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ilaya

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if it works and world debt is cancelled.. do i have to still repay my cedit cards?
 

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Most likely we have to pay double so the banks can get their money back :(
 

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on a more serious note tho.. does anyone else see the irony in having elton john and paul mccartney there? 2 of the richest peeps in the world who could BUY an african town and look after the peeps living there, and not notice any change to their bank balance.

and pete docherty.. how much money has he snorted?

disgusts me that all these rich, wasteful bastards are singing shit songs on behalf of the poorest peeps in the world. most of em are only doing it to boost their profile and therefore sales.
 

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I think the main idea behind these people doing it is to make others take notice, so there is more coverage and awareness. Example getting some weird bloke standing on a street corner shouting about poverty and waving a board most people will just walk right by and ignore it. Have a global star performing on that corner and it will stop traffic and people will listen.

And about them paying for towns etc, it goes way beyond that. The idea of wiping the countries debt (which we harshly inflicted upon them in the 1st place) can only be done from a governmental point of view, it is too much just to be paid off by stars. The fact that these places are amoung the poorest in the world is mainly due to the heavy debt they are having to repay, without this debt then there own money will be able to be put to use in their country and they can help themselves more.

And many of these celebrities have given way more than most people earn in there lifetime to charity already so saying that it disgusts you or whatver well I dont agree. Without many of these people doing what they have done, and doing what they are doing now there would be a lot more suffering in the world.

Just my view anyways. I say keep it up. :)
 

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dear terry wogan. i would like to complain about the language used by snoopy doggy dog dog during the live9 concert. it was broadcast before the watershed and it has no place on my television. i was so shocked i almost had a stroke.

yours faithfully

beatrice stott from somewhere boring.

dude lost it hahahaha :D
 

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theyr all swearing:p, Razorlight said are you fucking ready
and madonna just went "ARE YOU FUCKING READY LONDON?!"

is good though:) what theyr doing
 

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Just heard that Bill Gates donated 5 BILLION ($5,000,000,000!) dollar to Live8?

Respect.
 

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see greenday in philly were swearing A LOT :p

was funneh
 

ilaya

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bill gates donates a LOT to charities every single week. he admits he has more money than he needs and would give SOOOO much more away if it werent for the shareholders in microsoft.

where that 5 billion is gonna go tho is another matter. need to get rid of the nutcases like Mugabe in zimbabwe before anything positive will happen.

UN need to get in there and sort it imo. stop the fighting.. u stop the poverty. and if they looking for volunteers to do that, im in, sign me up. stop this bollocks NOW. africa deserves better.
 

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Thought it was rather touching when they brought that girl out who was on deaths door at the time of the first live aid 20 years ago.

Been amazing so far and there is always some muppet accusing the people involved of only doing it to boost their image.
 

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It Is good thing theyre doing, ok some of their motives might be less than 100% pure but as long as it gets the job done who cares, one thing i found a bit odd was that the concert coincided with the make poverty history march round edinborough which afaik was planned 1st and dectracted some of the publicity but its all for the same cause so ho hum.

was watching on a prog this arvo with interviews in africa and one of the points that was made by someone who lives there was that people have been supplying aid to the country for years and the more aid/money they get the poorer they get this is down to corruption which you cant deny is rife, so maybe rather than trying to raise more money that will go on cars and ivory backscratchers for the polititians the proceeds should go to bringing down the people in power that are corrupt so that the honest people can actually have a life.

saw this sketch on lenny henry show ages ago where he played an african head of state and this guy from funding commission was writing out a cheque, lenny h was saying about how the money would go to growing crops and schools/health etc as soon as the guy signed the cheque he grabbed it and said something like "woohoo now i can get started on my program for launcing badgers in to space!"


sadly thats more or less what happens, the intentions of the doners are good but once the moneys handed over well, you see what happens to it
 

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More bullshit for the bullshit sponges.

The only way to end poverty is to end the collection of obscene wealth.

99% of the acts on show are the epitamy of decadance.

The 2005 equal of ' let them eat cake'

The reality is that most people dont gove a f?k, if we did we could have sorted it 40 yrs ago.
We think Africans are incapable of running their own sh1t , and most of the time we a right.
 

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Lol

Didnt U2 sign a 40 million Pepsi Contract or something a few years back

Yet they bleat on about World Poverty
 

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Thadius said:
Lol

Didnt U2 sign a 40 million Pepsi Contract or something a few years back

Yet they bleat on about World Poverty

lol did you know u2 have donated upwards of £15million to charity over the years? whats that? you didnt? Thought not. Just because they dont bleat on about it like you probably do when you put 50p in a charity box.
 

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OOh they only kept 25 million for themselves, and 15 million..er tax break!!!!

The problem I have is with the idea of people who represent the unequal distribution of wealth harping on about the poor.

How about a concert by Oxfam, San frontiers, Red Cross workers, they could tell us their stories, show us the pictures.....boring!!!!

We want to be entertained when me momentarily worry about the poor.
 

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Pete Doherty also chose the right occasion to show how talentless he actually is, in front of a worldwide audience of 5billion people. Elton John looked embarrased at how bad the smack heads vocals actually where
 

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Job said:
OOh they only kept 25 million for themselves, and 15 million..er tax break!!!!

The problem I have is with the idea of people who represent the unequal distribution of wealth harping on about the poor.

How about a concert by Oxfam, San frontiers, Red Cross workers, they could tell us their stories, show us the pictures.....boring!!!!

