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Embattle

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I've had an SMC Barricade Wireless Router for some time now but decided a change was due, this was partly down to the fact I think my SMC has started to under perform but also so I could support the newer 54g wireless technology at a future date.

I ended up purchasing the new Belkin 54g Wireless DSL/Cable Gateway Router, which can be bought for as low as £100 from places like dabs.com which isn't bad considering the 54g support. Generally routers have come down in price due to the proliferation of broadband and home networking.

SMC Router

My SMC router is a solid bit of kit with a metal base section and it includes 3 10/100 ports on the back and a WAN port which is used to connect the Cable Modem. Another three ports are located along the back including a Printer port for print server duties, Com port and a power port.

Two aerials are also located at either end of the device with a little reset button situated next to one of them. On the front are a number of LED lights showing power, link, WAN, etc.

The device has the following basic features:

Built-in NAT firewall security
Internet access for up to 252 PCs
Wireless operation at 11, 5.5, 2, or 1Mbps
Wireless operating range of up to 304 metres
Connects to a cable/xDSL modem, dial-up modem, or Ethernet
3-Port 10/100Mbps switch versatility plus one port for WAN connection
Web-based utilities allow configuration through any networked PC’s Web browser.

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The web based management can be accessed via a browser using the Routers ip and then entering a password, if you have Windows XP you can access it via Upnp. The interface is rather ugly and while it covers most areas it does get a little confusing if you've never used a router before although some help is provided from a intergrated help system.

Belkin Router

The Belkin router looks the business with its slightly less brutal lines but isn't as robust as the SMC router since it is entirely made out plastic. An advantage it does have over the SMC is that it comes with a stand that allows you to stand it vertically thus taking up less desk space.

Connectivity is also better on the networking front with 4 10/100 ports located on the back and a WAN port located just to the side of them, although it doesn't have a COM port for dial up duties or a printer port I find these no longer useful so the loss of them isn't worth worrying about.

The Belkin unit also has fewer LEDs, which again I consider no bad thing since at night my SMC used be like a junction with traffic lights whereas the Belkin is just a pedestrian crossing.

The specs:

NAT IP Address Sharing
SPI Firewall
Internet access for 253 Users (LAN), 32 (WLAN)
Integrated Parental Control
Intergrated 10/100 4 port Switch
Mac address filtering
Up to 54Mbps wireless operation
64/128 Bit WEP
Wireless operating range of up to 500 metres
Backward-compatibility with all 802.11b devices
Web-Based Advanced User Interface
VPN-Passtrough

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Much like the SMC router you can access it by entering the relevant ip address or via Upnp. Once you've logged on you get greeted by a status screen that shows lots of useful information such as Firmware version, WAN IP, subnet, Gateway, DNS, etc, etc. The interface is split into 5 sections including LAN, Internet/WAN, Wireless, Firewall and Utilities all of which cover the setting up of the various features. A bonus is that each one has a more info section describing what it does. Firmware updates can be made easier as the Router can check for updates and notify you when you login to the router. As whole the management page is layed out better and has more features than the SMC one, this is always a plus for those that like to fiddle with settings ;)

The device offers the same performance using my old wireless Notebook cards, which is all I have at the moment, although getting a set of 54g Notebook cards would result in increased speed and range.

Just a quick look as this router but overall it is well worth getting if you need a wireless router, esp for its price.
 
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Jonty

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*Jonty feels he must have infected Embattle with the desire to right long, thorough posts* :D

Cool kit :)

Kind Regards
 
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Xavier

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Personally I much prefer the Linksys WRT-54g (even if young Ted was flummoxed by it's interface, heh) - it's got all of the key features of the Belkin plus a Dynamic DNS host client (compatible with hosts such as DynDNS) and less issues with VPN.
 
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Embattle

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Originally posted by Jonty
*Jonty feels he must have infected Embattle with the desire to right long, thorough posts* :D

Cool kit :)

Kind Regards

Not quite, I would of provided a image of every management page ;)
 
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Jonty

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Originally posted by Embattle
Not quite, I would of provided a image of every management page ;)
True :p And breakdowns of the different models available for the next year and a bit, to allow easy feature comparisons :D

All sounds rather complicated, but both Intel, Apple and others seem to be pushing the 'g' standard.

