Lag Casting

[Behmoth]

it's been happening more and more frequently upto the point where its not worth attacking towers. Looking up you see casters from all realms (i have only seen 2 but i would belive it if was told the 3rd realm did it also ) running out into the middle of the air;next thing your being blasted from (can't see target) yet they are still blasting you. hopefully we caught a few on frapps last night now i just need to know if its bug abuse and will get it sent in.

 

[Stallion]

hard to know. Its usaly not the person nuking that lags, but yourself. If you have a jumpy computer (fps lag) you have a small chance to jump forward on the screen in the direction your running/moving. Not sure what this is based on, but I can assure you the ppl nuking aint responsible.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

prolly just some lag, like when ppl inside the tower lag just for a sec or 2 then a few casters downstairs get 1 or 2 nukes off cuz they lag outside the tower and die even tho there would be no chance to get killed where u acually died, that is a problem, specially in bigger sieges...

 

[Brackus]

I find it hard to believe that someoen can use lag to out cast someone, (unless of course they are using some kind of bug which allows them to seem to lag forward while they stand still ??)

However I myself have had experience in huge battles to get nuked while i am either inside a bridge or tower

the other day Gingy was able to nuke me 5 times, (4 of which were after I moved away from the edge of the tower) As much as I hate his little ginger socks I doubt he would cheat, so can only think its dodgy game los or lag

 

[Stallion]

from my experience; strafing causes you to lag more, same with autorun and (stopping with face).

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

from my experience; strafing causes you to lag more, same with autorun and (stopping with face).

Correct - /face stop from an autorun generates a crapload of lag. The major form of casting abuse i see nowadays is lag casting deliberately when someone's losing a mezz in open field.

 

[Tuthmes]

The amount of fotm sorc's lagcasting l8tly is redicules, haven't seen anything like it. Some make it >2000 unit's, someone explain me how they do it plz, i wanne know!

 

[Ronso]

The amount of fotm sorc's lagcasting l8tly is redicules, haven't seen anything like it. Some make it >2000 unit's, someone explain me how they do it plz, i wanne know!

1850 with 10% spell range ..lets do the math here . 10% of 1850 plus 1850 ..anyone ?

 

[Craparoni]

2035

Now givf cookie

 

[Ronso]

2035

Now givf cookie

Here is another quick one just to make sure . If Danny has 3 apples and he eats one apple ..how many apples does Danny have left ?

 

[Craparoni]

3 minus 1 on my calculator didnt work, some sort of malfuntion. But can i get 3 alternatives? might ask the audience, use a freebie or something?

Damn so close to a cookie, pfffft , stupid gadget that wont work

 

[Tuthmes]

1850 with 10% spell range ..lets do the math here . 10% of 1850 plus 1850 ..anyone ?

Let's see, IQ of <80 trying to be smart on FH ... anyone?

 

[Ronso]

Let's see, IQ of <80 trying to be smart on FH ... anyone?

Wait wait ..did you ..did you just come up with that ALL BY YOURSELF ? Surely you must have copied and pasted from another forum . No way? You mean you were that quick that you came up this responce ? You should do stand up and rap battles . You are too fast .

 

[Ronso]

And ..ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer - blame yourself .

 

[Tuthmes]

Wait wait ..did you ..did you just come up with that ALL BY YOURSELF ? Surely you must have copied and pasted from another forum . No way? You mean you were that quick that you came up this responce ? You should do stand up and rap battles . You are too fast .

I know!

But surely even you can see that i'm not talking about the max range of sorc's mezz, but about sorcs that start casting from dc bridge and ending up at Druim Ligen.

 

[Ronso]

I know!

But surely even you can see that i'm not talking about the max range of sorc's mezz, but about sorcs that start casting from dc bridge and ending up at Druim Ligen.

Blame Aurores for speccing out of ice . This bug is a result of that catastrophic change .

 

[Smellysox]

it's been happening more and more frequently upto the point where its not worth attacking towers. Looking up you see casters from all realms (i have only seen 2 but i would belive it if was told the 3rd realm did it also ) running out into the middle of the air;next thing your being blasted from (can't see target) yet they are still blasting you. hopefully we caught a few on frapps last night now i just need to know if its bug abuse and will get it sent in.

Time for the screenshits my fab friend ! lets do some together and send them inc to Goa HQ for bansticks !