We want to be entertained when me momentarily worry about the poor.

so how much of your annual wage do you give to charity? 10%, 20%, 50%? There are probably thousands of people with more wealth than any of those people who performed on stage yesterday. Its not about how much money they give to charity, its about getting the message across to the G8 leaders. I dare say most of the perfermors yesterday do give away vast amounts to charity, elton john for one gives obscene amounts, so does madonna a hell of a lot more than me or you in relation to our actual annual wage. And what do they get for it? Shit off people who sit on their backsides putting the world to rights, saying they are greedy.
 

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Superb concert. Floyd set was totally awesome. Less knocking of the organisers, this is their way of raising awareness and reminding the G8 leaders that 5 billion plus people expect changes.
 

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well its done, wonder if it'll work? hope it does but sadly doubt anything major will come of it untill they boot out the greedy corrupt leaders in africa the money is just going to go to them not the innocent folk who need it.
 

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Its a nice idea, but lets be honest, it isnt going to work, it would be brilliant if it did, but theres no way the rich countries are gunna commit economic suicide, even if a billion+ are telling them to. the poor countries are helping keep us rich, and theres no way the G8 are going to accept a concert as cause to change, or a protest march, or a hug :(. we need change but i fear this is the wrong way to go about it, its just going to be jesture (sp?) politics and in a few months people will lay pressure off and begin to forget etc :(
 

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reason for concert was to tell G8 leaders to cancel third world debt seeing as the debt = 200 BILLION how can any1 of those peps on stage get rid of that? or askin peps to send in money like the one 20 years ago, and u cant say pay 1 billion then in another year pay of another billion due to the intrest rates on the debt to it continues to grow, point was to say to the 8 world leaders that many millions of people wanted the debt to be abolished.
 

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3rd world debt has already been canceled
 

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They had already agreed to cancel most of the debt before the concert took place.

But lets face it, unless something is done about the corrupt powers that be in Africa we will be holding another concert in another 10yrs for em.

Shame we cant do this sort of thing for our own fecking country, as the saying goes "charity begins at home" everyone seems to forget the homeless and poor we have in this country!

"3rd world debt has already been canceled"

for now, until the next time, then the next time and the time after
 

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Writing debt off sounds easy, in fact the amounts are trivial to the West.

2 problems though, by rewarding non-payment you are seriously gonna piss off the countries that struggled and paid back what they owed, they quite rightly will decide it's much easier not to pay and then wait for it to be written off.

And having a debt written off puts you in the 'you'll never, ever get a loan again' ballpark.

So they can't borrow for investment and have to rely on aid, but aid comes with strings attached, in fact aid is rarely actual hard cash, it tends to be subsidised goods that helps our manufacturers and prevents their own people from being able to compete with it.
 

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years ago when margerat thatcher was in india she congratulated indira (i think) ghandi on her clearing of the national debt, she responded with "well i didnt realise i didnt have to pay it back".

i really do feel for those people in africa that are suffering but there is poverty all over the world not just there, many people in china live in appauling circumstances, india infact most of asia and in europe as Neon pointed out even in our own UK there are people living in poverty, lets not just focus on africa i strongly believe that before we can start preaching to other countries we need to get our own house in order first.
 

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peps have said it will be cancled from pressure put on from the live aid stuff but aint official till they have the G8 meeting and if it is canceled live 8 worked as i very much dout 3rd woorld debt would ave been talked about sooo much without it
 

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Ezteq said:
lets not just focus on africa i strongly believe that before we can start preaching to other countries we need to get our own house in order first.

sadly this Government are more interested in what the rest of Europe thinks about us, then putting right whats wrong at home.

They take more care of Asylum seekers and Immigrants than they do of their own ppl because its the politically (sp?) right thing to do.

Wish i could get a car or a mobile phone given to me by my own Government, sadly though they too busy giving em away to every fecker else!
 

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polza said:
peps have said it will be cancled from pressure put on from the live aid stuff but aint official till they have the G8 meeting and if it is canceled live 8 worked as i very much dout 3rd woorld debt would ave been talked about sooo much without it

you believe everything the media tells you?

just because you didnt hear about it before Live 8, doesnt mean to say it wasnt talked about, or wasnt being acted upon before

If you really think a big fecking pop concert is gonna sway World Leaders into writing off billions of debt then ur as naive as Geldof

Obviously if the debt is written off people are going to presume it was because of Geldof and his pop concerts and not because of the people in the "know"

But thats the media for ya
 

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Marc said:
so how much of your annual wage do you give to charity? 10%, 20%, 50%? There are probably thousands of people with more wealth than any of those people who performed on stage yesterday. Its not about how much money they give to charity, its about getting the message across to the G8 leaders. I dare say most of the perfermors yesterday do give away vast amounts to charity, elton john for one gives obscene amounts, so does madonna a hell of a lot more than me or you in relation to our actual annual wage. And what do they get for it? Shit off people who sit on their backsides putting the world to rights, saying they are greedy.

wonder how much those african-american artists give who spend most of their cash on BLING BLING ;o
 

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NeonBlue said:
you believe everything the media tells you?

just because you didnt hear about it before Live 8, doesnt mean to say it wasnt talked about, or wasnt being acted upon before

If you really think a big fecking pop concert is gonna sway World Leaders into writing off billions of debt then ur as naive as Geldof

Obviously if the debt is written off people are going to presume it was because of Geldof and his pop concerts and not because of the people in the "know"

But thats the media for ya

hmmm and u beleive these 8 peps would choose to loose what in theory is owed to them for no reason except they woke up onthe right said of the bed that day?
 

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