last tg raid /darkspirit and now thew truth

[raithian]

im kinda get sick of np flaming anyone that does something thay dont like( thay are just a guild and players like us all)

so now the facts and back info behind those facts

6 weeks ago i decided someone had to do something as the alliance i was in was slowly falling part we needed better team work more things to keep alliance together.
i talked to a few ppl and it was decided that tg raids ever week keep ppl interested in the alliance
no one wanted to do them so i decided id do a few just for alliance i did 5 alliance raids then was asked by 3 gms in 3 guilds why i never claimed a drop or even entered into the lotto after raids
the reason are my own i felt it rong to claim drops that belonged to all but thay insisted i should claim somthing for the time i put into doing raids

i said i would not take a drop after the raid BUT i would in future nominate 3 diff drops for the char i was on at the time if one of them droped id claim it that seamed fair to me as i was still taking a chance id end up with nothing
raid number 5 i nominated a 1 handed hammer it droped i claimed it
raid number 9 i nominated 2 handed hammer it never droped so i got nothing
raid number 10 i nominated in this order a left axe a 1 handed axe and a ring for my zerker
the only axe that droped was 6 axe 5 shaeild that is not a zerker axe and the only other drop was the ring and as i had stated at start id claim a ring and ALL in cg said ok i cant see the problem why moan about me taking a drop after the raid if it was a problem say so before (i suspect it wasnt a problem as chances it drop like 1%) but it did drop and sundenly im beging called a theif by members of np just because i finaly got lucky.

as i said why flam after an event againts rules you agreed with just because luck was on my side and an item you said i could have droped

in my 10 tg raids a total of 267 items hace droped and i claimed 2 that still leaves 265 items that would not be in mid if i had not decided enought was enought and acted to do somthing

after the raid the lotto yes was crap but it was surgested to try that system BY one of the ppl now slaging me off for trying it (rathewr pathetic i must say surgest a system that slag me off when it failed)

as for the ring members of np acused me of stealing it so i decided to get rid of it i therefore gave it away to someone who was on the raid that was my decidtion i nolonger wanted the dam thing as it cause to much trouble

as for any new raids chances are i wont be doing anymore for realm but a dozen guilds and there gms that pmed me last 2 days backing me and my raids i thank you and i will in time concider your request to run small 5-6 fg raids from those 12 guilds.
as for ppl claiming drops look at the maths each raid takes about 5 hours start to finish the raid planer has to stay there for it all he cant say ok im loging now john doe will enter me for lotto he has to stay there for it all
thats 5 hours per raid 10 raids 50 hours in all so to vlaim 2 drops for 50 hours work to me seams fair and just.
i allways say at start of a riad if i wish to claim a drop and i allways say set drops i take a chance that the items dropand with 260 tg items the chances that an item i nominate actualy drops is rather small about 1% chance
on the other hand last raid 34 drops 70 ppl thay had a 45% chance to get a drop so i had 1% thay had 45% who got the better deal
facts recaped
3 drops nominated all agreed if 1 droped of those 3 i could claim it 1 did drop from my list i claimed it if ppl had a problem why wait untill after raid to flam on bw why not say in cg at the time thay had a problem
reason thay just love to put anyone down that gets off his ass and does somthing for the relam thay cant stand the fact some ppl want the realm to do well and it takes other to do it as thay are just to dam lazy themselfs to do anything

i personaly find it both sad and pathetic that thay did not have the balls to say anything in the cg at start of raid ( id say because thay did not want to look a dam fool) to make a judgment after atending only 1 raid out of 10 is pathetic
most of the raids went great and lottos was ok 1 problem lotto and WHAM its flame time by NP that is the fact thay attended 1 raid and moan like a baby after

may i remeind you it was at the insistance of some gms with in both fom and ab alliance that i decided to actual claim any drops and as with the hammer i claimed that is proff i do not claim the best drops if i did id have claimed the axe that droped on same raid
and id have claimed the sword that droped last raid for my crit sword sb
if i claim a drop or nominat a drop its an item i need and can use but as i will no longer run any raids that involve both alliances (back to my alliance raids) i will after another 5 raids nominate the left axe and axe yet again and take my chances thay drop untill then ill stick to my rule no lottos for raid leaderand i will revert back to MY lotto system of
naming all drops numbering them then yelling a number and ppl have 1 vote per item (as long as it can be used by that char) if any drops remain after ie no one from that class wanted it then it goes open to all who did not get a drop

