Kobbie as Savage?

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silverfall

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Can kobbies become savages in EU version of SI yet??? Or is it a l8r patch that makes it possible?
 
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mid_Efour

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valk, kobbie, norse, dorf & troll <== all savages
 
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mid_Efour

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valk, kobbie, norse, dorf & troll <== all savages
 
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mid_Efour

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valk, kobbie, norse, dorf & troll <== all savages
 
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mid_Efour

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valk, kobbie, norse, dorf & troll <== all savages
 
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mid_Efour

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LOL


so sorry some slight lag there and i gave up in the end thinking none got posted....

i think as taromas says u get the point :)
 
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silverfall

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Pfft! Got it in the dirst post u did Efour!

Anyway, GREAT then i can make a kobbie savage when i get online again!!!
 
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Xtro

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I have a valkyn savage and have been teaming with a norse savage.

Verdict = delete and reroll as kobbie or norse.
 
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Wij

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Wha ?

I have a Valkie Savage :(

I might have a fair few hours tonight free btw X.

Anything going down ? :)
 
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Eltharion

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Taken from the FAQ on VN

Why is the Valkyn, with it's low CON, such a poorly designed Race for Savages? I thought the new race would be designed for the new class!

I have no idea why they chose to do that. Honestly, I don't know what class the Valkyn IS best suited for!
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Trolls start with very low DEX / QUI - won't they make terrible Savages?

Using a troll to start the game, with 35 Quickness. We then take him to level 50, adding 23 Quickness by way of autoraising (if Quickness is Secondary stat). Then buff him up with capped +75 QUI gear. Give him a Shaman Dex/Qui buff for another 70 points.

That gives Mr. Troll 203 Quickness.

Based on Neill's formula that 6 points of Quickness over 60 are about equal to 1% Haste, this 203 Quickness gives the troll a natural haste of 23% ( (203-60)/6 ).

So then we take his weapons, the slowest available HTH at 3.2s and apply his natural haste to the weapons. This results in a weapon delay of 2.4s. If this troll were to get Savagery up to the 39% Haste buff, he'd then have weapons whose delay is 1.5s, which is right at the speed cap.

Let's then say Mr. Troll can't find a Shaman to help him. He's got a Quickness of 133. That's a natural haste of about 12%. That gives him a natural weapon delay of 2.8 and a Hasted weapon dealy of 1.7.

So you see, even a troll, starting with the lowest Quickness possible, is able to get near the weapon speed cap at level 50 with the slowest HTH weapon available. This is, of course, assuming that the 6 points per 1% haste is valid post-200.
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So as you can see, if you expect on being buffed Valkyn is not a good choice. A dorf or a Norse would be the best choice if your a stat freak, else i would just choose what you like to play...and in my case thats a Kobold =)
 
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old.Demerzel

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Valkyns have the most gimped stats of all races in all realms...

im going dorf :D
 
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Cush

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Are Dorf like Asian ppl? = having hard time with liqoure and easy to get hungover?

<Points at demerzel>
<giggles>

wish i could post a pic but as the l33t haxx0r forum user i am i have no idea to do it
 
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Xtro

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Wij m8, I always believe that if you really like a race then stick with it no matter what. That's why I play a Troll Warrior and not a kobold despite the new fad. Troll FEELS like a tank.

Unfortunately though, as much as I wanted to like my Valkyn she just doesn't cut it. Sure I can take yellows fine but the downtime is really irritating compared to kobbie (which I now am).

Playing Freelancer tonight btw sorry m8 (the DEMO of course ;)).
 
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Xtro

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Valk has lowest con (IIRC!) so lowest HP, therefore needs to rest to get HP back to safe level after a kill.

Clear? :)
 
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Wij

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Originally posted by Xtro
Valk has lowest con (IIRC!) so lowest HP, therefore needs to rest to get HP back to safe level after a kill.

Clear? :)
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Yeh but higher dex/qui means more evades and parries so less HP lost ?

See ? :)
 
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Xtro

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Well can only speak from my personal experience but I hardly parried and evades weren't too common either.

Valkyns look mangy too :)
 
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Cush

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Originally posted by Xtro
Well can only speak from my personal experience but I hardly parried and evades weren't too common either.

Valkyns look mangy too :)
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How high lvl did you get?
 
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Xtro

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Only a lowbie 12 thats why I'm saying I cant judge "de facto" what its like. I think I've seen others say they didn't really start enjoying the class til 20+, one said 40+ even.
 
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old.camillo

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Started a Valkyn Savage, since I wanted a fresh breath, lvl 27 now, yellows & oranges are no problem, chaining reds with Art (valkyn savage) is easy, too (without buffbots).

Thinking, a valkyn is gimped, reminds of those guys, who said, a slash inf is utterly gimped and won´t kill anything (good, old 1.34 times).

Have fun & pick the race/class you most enjoy, it´s the player and not those "superb" vnboards hints/threads ;)
 
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old.Demerzel

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what!! being uber is everything.. also in life :clap:
 
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mid_Efour

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my savage is valk, and tbh its alot of crap that u people speek :flame:

all savages below 20 are crap, valky ones especially crap u pop 3 buffs u are commiting suicide or have 3 mins more DT, my advice just haste/parry or haste/evade (after u get 21 h2h) damage add is broken or useless.

anyway i took my savage to the BG and buffed up i have 720ish HP not bad i thought, combined with incresed evade and the self haste its alot of fun.

I think at the end of it (50) a dorf has 150 more HPs? than a valky i havent worked it out but u think about it 150hps is 1 more mellee swing landed on u , so if we evade even 1 more time than a dorf its balanced out--- + valkys have some nice racial bonus to body resists...

check them out i dont think they are bad but i been rolling gimps since day 1 :)

and they are pretty cool (which is most important )

ill post this 8 times so to make sure u read it.
 
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Cush

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Efour is bugged!! I only see one of the last post? aint there suppose to be 8 `?
 
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~Mobius~

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My Savage (Kobold) is only level 14, but he parries and evades a helluva lot!

Hits hard to, i think Kobold make best. :)
 
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Glyph_mid

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Originally posted by mid_Efour


all savages below 20 are crap, valky ones especially crap u pop 3 buffs u are commiting suicide or have 3 mins more DT, my advice just haste/parry or haste/evade (after u get 21 h2h) damage add is broken or useless.
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Im using dps add and haste all the time, and id like you to explain how it is "broken"?
 
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