Look what TOA does to ppl

[Aamia]

I got this from SS alliance boards:

http://www.golala.com/forums/index.php?mforum=FT&showtopic=148

Kinda sad what a guild does out of greed, but then again, I never heard much good about AOR =/

 

[Aybabtu]

This have been discussed sooooooooooooooooooooooooo frikking many times and with the same conclusion....

People on these boards feel that NO BOBY can camp a artifact and claim it if it pops unless that person either have a group with him or can do the encounter himself...There is no stealing there, just tough luck.

How long did the guild group wait btw?

 

[Aamia]

just a few mins afaik, they totally didnt give em enough time!

 

[Aybabtu]

Where does it say they should?

CoC says you can't claim a camp/mob untill it is engaged in combat. So in any way it is not stealing, maybe a bit shitty towards their fellow gamers but not stealing.

 

[Aussie]

"you have 30secs or we will pull"

xDDDDDDDDD

 

[Pin]

3:23 - SoM pop
3:38 - AoR turn up
3:49 - AoR pull (thus waited 11 minutes on site)

so 26 minutes total after pop. how long is 'enough time' to get a group together (or even 5/6 people) ?

I don't see what AoR did wrong here, tbh.

 

[pbaz]

First indication of pop: http://www.gamepad.dk/pictures/misc/70.jpg
Time = 3:23:46pm

First indication of AoR pulling: http://www.gamepad.dk/pictures/misc/85.jpg
Time = 3:47:42pm

Time between pop and AoR pulling = 23 minutes 56 seconds.

Number of people from either of the "campers" guilds who showed up during that 20 minute window = Zero.

In my (unbiased) opinion, AoR were entirely within their rights to pull. They waited 10 minutes between arriving and pulling (we can get into hair-splitting about whether this was quite long enough or not - but I think most people will agree that after waiting 10 minutes and you still had no signs of your "group inc" that AoR were generous enough). You were simply unlucky that your guildmates had logged and, therefore, you had no-one show up to help (I don't understand why you continued to camp there once your guild had logged and you had no chance of completing the encounter alone).

When, when, when will people realise that camping a pop with insufficient numbers to complete the encounter is bad for your health?!

 

[Pin]

First indication of pop: http://www.gamepad.dk/pictures/misc/68.jpg
Time = 3:28:21pm

first pop on pic 70 - 3:23.. but same thing tbh

 

[pbaz]

Edited Nerf non-chronological posting of screenies imo.

 

[crispy]

First indication of pop: When, when, when will people realis...oup alble to get som to camp it for 7h :m00:

 

[Pin]

gl with getting a group alble to get som to camp it for 7h

necro+bb can do SoM, so really shouldn't be too tough


(but the point was - don't camp it then)

 

[Aybabtu]

gl with getting a group alble to get som to camp it for 7h

Or just do as AoR, get a group to roam different encounters and do those that are up

 

[pbaz]

gl with getting a group alble to get som to camp it for 7h

Spot on! I think it's impossible to do that.

I don't personally camp encounters - I believe it's bad for your health! I build a group and we roam across zones to see what encounters are up. If an encounter is up, we complete it. If an encounter is down, we move on.

I have never had any head-bursting stress from ToA because I don't sit staring at a pop-spot for 7 hours. Poor Jimmi could have avoided this extremely unpleasant experience (he's clearly really worked up and irate in the screenies and I can sympathise with that) by adopting this active "roaming" strategy rather than his passive "camping" strategy. It really is a million-times better for your mental health.

 

[Skaven]

Spot on! I think it's impossible to do that.

I don't personally camp encounters - I believe it's bad for your health! I build a group and we roam across zones to see what encounters are up. If an encounter is up, we complete it. If an encounter is down, we move on.

Yup, I learnt that the hard way. Same situation for another artifact, they ( ''they'' being someone else btw) basiclly said they didn't know if I had actually been there camping it for hours on end or not which is fair enough I guess. At the time obviously I was slightly upset after wasting all day.

As time go's on everyone will get the artifact they want, you just have to be patient. However the attitudes of mainly Yours and a bit of AOR's in that situation could of been better imo.

You could always do what I did and buy SoM from a cm, then just join a group for the credit.

 

[Ilienwyn]

Well, if you can't get people to help you in 20-30mins then don't go on and whine. It was a reasonable time or you wanted to take a few hours?