 

[gorff]

I don't know anything about this raid to TG as I wasn't there so I got no comment.But could I arrange I time and place where I can get the items I won in the dragon raid auction here on BW?
The cloth cap and the yellow diamond staff please?

This is like coming up on three weeks now and still no stuff

CAN I HAVE MY ITEMS PLEASE!!!! OR IF NOT AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

 

[MiMeN]

He'll prolly do a legion drop evade maneuvre

Like he did with WR legion drops.


/salut

 

[osy]

all i could read was "Hi, Bla Blah, Blah Blah, Bla Blah. Blah. Blah Bla."

someone care to translate, please ?

 

[Garh Khartari]

Re: He'll prolly do a legion drop evade maneuvre

Originally posted by gorff
I don't know anything about this raid to TG as I wasn't there so I got no comment.But could I arrange I time and place where I can get the items I won in the dragon raid auction here on BW?
The cloth cap and the yellow diamond staff please?

This is like coming up on three weeks now and still no stuff

CAN I HAVE MY ITEMS PLEASE!!!! OR IF NOT AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

Originally posted by MiMeN
Like he did with WR legion drops.


/salut

Yeah we're well aware of that happening by now, but I seriously think there'd be a bigger chance of getting the items via PM's still.
Posting it in every thread Ruathan posts in seems excessive, and annoys me because it has little to do with what the thread is about.

And Murphys, bug Ruathan in private cause I think theres more than me who are sick of you always flaming him. We know you don't like him, okay?

Thumbs up for Ruathan and his raids.
Thumbs down for the people flaming and not arranging raids themselves. Until you've done 10 raids and not claimed any items yourself I think you should stfu.

edit: last part directed to the people flaming Ruathan about his last raid.

 

[gorff]

Well I have tried the PM route and that had no effect and I have spoken to him in game.That time he said give my 20 mins to find which char they are on.I thought that was reasonable and told him to pm me when he had found them and I would come to him to collect.

I'm sure you can guess by now that was the last I heard from him.I don't flame people i don't argue with people generaly speaking,that's not why i play the game but this is even getting to me now.

 

[evilknight]

Re: He'll prolly do a legion drop evade maneuvre

The hunt was great, but the Lotto was terrible.
Why aren't we flamming some of the NP members for making the Lotto rules?
It's them we should flame, not Ruathan

Thumbs up for Ruathan.

Originally posted by old.Osy
all i could read was "Hi, Bla Blah, Blah Blah, Bla Blah. Blah. Blah Bla."

someone care to translate, please ?

You can't read English can you?
Even if there's alot of typos in there it's readable
Your post is childish and very unmature, if you don't have anything to say that's related to this thread FO

 

[etcetra]

Some of you obviously dont know Ruathian, im not "in to" flaming, but when it comes to Rua i cant help it.

He annoys me more than anyone, and is so fecking stupid, trying to be "smarter" than he is, but he just talks pure bullshit.

Yes, he knows this game well.
Hes a good crafter, and he takes initatives to make raids like TG Raids and Legion Run's.

Still, that doesnt make up for what kinda person he is, atleast not imo.

 

[-evull-]

Originally posted by old.Osy
all i could read was "Hi, Bla Blah, Blah Blah, Bla Blah. Blah. Blah Bla."

someone care to translate, please ?

sorry mack, can't be arsed to read Oo

 

[kaod]

The only way Raithian can truly vindicate himself on this is to actually name said GM's who can then verify parts of his post.

I find it hard to believe that someone would organise 5 TG raids and not even take part in the lotto (as he said in a previous post) and then it takes GM's to ask why he never lottos for him to decide that he will claim an item.

