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Mabs

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The Nazi's were simply carrying on an idea created and implemented in the States and UK and taking it to the extremes, and we have the cheek to call THEM fascists.

fixed that for you
 

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Well maybe, but you'll hear the seedlings of Eugenics everywhere to this day, in these forums in fact.
'They should stop chav's breeding'
You should need a licence to have kids

Exactly what they implemented in the states and were considering in the UK, Winston Churchill no less on board and it's just as alive today.
I hope I get to see it play out :flame:
 

Mabs

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its an awesome idea
remove all genetic illnesses etc from human race? yes please

its how you get there is the prob
 

ECA

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There's a difference between eugenics and mass murdering people based purely on religion/ethnicity.

DUCY?
 

Job

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They were just hurrying it along, at least he gassed most of the Pikeys or we'd be overrun with the fuckers by now.

It's just all this good-evil bolaks, Hitler had every reason to believe we would join him in creating the master race, we started it!
 

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Well maybe, but you'll hear the seedlings of Eugenics everywhere to this day, in these forums in fact.
'They should stop chav's breeding'
You should need a licence to have kids

Exactly what they implemented in the states and were considering in the UK, Winston Churchill no less on board and it's just as alive today.
I hope I get to see it play out :flame:



Problem of course was that until the 1950s all of the theories behind eugenics were just so much bullshit, but because of the Nazis, doing anything overt in terms of human genetic modification/correction once Crick and Watson had discovered DNA was largely politically unacceptable.

Without the nazis, eugenics may well have evolved from bad science (almost all prewar racial theory was nonsense) into good science (genetics), but that's no longer possible. Of course in the long run genetic modification will still happen, its just that it will be driven by different factors; instead of bogus racial theory, it will be driven by good reasons like hereditary disease prevention, but also bad reasons like the insurance industry and human vanity.

The biggest problem with genetic modification is simply "who controls it"? Can any government be trusted with our genetic heritage? Can any private corporation? I'd say "no" on both counts, but its happening anyway.
 

Job

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Most organisms are filtered by evolution, a bit indifferent and uncaring for us to handle, but at least it doesn't have an agenda.
Of course you can create a master race, but it will slowly de-evolve unless you keep going with more and more draconian methods.
As I've posted my worry is this ever increasing underclass and the slow slide of culture to meet it, somewhere , someone is watching.
 

DaGaffer

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Most organisms are filtered by evolution, a bit indifferent and uncaring for us to handle, but at least it doesn't have an agenda.
Of course you can create a master race, but it will slowly de-evolve unless you keep going with more and more draconian methods.
As I've posted my worry is this ever increasing underclass and the slow slide of culture to meet it, somewhere , someone is watching.

No-one's going to create "a master race". Master of what? And there's no such thing as "de-evolving", evolution doesn't have a direction.
 

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