LVL 50 Str cap

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Arthwyr

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Hi, just wondering what the str cap is on different classes/races in Doac at lvl 50.

My lvl 50 paladin/Britton is capped at 160 unbuffed and it seems rediculously low for a tank class.
 
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Tank Init

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firblog hero 145 str unbuffed no items can max at 153 if u put all starting points into it

90 str to start with + 10 initial points at start up + 45 from leveling

with items + 75 = 220

if that what u meant
 
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old.Saborion

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That mean that you put 10 points into STR.
It works like this:
items = 1.5*char lvl
double buffs (shaman in midgard) = 1.5*char lvl
single buffs = char lvl

So you started with 60 STR, invested 10 points into it for 70 total. At lvl 50 you have 85, cap at 160 with items. 235 with double buffs, 285 with max buffs.
 
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katt!

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cap at 50 is BASE + 200.
75 from spec buffs
75 from items
50 from base buffs.
 
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old.Yoshiki

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Stat caps

it's clear in patch release that the stat cap for every stat at lvl 50 is 200, tho you cna raise it to 350 with items, max i ever gor was 340 tho Oo (we need + buffing clerics :D)
 
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Eleasias

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Originally posted by Arthwyr

My lvl 50 paladin/Britton is capped at 160 unbuffed and it seems rediculously low for a tank class.
ROFL my ranger has 190 str with self buff ^^
 
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Khalen

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Well I'm a Briton too and I get 190 Str. Maybe it has to do with the class as well?
 
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Hatjitjai

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well

Higlander armsman : +10str at start of the char will have 125str at level 50,when naked without items or armor

Higlander paladin with same starting stats has 95 str if im not mistaking at lvl 50..mine is capped with items at 170

guess briton has -10 if u compare to highlander
 
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Hatjitjai

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ow hm btw

paladin = con,piety(WTF!!),str

+1 each level,+1 each 2 levels,+1 each 3 levels

Armsman = str,con,dex
 
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- Pathfinder -

Guest
Aye, Mythic wanted paladins nerfed bad (as they were so incredibly uber to begin with :p).
 
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Khalen

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Re: ow hm btw

Originally posted by Hatjitjai
paladin = con,piety(WTF!!),str

+1 each level,+1 each 2 levels,+1 each 3 levels

Armsman = str,con,dex

Hmmm weird and still paladins have less HP then an armsman?
 
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Novamir

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with all items (not buffs) at 50, my STR is 190, and CON is 168. both of those are capped.
 
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tilde

Guest
mine's at 163str
my constitution is 191 and ive got around 1400hp, see the logic with high const = high hp? i dont ;)
 
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old.Max Payne

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My strenght is capped on 250, don't get more with items :(

Shamanbuff = 310 strenght so yummie :)
 
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Aeiedil

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does anyone know the formulas for all stat caps? atm ive got quickness capped at 177, but i dunno my primary caps

(i think Primary dex Sec qui ter str, sommit like that)
 
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old.Aragone

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hmm.

ime at lvl 47 and my str is caped at 212 ime also a firby...
 
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Flimgoblin

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primary stat:
start+45
secondary:
start+23
tertiary:
start+15

(so 105/83/75 + racial bonuses/penalties +starting stat points)

items +75
base buffs +75
spec buffs +50

(might be other way around with buffs)

so your max is 305+racial modifier if you get all the items and buffs.

So 338 strength for a highlander armsman/merc (if you put 18 into str at the start), 363 strength for a troll.
 
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Tank Init

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maybe the armsman got a lot of plus hit point items and u got none it aint mythic that sucks it joo
 
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Khalen

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Originally posted by al13n8
maybe the armsman got a lot of plus hit point items and u got none it aint mythic that sucks it joo

Oh I thought paladins mostly wear the same plate? Tank items? etc....

My con. max is 163. I find this just ridiculous. I keep asking myself why do I even have items with +con and +str (what can be found on a lot of plate pieces) when the max is already reached with just 2 to 3 items...
 
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- Pathfinder -

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Heh havn't you people realised Paladins are on a lower HP table than armsmen? Just as thanes have lower HP than Warriors, you have lower than armsmen.

Secondly, getting 368 str would be quite a feat; last time I looked individual stats are hard capped at 350.
 
