Just for say

[Gahn]

Aldoran, you are a poor minus habens, that's all i have to say for u.
Ah feeling better now.

 

[behatch]

i think nubber sums him up quite nicely

 

[Corran]

Aww leave the poor sod alone. It not his fault he cant play the game. Guess his day goes

1) Hmmm what should i log in. My sb? Nah cant do that. Im so shit i need 5 others by my side to kill any solo person, with no more friends it not an option. Oh wait i got a BD, i dont need skill for that.

2) Log on BD run to a dock to camp and be Mr Skill-less wonder and pound my insta button whilst i strafe. The moment i see an enemy that got half a chance i will run of screaming like a girl as i die otherwise.

3) Email Mythic and ask for BD insta lifetap to be put on a 1second timer as it too hard to play at the moment.

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Hope you enjoy chasing around grey cons by the way aldorans, funny when you cant even kill them as you only use 1 button and never use roots/casted nukes etc

The day a Bd uses a casted nuke followed instantly by their insta is the day that i get scared of them. So much dmg capability they not using on their easy mode character.

Simple fix. Lower the dmg of Insta lifetap and put it on a 30second timer. Give bd a casted Lifetap similar to a sorc which maybe does a little less dmg (compansate that they got insta to inturupt). Would mean it takes a little bit more skill to play and force them to use more tricks from their bag.

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

Simple fix. Lower the dmg of Insta lifetap and put it on a 30second timer. Give bd a casted Lifetap similar to a sorc which maybe does a little less dmg (compansate that they got insta to inturupt). Would mean it takes a little bit more skill to play and force them to use more tricks from their bag.

Nah, that would be the 35th "Death of Midgard"

 

[Groborthir]

Just nearsight the gimp and he's as useless as his SB. :]

 

[aveh]

Your suggested tactics for Bonedancers are weak at best. The casted DD is a baseline spell in the darkness line, whereas the instalifedrain is in the suppression line, where most bonedancers put the majority of their points. More than likely all you'll end up doing is blowing a shitload of power, power that you could have used on instalifedrains to keep you alive when dealing with the 2 infil adds that are always lurking nearby.

As for using roots - possible, but as with casted DD, it requires standing still, and giving the two or three fkers who were following you about on stick all the time in the world to line up their positionals and land their hits with ease. Also, the root will just break the next time you use the insta, so why bother?

Focus snare is a joke, so don't even bother mentioning it as a useful tool.

I've watched Aldorans more or less singlehandedly take down 8 albs within a space of 1-2 minutes. Clearly you have to come up with a better reason than calling him a noob if you want him to change tactics which are simple and utterly effective.

Lastly, increasing the reuse timer on BD insta's isn't a bad idea at all. Removing their combat survivability is exactly the sort of change to a Midgard class that I'd expect from an Alb. Myself, I'd like to see sorcs bolt-range-mezz put on a similar timer, as the fkers seem to spam it with the regularity of a BD and his instalifetap.

 

[Msdot]

cant you guys ever do something else then whine? so sad to see same persons always whining, getting picture of 8 year childs playing theyre first computer game and crying allways when bad guys keep killing them AT GAME. and yes i dont need to read them but what else to read here tbfh .

 

[Corran]

Your suggested tactics for Bonedancers are weak at best. The casted DD is a baseline spell in the darkness line, whereas the instalifedrain is in the suppression line, where most bonedancers put the majority of their points. More than likely all you'll end up doing is blowing a shitload of power, power that you could have used on instalifedrains to keep you alive when dealing with the 2 infil adds that are always lurking nearby.

As for using roots - possible, but as with casted DD, it requires standing still, and giving the two or three fkers who were following you about on stick all the time in the world to line up their positionals and land their hits with ease. Also, the root will just break the next time you use the insta, so why bother?

Focus snare is a joke, so don't even bother mentioning it as a useful tool.

I've watched Aldorans more or less singlehandedly take down 8 albs within a space of 1-2 minutes. Clearly you have to come up with a better reason than calling him a noob if you want him to change tactics which are simple and utterly effective.

Lastly, increasing the reuse timer on BD insta's isn't a bad idea at all. Removing their combat survivability is exactly the sort of change to a Midgard class that I'd expect from an Alb. Myself, I'd like to see sorcs bolt-range-mezz put on a similar timer, as the fkers seem to spam it with the regularity of a BD and his instalifetap.

Decreasing the survivability of a bd? A un-CC'able class that got 2 healing pets and having extra lifetap available (normal nuke lifetap) to compensate for a higher timer on insta. Tell me, how many classes have a insta spell that inturupts and does 500dmg every 5seconds?

Sorc bolt range mezz is for various reasons and doesn't do anything to aid their survival. The reason for bolt range is the fact they got lower health, lower af, no insta, and no other tricks. Put it on a 5 second timer if you wish, but it the only tool to survive and with insta amnesia and Cere Bracer it a tool that easy overwritten by people that know how to play their class/group against them.

