lol @ Novamir

[old.Ebeneezer]

I saw you being chased by that big lizard wraith towards our invaders at Dun Crim - hoping to xp kill our boys and girls?

Well I hope you liked my root - I knew you were dying to meet that lizard

 

[Novamir]

lol the root didnt matter, i could have sprinted away, it was those runie DDs which hurt =/

but nice one for spotting me early i wish i had speed and some insta spell and i would have bought the drake to the doors easy

 

[herjulf]

heh nova, oh nova.
I wouldnt touch ya with a :touch: .

Lameness, pretty lame trying to exp kill them poor poor unsuspecting fellas.
Well i guess it is all in a Hibs day´s work.

Guess them Mids are to scary for a wee Hib.

Very cool Ebeneezer , very cool indeed. To bad, u should have gotten some sceenies of it all.

Edited hehe i was thinking of sumtin else
(Replaced the word Alb in 2 places.)

 

[Armolas]

Oh how cruel, I doubt you could say anything worse to Nova than mistaking him for an alb

 

[Karam_gruul]

lol @ novamir

lame

 

[old.EoO_Raphael]

As has been said many times when you step into the frontier you risk being XP killed. I do not think it is fair to call him lame it seems a rather good idea if you ask me.

 

[lofff]

np nova, next time my uberlvl18bard will give ya speed

long live tha "Hib DrakeTamers Team"

 

[Solarias--]

they were skald DDs not runie there was only me and Ebe there no runie

Just spoke with hibs in #celticfist and they actually agreed with u doing it..couldn't belive it...if albs or mids did anything like this they would get flamed to death

why can't u play properly in RvR instead of using every lame ass tactic u can think of...if u didn't have to rely on jumping into walls....pulling mobs onto people or trying to play along side other realms u might actually become quite a good realm...u do actually have sum of the best classes in the game imo..just wish u would use them properly

i agree with the fact that u can be killed when exp'g in frontiers but this is totally different actually PULLING a mob onto the opposing forces...takes the piss

 

[old.Ebeneezer]

I have no problem with his tactics - it's the frontiers so anything goes.

I also have no problem with Outlaw doing it at alb TK...much better to let the albs out to fight at mile gate than keep them in their keep all day...anything innovative to get ppl away from keeps is fair game.

Novamir took the risk and he died from the mob. For xps sake it's a good job he is lvl 50

BTW Novamir I hit you with disease (small snare) and poison too - wasn't just Solar's DDs that took u out...

 

[Karam_gruul]

No thats is really lame. really is. its almost worse than bug exploiting lol, its just a sign of weakness really, having to use NPCs to kill stuff, its basically the same as pulling guards (everyone knows how lame that is), except its just lamer because the mob will give people it kills exp/con loss. lame.

but then agin, these are hibs we're talking about, cant expect anything more i guess

 

[Eblessair]

lol
not lame

 

[old.Talivar]

Sorry im confused, Its ok to root some1 xping and let them die because its the frontier and if u dont want xp death u shouldnt be there but its lame to pull a mob to xp death some1.. Grow up all u idiot whiners... If u are attacked my 10 pple in a pub is your friend lame for bringing a bouncer.. no its called STRATEGY. You could say its lame when Mid,Alb, Hib group of 8 comes across a single invader and ganks him after all chances are he stands no chance.

 

[old.Saborion]

I think it`s ok to pull mobs. As someone else said, the frontiers, everything goes.