I also find it hard to believe that the ring was subsequently given away due to the thread being started, if you think you are in the right you keep it, and the thread still exists claiming fraud anyhow.

Posts, requesting items from previous lottos ARE valid IMO, as are those stating theft from WR raids.
Also, so are those in SUPPORT of Raithian and the proccess of the raid.
It's the only way Midgard will be able to make a decision on the whole matter.

As for claiming that NP are bitching, I don't see many NP members doing so, especially in the name of their guild. Only for themselves.
Looks from where I stand that someone is trying to deflect blame by using a popular means of doing so.

Name those unnamed people Raithian, that you state throughout your post and let them post for themselves what they said.

 

[Norb]

oh dear

 

[zmurf]

some ppl generalize waaay to much on these boards ( and in game, but that's another matter ), maybe u could stop with the "NP" flame and direct it to those ppl who actually flamed ruathian, who actually suggested the lotto rules, who actually entended the raid and whined, who actually ... u get the picture, just cause we all got <Nolby Pride> under our name doesnt mean we r all the same, nomatter what u think, a good example is that fuckwit's (of lack of better word) Archeon's sig, with moronic comment about NP, not like it will make flames any better generalizing us even more ... i Guess some ppl of this community is not old/experienced enough to realize same guild ISEN'T = same views/opinion's

 

[kaod]

Originally posted by zmurf
some ppl generalize waaay to much on these boards ( and in game, but that's another matter ), maybe u got stop with the "NP" flame and direct it to those ppl who actually flamed ruathian, who actually suggested the lotto rules, who actually entended the raid and whined, who actually ... u get the picture, just cause we all got <Nolby Pride> under our name doesnt mean we r all the same, nomatter what u think, a good example is that fuckwit's (of lack of better word) Archeon's sig, with moronic comment about NP, not like it will make flames any better generalizing us even more ... i Guess some ppl of this community is not old/experienced enough to realize same guild ISEN'T = same views/opinion's

A lot of it is probably just jealousy.

They'd never admit it ofc.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by zmurf
a good example is that fuckwit's (of lack of better word) Archeon's sig, with moronic comment about

Thats called a joke, it might be an alien concept to you. but seeing as you seem to offended by it i'l remove it from my Sig. You could have just PMed me and said

'Hay, Archeon i find thast bit about NP being like marmite offense. Would you mind removing it?'

and i would have said

'sure, didn't mean to cause offense'

But still, atleast you were honest i guess... though i'm not sure fuckwits an actual word...

 

[zmurf]

Yes i do know the concept of a joke, but afaik joke's r supposed to be funny, that one werent, more seemed like it was written in spite, guess it look's that way for me since i can't stand u as a person.
Gonna end this semi thread-hijack by not replying off-topic again, and return to my pink friend...

 

[Release]

Originally posted by raithian
im kinda get sick of np flaming anyone that does something thay dont like( thay are just a guild and players like us all)

so now the facts and back info behind those facts

Couldn't give a shit about the rest of your post, nothing todo with me.
But if you wanna talk about facts, then lets start with your first sentence(if you can call it that).
Ok, please post links to threads where the whole of NP as a *guild* has come and flamed people for doing things we dont like...
Exactly what I thought, so please to try refer to the *members* that make comments and not the guild as a *whole*.

 

[etcetra]

Well, Nolby Pride _IS_ the best RvR-Guild on Midgard/Excalibur, maybe best on the server.

Because of the way they decided to run the guild, and the players in it knows how to play the game.

This causes lotta jealousy many times, as kaod said.
And thats when they start to generalize, "They are good", "They are lame", "They suck", "OMG they own".

Not everyone owns "that much", not everyones lame.

Well, get my point? ;-|

 

[fragoverrule]

i joined also with this TG .. suicided halfway cuz i was fed up with waiting, and the idea that we were with like 5 fg's and some1 cou;ld claim an item.. that was for me something i absolutely couldnt agree with .. in every tg raid i joined never and nver items get clamed.. so i jumped off a cliff made 5 screenies and went for some rvr

 

[Garh Khartari]

You should have left in the beginning of the raid then, when he announced he'd claim a drop.
This isn't the raid leaders fault, you went on his raid, you accepted his rules.