Out of interest, are you saying it is fair that a bd can take on 4+people at once and win? no other class can, so i guess it unfair that they cant!? With using something with 'All focus' then the baselines wont effect power too badly, afteral most casters need to use baseline spells often, i know i do on my sorc which i have no choice about, it the only way he can stay alive long enough. I can nuke for a fair time without a problem of power as well, and on top of this i got no focus at the moment as not repaired staff And by the way, it easy for a caster to avoid stealther adds if you got wits about you. 2 nukes move, 2 nukes move. doesnt give them time to get near to you while stealthed. Every normal caster knows this, it just the fact that BD's dont need to do so which makes them clueless.

Oh, and it isnt skillful for a buffed bd to kill many people. You can kill about 4 melee people at a time, casters aint a problem when you can kill them in 15seconds without them getting a cast off due to inturupt of insta. All this while being constantly healed up by pets that are uninturuptale. There lots of small changes that can be made to just bring down the BD a notch so it on a more level playingfield. Believe me it not only BD's i would make changes too, there classes in all 3 realms which need to be looked at.

 

[Gamah]

The best way to "fix" bd's lifetap issue is to reduce the range to 700..wouldn't affect them in PvE and will make them a little more balance in RvR.

 

[Gamah]

Decreasing the survivability of a bd? A un-CC'able class that got 2 healing pets and having extra lifetap available (normal nuke lifetap) to compensate for a higher timer on insta. Tell me, how many classes have a insta spell that inturupts and does 500dmg every 5seconds?

Some of your points are valid However....

1. Bd Lifetap DOES NOT hit for 500...unless you have uber gimped resists. Lifetap hits for around 230 and uses a shit load of power...not so much affecting bds now with toa gear but still uses a lot of power.. SO a bd that takes out 4 people must have wild power 3 a shit load of pots and have enough time for a smoke and to use mcl before killing the last one.

2. My minstrel can CC them pretty good..and AE mez from a mez class would also CC the bd...not sure how they are "un CCable"

 

[Uberlama]

this shows that u never fought with a GOOD bd. tried to fight with Bananplockaren ever ? my sorc has capped resist and still his insta-dds hits for 450 (+crits) all the time, so pls dont think that bd cant hit for much just because u never met a good one

 

[Zapsi]

Just as stupid as animist with LOS or giving mincers stealth and CC.

 

[AngeLujo]

get an infi with disease on his swords and problem is solved if u can land pa/bs2 ;p (most of the time.. there are lucky gits or zerging gits, like aldoran)

 

[Corran]

Some of your points are valid However....

1. Bd Lifetap DOES NOT hit for 500...unless you have uber gimped resists. Lifetap hits for around 230 and uses a shit load of power...not so much affecting bds now with toa gear but still uses a lot of power.. SO a bd that takes out 4 people must have wild power 3 a shit load of pots and have enough time for a smoke and to use mcl before killing the last one.

2. My minstrel can CC them pretty good..and AE mez from a mez class would also CC the bd...not sure how they are "un CCable"

Allure of Death-Free at RR5

Bonedancer appearance is changed to skeletal form for 60 seconds to confuse the enemy. When in skeletal form, the Bonedancer has a 75% chance of out-right resisting Nearsight and all Crowd Control spells.

And bd lifetap hits my sorc with just under capped resists for about 460 most of the time. If your running around with resist buffs it is much lower but i very rarely have said buffs.

 

[Corran]

Just as stupid as animist with LOS or giving mincers stealth and CC.

And yes Zapsi, i would agree with these points as well. As i said, im not biased towards mids/hibs. I include alb classes with it

 

[Azathrim]

Heheh... Albs whine about Aldoran and Mids whine about Aruardy (sp?) and pet.

Rather boring really.

 

[Gamah]

Allure of Death-Free at RR5

Bonedancer appearance is changed to skeletal form for 60 seconds to confuse the enemy. When in skeletal form, the Bonedancer has a 75% chance of out-right resisting Nearsight and all Crowd Control spells.

And bd lifetap hits my sorc with just under capped resists for about 460 most of the time. If your running around with resist buffs it is much lower but i very rarely have said buffs.

So its barley CC-able not Un CC-able , Well maybe I am wrong but you see I am looking from the minstrel perspective where we take them by supprise...I suppose its harder for a sorc who does not have the ability to supprise attack so much if at all ...With Regards to damage, I am experiancing it from a Chain wearing PoV and you from a cloth..which does make a difference.

I suppose its about what class you play...If I take "The Average Joe-noob BD" by supprise I have every chance of ealking away with 800rpts..that said a good bd will chew me up and spit me out. I think how overpowerd you see the BD is bassed from the class which you look at it from.

As far as fighting bananplockarn..I did once...then I had the sence not to attack him again :wub: He hit me for about 300-350 on LT...but players like him are a rare comodity hence you can point him out from the crowd I was basing my assumptions on the average BD.