Kind Regards
 
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Embattle

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The g stand offers quite a good increase over the b standard in terms of speed, 54mbps vs 11mbps. The real problem of wireless is when people try to figure have far it will reach, well this is a question that has many answers and most depend on the distance, how many walls and what they're made of although I can say that from some experience the 54g does offer a good increase on range.
 
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PR.

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I recently replaced my SMC Wireless Barricade (11mb) with a Linksys WRT54G it has a slightly stronger signal as the whole house has WLAN now when the far end didn't get a dependable signal with the SMC. I also ended up getting a 54g PCI Card for the PC downstairs the speed was clearly noticable when transferring the larger files from machine to machine.

The 2 main problems I have with the WRT54G how ever are its dodgy 11b compatibility and the lack of a firewall.

When I tried to connect my iPAQ 5450 to it while the router was in compatibility mode it would not connect at all. It ended up with me having to save and edit one of the Linksys's web pages to include the option to enable only 11b and no 11g. the PCI card downstairs automatically adjusted and my iPAQ now connects fine. The firewall was advertised but Linksys have said it will come in a future firmware release.

Right now I have:
  • 2 PC's connected via LAN
  • iPAQ 5450 via wireless
  • Playstation2 via wireless (using Linksys WET11 wireless bridge)
  • 2 Laptops via wireless
  • 1 54g enabled Desktop via wireless

And while the router is forced into 11b mode only I have had no problems, not even needed to reboot it.

I would like my Firewall and a working 11g soon though :(

I also don't have any encryption enabled as its difficult to enable on the iPAQ and causes more problems than its worth. I do have MAC filtering enabled but have left SSID broadcast enabled. I live in a cul-de-sac anyway so no one its going to be war driving past it.
 
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(Shovel)

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Out of interest, how much would you expect to pay to set up a G network for the following:

3x PCs
1x Cable Modem.

Erm, it's a three storey house too, there's one computer on each level, so we need some pretty good wall penetraction, since the cable model is hard wired on the ground floor.

The alternative is running a shit load of CAT5.... see my other thread.
 
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PR.

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Originally posted by (Shovel)
Out of interest, how much would you expect to pay to set up a G network for the following:

3x PCs
1x Cable Modem.

Erm, it's a three storey house too, there's one computer on each level, so we need some pretty good wall penetraction, since the cable model is hard wired on the ground floor.

The alternative is running a shit load of CAT5.... see my other thread.

What about this? - £219 for Linksys wireless router 11g and 2 11g PCI cards

You would have ground floor PC connected with cable to the wireless router then the two PC's on the 1st and 2nd floors with the extra PCI cards. I don't know if they are the cheapest site, it was the site I used when I got mine as they had stock and offered next day delivery.

As for signal quality, it depends on your house, if its some spanish villa with concrete floors on every level then it probably won't reach but if you have wood floors then it might be ok. I can't really offer much advice on signals only that electrical items like microwaves can affect performance and interfere with the signal
 
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PR.

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PS. (Shovel) if you order wireless stuff online you are covered by the distance selling act, so you can set it all up and if you don't like it or the signal is not strong enough just return it you will usually have to pay postage though.
 
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Embattle

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Originally posted by GDW
i HAVE A BIG wiLLie

So big it blinds you :p

Naturally max range figures like 500 metres is a rating in an outside environment where no walls exist to block the signal and were the signal is towards the lower data rate of 1/2 mbps. I still reckon you'll be alright overall, although the device on the second floor will most probably not manage the 54mbps coneection with the router.
 
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Embattle

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Originally posted by PR.
I would like my Firewall and a working 11g soon though :(

A bit of a bastard that, its not as if firewalls are some new fangled technology.

Its nice to have an SPI firewall over the standard NAT firewall protection in my SMC router.
 

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