Its that simple.

 

[fragoverrule]

actually the drops dont give a f*ck to me... reason.. see all the flaming around here, furthermore the fun killing in a large group is for me more fun then soloing in DF something like that.. ok it's nice u may win a drop... But this raid was different then normal from the beginning ive read more then once they werent happy with the claimdrop...

if he took a complete zerker outfit it woul still be ok since i dont have a high lvl zerker. but the waiting.. it really took alot of time somethimes decided to jump of a cliff. cuz 15 minutes waiting at almost every corner sucked

 

[MiMeN]

Re: Re: He'll prolly do a legion drop evade maneuvre

Originally posted by Garh Khartari
Posting it in every thread Ruathan posts in seems excessive, and annoys me because it has little to do with what the thread is about.

Actually it does, He has the nice habit of making things dissappear, not telling ppl about all the drops, posponing things so long nobody remembers about them.

Originally posted by Garh Khartari

Thumbs down for the people flaming and not arranging raids themselves. Until you've done 10 raids and not claimed any items yourself I think you should stfu.

edit: last part directed to the people flaming Ruathan about his last raid.

I HAVE done tg raids and i HAVE all the items i want. So thats why i havent done anymore thank you very much.


I would also like to see the so called "logs" where it says everything that he says is true, cos as etc say only bullshit comes from his mouth and personally i have heard more sense coming out of my arse after a nice curry thank u!


/salut



P.S pm him about anything is useless he just ignores it

Originally posted by Garh Khartari
You should have left in the beginning of the raid then, when he announced he'd claim a drop.
This isn't the raid leaders fault, you went on his raid, you accepted his rules.

Its that simple

Completly agree! if u dont like rules, dont go. It will waste ur time and the ppl on the raids time


Em sorry about quoting you on nearly everything there Garh

 

[Garh Khartari]

heheh thats ok Mimen
And in the second quote you did your comment proved my post wasn't directed at you, but guess you just wanted to let people know you'd done your part. =)

 

[svartmetall]

Hmm..I've not seen any flaming going on (not interested in he-said-she-said nonsense, life's too short), but I can corroborate I was one of the GMs talking to him about the drop system/lottos etc etc...I was playing Collateral Damage at the time, soloing in Askheim.

 

[chosen]

i really hope OÆ is one of the 12guilds, because i really like ur raids and have never complained

 

[old.fatbelly]

Re: Re: He'll prolly do a legion drop evade maneuvre

Originally posted by Garh Khartari
Thumbs down for the people flaming and not arranging raids themselves. Until you've done 10 raids and not claimed any items yourself I think you should stfu.

edit: last part directed to the people flaming Ruathan about his last raid. [/B]

not that im flaming ruathan for this, but i have made well over 10 tg raids in-guild NP, and never claimed an item. in fact, ive not even got a single TG item from those raids, though i can swear almost everyone else in NP has =).
(maybe thats why some NP ppl thought claiming items was so lame, since ive never done it on guildraids?)

claiming items is ok if you say you will claim an item when you announce the raid on /as or on a forum, saying it in the cg when the raid is about to begin isnt - then the people have allready kindof comitted to joning it, or at least wasted alot of time if they decide to leave when they are at last informed about it.

i know nothing about how it worked in this case, but this is how it should be done.