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Hatjitjai

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lol

maybe the armsman got a lot of plus hit point items and u got none it aint mythic that sucks it joo
--> HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA <--

I HAVE 200CON = 1500hp

my friend lvl 50 highlander armsman = 170 con = 17xx hp

so how many + hp items must he have to make up 30con points ?

mythic sucks...post replies like yours sucks even more(didnt think it was possible)
 
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Khalen

Guest
I have 163 con unbuffed, and gives me (with my current outfit and items) 1468 HP.
 
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Aeiedil

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Hatjitjai try reading again :p you are on a different hp table, meaning because of abilities paladins get less hp that tanks in the same way you would expect a caster with buffed con to have 1700 hp :p
 
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Graknak

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Some useless little info here and this time i'm right :D

So the only way to reach the 350 cap is to play Troll(Tank class) and add at least +5 to basic str OR Firbolg(Tank class) and add at least +15 str (which is 20 of 30 points).

For a Troll with +5 str it would mean 100 +5 +45 (of all lvl's) = 150
150+200 =350
For Firbolg with +15 str it would be 90 +15 +45 (of all lvl's) = 150
150+200 =350

Conlusion: No other races have a starting stat of 87+ so Only Hib Firbolg and Mid Troll Tanks are able to hit this cap and the only cap that can be hit is the Str cap.

p.s. i'm not using the realm abils yet so...

some basic facts: Basic max str is without items, buffs or any other enhancement. So a Briton with +10 in str would have a max basic str (@ lvl 50) of 115 and highlander with +10 str would have max basic str (@ lvl 50) of 125

to prove all my useless blabbering, here is a quote from Camelot Herald:
It's BAAAAACK - the Grab Bag
from Sanya Thomas
2002-06-21 19:43:21

Q: How exactly do the attribute caps work?

A: Three factors here, separate caps that stack with each other. Here’s how to calculate your caps:

1) Item bonuses = 1.5 times your level, rounded down.
2) Combo buffs (that buff two stats) = 1.5 times your level, rounded down.
3) Single buffs = your level

Add those three things, and that’s your stat cap. At level fifty, your cap is whatever your stat is plus 200. I am not entirely clear at this time how realm ability buffs calculate into this formula, and I’ll try to get that for next week, but the above is the basic formula.

and this one:

Originally posted by Hatjitjai
paladin = con,piety(WTF!!),str

+1 each level,+1 each 2 levels,+1 each 3 levels

Armsman = str,con,dex

thus for Armsman this would mean +45 str @lvl 50, +23 con (yup it's rounded up instead of rounded down) and +15 dex.

yeah, yeah, i know, this whole post of mine was a complete waste of time, but hey, someone has to do it :D
 
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Hatjitjai

Guest
yeahyeah i know

Hatjitjai try reading again :p you are on a different hp table, meaning because of abilities paladins get less hp that tanks in the same way you would expect a caster with buffed con to have 1700 hp :p

but still mythic s00ks! ;P
 
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starblade

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Originally posted by Hatjitjai
paladin = con,piety(WTF!!),str


Looks like I'm not the only one asking what the hell I do with all that piety. With my items on, I even equal-piety some clerics (yea, they allready have them items so I keep em for other stats) but do not seem to notice any difference :mad:
Been reading around but found no answer yet as to why it is secondary stat.
 
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- Pathfinder -

Guest
There is no point; it only means it takes more time for the paladin to recover after rezzing people (Ie more PIE GIMPS your paladin; this is actually amusing :p). There are several classes with idiotic stats, friars (Str) and bards (Emp) immediately presents themselves. Why Mythic did this noone knows, and we might not want to know their obscure reasons :)

And for those of you who seem to want paladins on pair with Armsman HP; a class without any magical abilites does need a few advantages, fellows :p
 
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starblade

Guest
And for those of you who seem to want paladins on pair with Armsman HP

Don't care bout HP, I just want that X bow :)
Just given some lively examples of 'pulling ; the paladin way' earlier this week a few times to great amusement of my friends :cool:
 
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Flimgoblin

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Originally posted by - Pathfinder -
Heh havn't you people realised Paladins are on a lower HP table than armsmen? Just as thanes have lower HP than Warriors, you have lower than armsmen.

Secondly, getting 368 str would be quite a feat; last time I looked individual stats are hard capped at 350.

Dya have some data on that?
368 would be a troll with 18 into his strength to begin with ...
(so your normal troll warrior with 10 strength would be 360 with all buffs spec buffs and items capped out, a highlander armsman would be 340)

I've no idea what the actual formulas are - just quoting numbers that people seem to think are the real ones.... so it'd be nice to get some confirmation/proof that it's not that way.
 

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