Keep Claiming, Important

[[NP]Sub]

if your guild wants to claim a keep in our own frontier, make sure you can make it ATLEAST lvl 5, or leave the keep for some1 else who can afford it..

the reason that this is so important is, that the patrols, the guards and the lord all gain a lvl for each lvl the keep is upgraded, hence lvl 10 keep = +10 lvls to all the guards.

And the 3 uberguards at the relic also gains bonus from this upgrade, so this will make it ALOT harder to do relicraids on us, if all keeps are lvl 10.

RVR/FRONTIER KEEP CHANGES

We've made a few changes to make taking and holding frontier keeps much more attractive. The changes are designed to make it slightly easier to defend keeps, as well as give you more reason to control them. We will be making more enhancements to this system over time.

- Now, when a guild claims an outpost, all guards from that outpost raise one level. Additionally, as the keep is upgraded - one level is added to every guard for every upgrade level on the keep. Note that the named guards at the relic keeps are "from" these outposts and enjoy the same upgrades.

 

[old.Leel]

Yeah, noticed. The uber relic guards also get the guild cloak of the guild that controls their keep. So now you can sit by the side and cheer and say "hey, that's OUR level 10 relic guards spankin' the hibs"

 

[shilak]

Also, dont forget to upgrade the doors a few levels as they help to hold off the enemy long enough to get some ppl there to help the guards if they need it.

 

[Sortbane]

Taken from Odins Æresgarde forums (dunno who wrote it, but Basso posted it )

A good read anyways...

I'm new at this, how do I get started?
Repairing and upgrading keep doors requires Woodworking skill. So to get started, join any crafting order and skill up. If you can, skill up on things that also raise your woodworking. If not, use trinkets to raise it. Remember that it can't go higher than your primary skill level.

How high does my woodworking need to be?
Figure at least 50 skill for each door level, though you'll fail almost every time at this minimum. You start to get reliable after another 50-100 skill. So to upgrade to or repair a level 2 door, 100 woodworking will work, but it'd be best to let someone above 150 handle it. Relic doors level 8 can be done at 500 in a pinch.

Does woodworking affect speed or amount of wood used?
Nope. A level 1000 woodworker will repair/upgrade at the same speed and use the same amount of wood as a level 50 woodworker. The difference is, the higher level woodworker will fail much less, thus taking less time overall.

Can I lose wood on a failure?
Nope, you only waste time.

How much wood do I need?
Each upgrade/repair requires a specific number of Wood Units (WU). More expensive wood is worth more WU but is less cost-efficient. So use as cheap a wood as you can stand to buy and transport... if you can't carry a lot, you'd save a lot of cash by finding a strong friend to shuttle wood to you. Oh, mixing and matching woods is fine.

What's the best kind of wood to use?
The cheapest you can. When in doubt, bring ironwood. It can upgrade as low as to level 2 without wasting too much money, and can help repair up to a level 10. Plus it can be used in siege weapons. Try not to enter the frontier without at LEAST 100 ironwood on you, ya never know when it could be useful.

Should I upgrade straight to the desired level, or do it in steps?
Always upgrade in steps. From 1 to 3, upgrade to 2 first, repair it to 100%, THEN upgrade to 3 and repair to 100% again. It's much more cost-efficient.

What are the commands?
"/upgrade" will show you the current level of the door. "/upgrade 3" will upgrade to level 3, etc. If you don't have enough WU, it says how much you currently have (which is a good reason to macro "/upgrade 10"). To repair, use "/repair". It will repair about 5% max, but might do a little less (it reports you make "some repairs").

I have many different kinds of wood, which kind will get used on a repair/upgrade?
It starts at the top. It's probably best to put the cheapest wood stacks above your expensive ones, as they will get used first. So bring a stack of oak to go from 1 to 2 and a stack of iron to go from 2 to 3 if you really want to.

How strong is each level of door?
A level 4 door can be taken down without a ram in under 10 minutes (around 5 minutes depending how many tanks are bashing). But if you can repair as it's being bashed on, you can usually keep it up until you run out of cash, die, or they bring a ram. This tactic can be used with a level 1 door as well, for a very cheap barricade. A level 10 door can hold out about 10 minutes even against one ram.

My guild is going to claim a supply/enemy keep, how high should we upgrade?
Since these keeps will probably be retaken pretty soon, use judgement on how much to spend. If you plan on repairing as the doors are getting knocked down (good for supply keeps), keep the inner door under 4 (level 5 doors are much more difficult to keep repaired). If you have a plat to spare, upgrade as much as possible and force them to bring rams.

My guild is going to claim a home keep, how high should we upgrade?
Level 10. You want these keeps to hold out as long as possible. If your guild can't afford to upgrade to 10, you better be keeping a very close eye on it or letting someone else claim. Of course, repairing those buggers are no fun, but that's the price you pay for keeping your relic.

How much time/gold does it take to go from 1 to 10?
If you've got a full group with speed to make runs for you, figure about 2 hours and 3.5 plat. Getting to level 8 should be about a plat, those last 2 levels should be about a plat each.

We just retook a keep, doors are level 1... what should we do?
Upgrading to level 4 is cheap... I use Elm, it's 6.5 gold and weighs about 266. It should only take 2-3 trips with a strong carrier. Rowan can save 4 gold, but that's hardly worth the hassle. Oak costs twice as much for half the weight, and with Ironwood it's 20 gold for only 67 weight.

The doors are level 4, what wood should we use to go higher?
Depends on how many runners you have. Going from 4-5 takes more than it did to go from 1-4 combined. Here you should start using Oak at the cheapest (21 gold @ 219 weight) with maybe a little Elm to offset costs. Ironwood is 10 gold more for half the weight, and Heartwood is 48 gold for 55 weight.

 

[lofff]

ignore sub hes a fag rl.

dont waste ur precious bps, let keeps at lvl1, important thingie = guards wearing ur fashion emblem thingies.

:kiss2:

 

[[NP]Sub]

Originally posted by lofff
ignore sub hes a fag rl.

dont waste ur precious bps, let keeps at lvl1, important thingie = guards wearing ur fashion emblem thingies.

:kiss2:

haha