 

[SotH-Byffa]

Originally posted by raithian
im kinda get sick of np flaming anyone that does something thay dont like( thay are just a guild and players like us all)

so now the facts and back info behind those facts

6 weeks ago i decided someone had to do something as the alliance i was in was slowly falling part we needed better team work more things to keep alliance together.
i talked to a few ppl and it was decided that tg raids ever week keep ppl interested in the alliance
no one wanted to do them so i decided id do a few just for alliance i did 5 alliance raids then was asked by 3 gms in 3 guilds why i never claimed a drop or even entered into the lotto after raids
the reason are my own i felt it rong to claim drops that belonged to all but thay insisted i should claim somthing for the time i put into doing raids

i said i would not take a drop after the raid BUT i would in future nominate 3 diff drops for the char i was on at the time if one of them droped id claim it that seamed fair to me as i was still taking a chance id end up with nothing
raid number 5 i nominated a 1 handed hammer it droped i claimed it
raid number 9 i nominated 2 handed hammer it never droped so i got nothing
raid number 10 i nominated in this order a left axe a 1 handed axe and a ring for my zerker
the only axe that droped was 6 axe 5 shaeild that is not a zerker axe and the only other drop was the ring and as i had stated at start id claim a ring and ALL in cg said ok i cant see the problem why moan about me taking a drop after the raid if it was a problem say so before (i suspect it wasnt a problem as chances it drop like 1%) but it did drop and sundenly im beging called a theif by members of np just because i finaly got lucky.

as i said why flam after an event againts rules you agreed with just because luck was on my side and an item you said i could have droped

in my 10 tg raids a total of 267 items hace droped and i claimed 2 that still leaves 265 items that would not be in mid if i had not decided enought was enought and acted to do somthing

after the raid the lotto yes was crap but it was surgested to try that system BY one of the ppl now slaging me off for trying it (rathewr pathetic i must say surgest a system that slag me off when it failed)

as for the ring members of np acused me of stealing it so i decided to get rid of it i therefore gave it away to someone who was on the raid that was my decidtion i nolonger wanted the dam thing as it cause to much trouble

as for any new raids chances are i wont be doing anymore for realm but a dozen guilds and there gms that pmed me last 2 days backing me and my raids i thank you and i will in time concider your request to run small 5-6 fg raids from those 12 guilds.
as for ppl claiming drops look at the maths each raid takes about 5 hours start to finish the raid planer has to stay there for it all he cant say ok im loging now john doe will enter me for lotto he has to stay there for it all
thats 5 hours per raid 10 raids 50 hours in all so to vlaim 2 drops for 50 hours work to me seams fair and just.
i allways say at start of a riad if i wish to claim a drop and i allways say set drops i take a chance that the items dropand with 260 tg items the chances that an item i nominate actualy drops is rather small about 1% chance
on the other hand last raid 34 drops 70 ppl thay had a 45% chance to get a drop so i had 1% thay had 45% who got the better deal
facts recaped
3 drops nominated all agreed if 1 droped of those 3 i could claim it 1 did drop from my list i claimed it if ppl had a problem why wait untill after raid to flam on bw why not say in cg at the time thay had a problem
reason thay just love to put anyone down that gets off his ass and does somthing for the relam thay cant stand the fact some ppl want the realm to do well and it takes other to do it as thay are just to dam lazy themselfs to do anything

i personaly find it both sad and pathetic that thay did not have the balls to say anything in the cg at start of raid ( id say because thay did not want to look a dam fool) to make a judgment after atending only 1 raid out of 10 is pathetic
most of the raids went great and lottos was ok 1 problem lotto and WHAM its flame time by NP that is the fact thay attended 1 raid and moan like a baby after

may i remeind you it was at the insistance of some gms with in both fom and ab alliance that i decided to actual claim any drops and as with the hammer i claimed that is proff i do not claim the best drops if i did id have claimed the axe that droped on same raid
and id have claimed the sword that droped last raid for my crit sword sb
if i claim a drop or nominat a drop its an item i need and can use but as i will no longer run any raids that involve both alliances (back to my alliance raids) i will after another 5 raids nominate the left axe and axe yet again and take my chances thay drop untill then ill stick to my rule no lottos for raid leaderand i will revert back to MY lotto system of
naming all drops numbering them then yelling a number and ppl have 1 vote per item (as long as it can be used by that char) if any drops remain after ie no one from that class wanted it then it goes open to all who did not get a drop

u forgot to say: "Excuse my really sucky english"

learn some mannors ffs