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Talivar
Sorry im confused, Its ok to root some1 xping and let them die because its the frontier and if u dont want xp death u shouldnt be there but its lame to pull a mob to xp death some1.. Grow up all u idiot whiners... If u are attacked my 10 pple in a pub is your friend lame for bringing a bouncer.. no its called STRATEGY. You could say its lame when Mid,Alb, Hib group of 8 comes across a single invader and ganks him after all chances are he stands no chance.

oh dear lol. you dont seem to understand the way rvr works

if a group of 8 comes across a single invader, they'll kill him, like they should, thats rvr. if a solo hib decides to pull a monster onto an enemy army, thats lame, its cheating, its sad. and who said its ok to root someone xping and let them die?? i never said that. its funny sure, but not ok, its still lame.

fact of the matter is, pulling a lvl 60 mob or whatever it is onto an army just to kill some people and give them exp death (and not get ANYTHING out of it other than self satisfaction) is increadibly lame

 

[old.Alderian]

have no fear maybe karam was near
he could prolly take the dragon down in 4 maybe 5 hits so i dont see whats the big deal ?

 

[old.anubis]

if a solo hib decides to pull a monster onto an enemy army, thats lame, its cheating, its sad

that's what i call tactic

next time mids should bring couple of those beasts to amg

 

[cjkace]

Originally posted by Karam


oh dear lol. you dont seem to understand the way rvr works

if a group of 8 comes across a single invader, they'll kill him, like they should, thats rvr. if a solo hib decides to pull a monster onto an enemy army, thats lame, its cheating, its sad. and who said its ok to root someone xping and let them die?? i never said that. its funny sure, but not ok, its still lame.

fact of the matter is, pulling a lvl 60 mob or whatever it is onto an army just to kill some people and give them exp death (and not get ANYTHING out of it other than self satisfaction) is increadibly lame

Seems to me u don't understand. Its RvR (Realm versus Realm) and the drake is part of our realm isn't it? It's not bug abuse (people hiding in walls, shooting through trees, using bugged bows etc) so it's not wrong. RvR is the only section of this game that u can approach with impunity - if u die u lose NOTHING! It's not our fault that Mythic saw fit to put lots of uber mobs in our frontier, but seen as they put these weapons here we'll use 'em.

If you don't want to risk an xp death in emain/breifine then don't come here, simple as that.

Can't stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen and all that.

 

[old.Icebreaker]

Lol@ Karam,i think you dont understand the way RvR works

It's war in this game and you can use all tactics you can find in your brain.(expect bug's)
Mob pulls on enemy=Cheating?Hmm,not really

---------------------------------
Icebreaker<Celtic Fist>

 

[old.Ebeneezer]

Originally posted by Talivar
Sorry im confused, Its ok to root some1 xping and let them die because its the frontier and if u dont want xp death u shouldnt be there but its lame to pull a mob to xp death some1.. Grow up all u idiot whiners... If u are attacked my 10 pple in a pub is your friend lame for bringing a bouncer.. no its called STRATEGY. You could say its lame when Mid,Alb, Hib group of 8 comes across a single invader and ganks him after all chances are he stands no chance.

OK let me clarify:

MIDS are trying to take Dun Crim

Hibs rally to defend - Novamir comes to defend too.

Novamir happens to get a drake chasing him, but I have spotted him first and I root him. HE IS NOT XPING - he's lvl 50 after all. He has either aggroed or is drawing mob to D Crim deliberately.

Mob kills him (sad I wanted to).

We kill mob.

I don't think it's lame if he did it deliberately, just didn't make sense that's all - there were no guards as we killed them, so the mob was always going to kill him first anyway. He would have been better off staying alive.

My own personal opinion is that he aggroed it accidentally. He had nothing to gain by "doing an Outlaw"

 

[herjulf]

Well i think this thread has gotten outta propotion.
i think it was not the intention of the threadstarter, however...

Pulling a mob on Enemy players isnt cheating, no it shure isnt but it is LAME.
it is quite low, knowing what it means in losses for them personally, in this case maybe hours and hours of Exping.

A "PURE" RvR fight makes you die, and if rezzed sick for a while if not rezzed u get released to last bind point, nothing lost. Except for the enemy gaining som Realm points and Bounty points. on behalf of you misery of having to take a long walk back or endure 5mins of rez sickness.

A mob death makes you loose exp, woth hours of gametime.
Something you are ready to sacrifice if your intentions are fighting a mob.