 

[MaditioN]

some patches ago you could lagcast or prevent falldmg by clicking and holding the topbar of daoc when you played windowed but thats fixed, its the server that think you are still going to a certain place but your client havent told the server yet, thus you sometimes lag out of a tower and get nuked while you are nice and quiet behind a wall.

also the scene where Dilandio(healer) got suspended for a week because goa dont know their own game was silly, just watch movies from early daoc and you can see people lagging all over, and it can be because of bad connection, lag spike at that moment or similiar that prevents the client reporting that you stopped moving.

 

[MaCaBr3]

Lag casting annoys me too and I play a caster, but like Staj said, it's not the caster's fault, but actually u lagging a brief moment, making u char lag outside or inside a tower or running towards u while u are actually standing still.

The netcode of the game really screws up at this point making u a valid target for killing.

I've been lag casted numberous of time, I also thougt it was a bug of some sort (will it kinda is) untill I figured out I was doing the exact same thing wile on serveral occasion. I while taking a keep I use "target closest target" allot and there was this saracen who I saw walking outside of inner tower so I killed him, but I never saw his body, I figured he was lagging as hell.

Also happens allot in a bad way when I stun someone but the code actually makes him lag a few unites further. So I get the target is too far war away.

 

[Ging]

The netcode of the game really screws up at this point

yea hes really shit! sounds like a little girl on vent/ts as well :kissit:

 

[Ging]

there was this saracen who I saw walking outside of inner tower so I killed him, but I never saw his body, I figured he was lagging as hell.

it was me - u out haxxored me! still i haxxored u back at dc3 yesterday!

such haxx action

 

[MaCaBr3]

it was me - u out haxxored me! still i haxxored u back at dc3 yesterday!

such haxx action

U BASTARDOR!!!:touch:

 

[Ging]

U BASTARDOR!!!:touch:

blame the haxx!

 

[rampant]

i doubt its a haxzor or a bannable incident - if you are running in a group and you face an enemy then you stop dead (and then cast) - but the person who you are attacking may well see you still running forward casting your spell..

 

[Septima]

I got several times shotted to death by some sorc in different towers, without any LOS, and believe me i was not lagging. There is some kind of abuse but i can't say how it works, or how avoid it. I'm pretty sure it's not always lag fault imo.

 

[MaCaBr3]

I got several times shotted to death by some sorc in different towers, without any LOS, and believe me i was not lagging. There is some kind of abuse but i can't say how it works, or how avoid it. I'm pretty sure it's not always lag fault imo.

Well I've killed some players where I'm pretty sure they must have thought I was cheating. Many of those kills are like players appearing close to me, so I stun/nuke and when they die I see their body miles away.

 

[Void959]

I don't see this often at all and when I do it seems to be lots of people at once, which makes me assume it's at my end not theirs.

Edit: And I always use /face when rushing someone to mezz etc, the extra half a second it gives you is vital, but I think most people do this anyway and although it may make you appear to lag it doesn't actually give you a range advantage as you're already within xxxx units before casting the mezz spell.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

I got several times shotted to death by some sorc in different towers, without any LOS, and believe me i was not lagging. There is some kind of abuse but i can't say how it works, or how avoid it. I'm pretty sure it's not always lag fault imo.

it's cuz u lag out of the side of the tower, then they can nuke u cuz on there screen they have LOS to u, but u will not see that u are lagging outside the tower, I've tried it several times, both dieing where they don't have a chance to kill me like standing in the lord room in a tower in a corner then lagging out, and I've killed ppl who lagged out aswell, I dono if it's server side lag or PC lag tho, maybe a combo

but that don't make it less annoying dieing that way I've slammed my hand into the wall alot cuz of that (yes I hate dieing, specially when I fuckup or the game does it)

 

[>.< Pooned]

hard to know. Its usaly not the person nuking that lags, but yourself. If you have a jumpy computer (fps lag) you have a small chance to jump forward on the screen in the direction your running/moving. Not sure what this is based on, but I can assure you the ppl nuking aint responsible.

Thats correct.......

stop Dling porn when rvring Stop getting fraps on if u got a crap pc

and most harmfull thing stop dual loging if ur pc is so crap that gets u loads of lag 1 yellow line is enough to get u killed believe me

and i know that not all of the mentioned above is easy when u rvr but thats the only way to avoid lag when u rvring ... at least to avoid that things

 

[>.< Pooned]

I got several times shotted to death by some sorc in different towers, without any LOS, and believe me i was not lagging. There is some kind of abuse but i can't say how it works, or how avoid it. I'm pretty sure it's not always lag fault imo.

maybe check except the tower's corners also the holes between the wall and the balcony its a way that cast can run from it too i mean through the holes