdus 400's)

And for the record, *ahem* Fuckwit, Ohh yes you are.....

[Cw.F]Kryten

 

[old.frankie]

u two been at war long ?

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[old.TUG]

These 2 are older than me and exor, they should know better

Nowt up with mission speakers either... yea, maybe not the best, but certainly not the worst. Me m8 has some ickle ones (I forget the model number as I aint read much on hifi for a coupla years, something like 731's though) and for what they are, they are crisp little blighters.

Gotta face it - everyone has different ears, different tastes. People buy what they like, so wtf is the point in arguin bout which speakers are the l33+3$+?

I have a 15" warfedale sub BTW

 

[stu]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>But, I think you'll find this is a discussion/comparison between MD and MP3, so get a life fuckwit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, but the discussion has about as much point to it as "which is better, a Ford Sierra or a Vauxhall Cavalier?" Neither. They're both shite. There's no need to be abusive.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Oh, and Missions suck, I know as I have a pair that have been relegated to cinema rears. Nice sound as long as you don't want too much volume. Only any good if you believe what they write in What HiFi magazine.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Decent floorstanding Missions (ie not crap cheap ones) are widely acknowledged amongst the audiophile community as being excellent speakers at volume, with plenty of even, clean bass. Regardless, hi fi is very much about personal taste, what sounds good to one person sounds bad to another. Bodhi, for example, has a Marantz KI Sig setup, which to him sounds fantastic, but to me sounds rank: but then, my Arcam setup will probably sound horrible to him.

Point is, how you can pretend to know about hi fi, and then 1) stick up for appallingly inferior formats and 2) display such utter lack of knowledge about hi fi kit, astounds me.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Its just not my fault i didnt have a pair of fucking expensive B&W to hand<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I do

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Meddle, i suggest you dont try insulting those with knowledge far outstretching your own<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think that covers it

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Gotta face it - everyone has different ears, different tastes. People buy what they like, so wtf is the point in arguin bout which speakers are the l33+3$+?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That was my point TUG. Arguing which speaker is best is pointless, but it wasn't an argument I started. I was merely commenting on the scientifically proven inferiority of MD and MP3 as music formats.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I have a 15" warfedale sub BTW<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My commiserations

[This message has been edited by Stu- (edited 04 May 2000).]

 

[old.TUG]

Heh It was only 30 notes brand new. I brought it with the intension of selling it on for double seeing as the warfedale webby listed it @ 120 inc vat.

If I couldn't sell it I was gonna put it in me nova, but the speaker itself was too big Nevermind with it in an enclosure... plus I ain't got a car no more

So, one sub for sale still innit

 

[old.MeddlE]

I just don't know where to start.

First off, apologies all round. I was in a pissy mood when I posted and stepped over the line. Christ, I was ashamed whe I reread that post tonight. Who did I think I was, *Exor*?

Secondly, Kryten, I do know Hi-Fi, so don't fall foul of your own statements. You don't know what I know and vice versa.

Thirdly, yes TUG, we (definitely I) should know better.

Fourthly (?), I stand by the statement on Missions. The build quality is very poor. The review samples for the magazines may be great, but what you get at home isn't the same thing. I wouldn't mind a pair of the 753f Freedoms though, as they appear to be the last well built Mission speaker. The new B&W floorstanders are very tempting but also hog a lot of floor space, still, if I move everything aound......

Fifthly (??), Marantz KI sig, heard it, didn't like it, wonder how it got unanimous glowing reviews. I have spoken to quite a few people who agree, and also to some who love it, but would say the split is 50/50. Personally, my replacement amp/CD combo will be Musical Fidelity A3 range. My mates Arcam sounds nice but looks cheaper than an Aiwa. Go figure.

Much more relaxed tonight, I'm sure you'll all agree.

[This message has been edited by MeddlE (edited 04 May 2000).]

 

[kryt]

/me yawns, boring solution

"different ears different tastes" well tbh i cant really say fairer then that, because its just true. I have extremely acute hearing and im lucky to be able to pick out minute details in speaker quality. Others may be deaf as doorposts, or just have thicker aural hair, muffling sounds as they please. Lots of stuff out there, lots of people like different things - i mean some people out their think their Xr3i's are the mutts nutts etc, with all the blu-tak-on cossie style shark spoliers, some people prefer fucking great yankee sizes mercs, some prefer mgfs (lo exor), some prefer big fat TVR's *vrrooooooooom*

i personally love dance music and the associated bass. Stu, unless im mistaken prefers the all round quality of the sound he gets, and thinks bass spoils the song. Everyone has different perceptions of what is right, and i think ive been political enough for tonight thank you velly velly much sir.

Ps : Meddle, apology accepted mate, &lt; /me just strolled in from work, its half past 1 am, and im looking forward to a FAT wagepacket :]

[Cw.F]Kryten

 

[stu]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Marantz KI sig, heard it, didn't like it, wonder how it got unanimous glowing reviews.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Indeed, far too bright for me. The amp/cd player combo I listened to had absolutely stunning vocals (best I've heard this side of a Wadia), unfortunately they were so crisp and clear you barely heard the music behind it.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>My mates Arcam sounds nice but looks cheaper than an Aiwa. Go figure.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Unfortunately true, but there is actually a very good reason. You can upgrade Arcam kit through the range, by swapping boards in and out. So the design had to stay the same. Even so, you seen the new FMJ stuff they've come up with? Yum

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The new B&W floorstanders are very tempting but also hog a lot of floor space, still, if I move everything aound......
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OMG you heard the new Nautilus? I heard a properly run in pair, and seriously thought about selling my telly to get some. They're incredible. They do thake a RIDICULOUS amount of time to run in though, like, 2/3 months, and they sound rank at first. Nautilus actually has a pretty small footprint compaired to most floorstanders.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Stu, unless im mistaken prefers the all round quality of the sound he gets, and thinks bass spoils the song.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bass has its place... otherwise I wouldn't love Massive Attack so much. But it has to be tight, clean, and not "p0mping". But you're right: mid range all the way for me

 

[kryt]

"p0mping" lol man :]

anyway what the SMEG is BW doing advertising Playstation Gypsy Game Shit in the banners :|

[Cw.F]Kryten

 

[stu]

That's nothing... don't you remember that godawful Dreamcast banner that used to run on here? Was Realplayer, and it used to just totally screw up the board for me every time it loaded. Was two complete gimps (games journos) in an office talking about how 3r33t Dreamcast was (like "Dreamcast... it's got a modem!" yeah cheers)