 

[Aadia]

Here's an idea 1st poster... plz change your name into something that ain't aamia...

since beginning of daoc i got the chars aadia and aamia and other variants of aa*ia (except for aalia and aaria - namenickers again)

just to avoid confusion by people

 

[Bracken]

3:23 - SoM pop
3:38 - AoR turn up
3:49 - AoR pull (thus waited 11 minutes on site)

so 26 minutes total after pop. how long is 'enough time' to get a group together (or even 5/6 people) ?

I don't see what AoR did wrong here, tbh.

Have to agree. Would have had more sympathy if you had a group buffing up all ready to pull and someone arrived and jumped in just before you pulled it, but really there was long enough to get a guild group that was "ready to go" to the spot.

 

[Quickfeet]

I would say camping that long and getting that worked up about a computer animated pixal formed piece of cloth is a good indication its time take a break. Yes people could be a bit nicer to each other in game but at the end of the day these artifacts arnt real so why put yourself tho so much stress over em.

 

[Aamia]

If u look at the screenies, he scrolled up to take screens of the text, which means he has had 10 mins or less to gather his group. That aint fair.

som popped 3:23 cet and the aor grp arrived at 3.28 and started pulling a few mins after. thats what it looks like 2 me

 

[Aamia]

to Aadia >

That is the name of my UO toon, I retired from DAoC in march a few weeks after ToA, because the game just wasn't fun anymore

 

[Evergrey]

Seriously people camp artifact encounters for 7 hours+ ? (lol). almost as long as a day of work...

 

[pbaz]

som popped 3:23 cet and the aor grp arrived at 3.28 and started pulling a few mins after. thats what it looks like 2 me

http://www.gamepad.dk/pictures/misc/85.jpg

There you see the first indication of AoR pulling - up in the game buffer you see "Tefcros was just killed by a greater criosphinx" (ie. Tefcros had just grabbed the cloak). Immediately following it you get some "Taking Screenshot" spam - indicating that the screenie was taken immediately after Tefcros died. I conclude that AoR pulled SoM at 3:47:42pm (give or take 20 seconds).

There isn't a single screenshot there with any AoR people in it with a time earlier than 3:38:58pm. I personally believe the screenshots show they pulled at 3:47:42pm. But even to humour you, if you want to use the earliest sign of AoR as their pull time, 16 minutes passed since the pop and there was no sign of help inc for the campers who had claimed the spawn. As I said before, we can split hairs as to whether this was "enough time" - but I think you'll find 99% of people here will agree it was ample.

Really time to stop flaming AoR as they have done nothing wrong, imo.

 

[Moo]

if u had spent the 7 hours farming cash youd have been able to buy som already, altho it dont change the fact that it was a pretty shitty thing to do, big thumbs down to AoR.

 

[Xplo]

gratz Tefcros on SoM!

 

[Aadia]

to Aadia >

That is the name of my UO toon, I retired from DAoC in march a few weeks after ToA, because the game just wasn't fun anymore

Then why didn't you make an account here with you DAoC name instead
It's really annoying tbh as alot of ppl already thought that it was me who posted this...

 

[Flimgoblin]

Then why didn't you make an account here with you DAoC name instead
It's really annoying tbh as alot of ppl already thought that it was me who posted this...

heh count me among them - confused!

 

[Thorondorito]

Aaaah the SoM artifact, one of the hardest to get (not the encounter hehe) due to campers + ready groups arriving suddenly to do it if u r not prepared.

I hope one day we all really realize that we are a realm and, because of the type of the server, a TEAM. The main problem of this realm is it's plagued of selfish people. And I know it happens too in mid/hib but if u check the WWW u see more threads of this kind into the alb section.

Just my 2 cents.

PS. Now flame me, i wont change my opinion.

 

[HerculesPluto]

whats the world coming to, what kind of fucking pricks are these ppl? regardless of how long it took the guild to get their friends to the spot those AOR ppl acted like total fucking twats, why dont you fuck off to mid where daoc is a way of life and not a GAME FOR FUN.

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

some say they did wrong some say they were within there rights.. i cba examining screenies for evidence ...

but IMO they were total and complete wankers the way they went about it . they didnt seem to have any intention imo judging by there attitude in chat to wait for them to get a group.

tossers imo . nuff said.

 

[NetNifty]

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Apocalypse Dudes

Oh come on, i'm not one to see the actions of one member of a guild to reflect on the actions of it but with this it kinda shows why people think of AD as the worst guild in alb (in regards to ethics).