Pulling a mob from its spawnpoint and coded patrolling area far to an enemy is not cheating no, cheating is using a bug or similar.
it is very lame though, and mostly piss people off.

This behaiviour is like mezzing/stunning greys fighting mobs.
Pulling a far more powerfull mob to them is no better then that mezz.

Frontier or no frontier, there are basic rules of chivalry even in war.

 

[old.anubis]

kk, let me summarise.

1. exp kill is lame
2. res kill is lame
3. killing grey is lame
4. killing sitting/afk is lame
5. chasing mob is lame
6. chasing guard is lame
7. 1-hit kill and staying stealthed is lame
8. mez is lame
9. root is lame
10. nearsight is lame
11. ranger/hunter run buff is lame
12. ...

what shall we do now???

i have an answer:
stop playing this stupid game

 

[herjulf]

cuz if the things in the list u mentioned like:

1. exp kill is lame

3. killing grey is lame
4. killing sitting/afk is lame


7. 1-hit kill and staying stealthed is lame

If this is what u think makes this game worth playing, well...

the last point nr7. however is floating in my opinion.
but if u consider it, a comrade falls and you see an arrow piercing his chest as he falls.
Your awearness is shure to raise and u have hints as to where the threat comes from, due to the arrow its angle in your mate.
however, every one that knows of sniper tactics is one shot one kill.
One shot leaves your enemy unaware of your exact location.
Perhaps a Decremation of your Stealth value to 20% of your normal value would be more suitable and realistic.
thus raising your enemys chances of seeing u.

But if he is alone however, it is another story. then again...
If he is alone, you loosing your stealth isnt all that terrible

P.S edited out some stuff i felt was to personal.
i dont wanna go there, not chivalrous, and mids are a goodhearted people.

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by Ebeneezer
My own personal opinion is that he aggroed it accidentally. He had nothing to gain by "doing an Outlaw"

No ur wrong, he did it deliberately, he's done it before (Hello, Grand Pooka) and he'll do it again.

 

[Solarias--]

its lame. nothing can change my mind..having to pay 30+ gold and loosing exp cus sum looser can't fight the opposing realms without using a NPC is lame...hate to agree with karam but..well it is

if Albs / Hibs were at bled and we pulled glacier giant (proberly impossible) we would get flamed to death

 

[old.Odies]

Cjkace

"shooting through trees"



Those bastid archers!

- Odies / Insert random lvl 24 alt name here

 

[Novamir]

yep ive done it before with a drake and pookha, and id do it again

i would have succeeded if it wasnt for those damn kids!

if Karam doesn't approve, it must be good!

 

[Dherkova]

All I can say is:
Great tactic Nova.

 

[Dherkova]

From the herald (last line is enough but i post everything):

Friday Grab Bag
from Sanya Thomas
2001-12-21 17:52:36

Q: I’ve been leveling out on the frontier on those tasty purple
monsters, and I was still a little bloody from the encounter. Then
I died on the frontier to a player, and I lost experience and
constitution. WTH?

A: This is intentional. If you are down so much as a single hit
point from monster damage when you are killed by another
player, you will lose exp/con. It seems unfair, but the alternative
is more unbalancing to the game – people would fight monsters,
and if it looked like they were going to lose, they’d suicide on the
nearest guard and gain risk free, no-loss experience. Leveling on
the frontier is not meant to be risk-free – the possibility of
someone taking advantage of your weakened state is a clear and
present danger. The other side of the coin (enemies using the
native fauna to cause you to suffer) is considered a tactic. It’s not
terribly NICE, but war… isn’t.

 

[Addlcove]

All respect to nova, I wouldn´t have the guts to do a thing like that, (pull 12 red/purp mobs yes, getting your team exp killed sure, but pulling a highlvl mob to other players risking a flame on the forum no thansk )

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Solar
if Albs / Hibs were at bled and we pulled glacier giant (proberly impossible) we would get flamed to death

Now that would only be fun

Karam:
Funny then, how your realm-m8s have to pull ubergurads on the PK-campers...