Ive paid now i wanna PLAY!!

[old.mzungo]

WE need to organise our selves

Ok guy's this is bloody silly! we have all paid our money but we aint getin the fun.

I prpose that we turn up in Barrysworld 5 kata server @ 8.00 sunday and have a good game.
The problem is no one is ever there when you log on ,so lets get organised and play the best UK servers that we have all paid for

send icq N0@s or somthing to each other and get some games organised

Huh !!wot do ya say LETS ROCK

 

[|WarpiG|]

I paid also, not seen any players on any servers on any games that i play.
Will be there on Sunday @ 8PM

1 v 1 then eh!

 

[old.mzungo]

One v one it is m8! we got a start somewhere ill try to mail some peps to get something going

 

[|WarpiG|]

anyone else?
Hope that more will join if they see a server has people on it.

 

[Santro]

It's not the best time to try and meet up - although the idea is sound, cos Sunday nights are the busiest nights of the week for clan matches.

I think you're right though, to get more people to sign up, the servers need to be seen to be used. Nonone is gonna use them though if they're always empty and there are games elsewhere. It's gonna be a problem until a serious amount of T2 players actually subscribe.

 

[old.mzungo]

ok! howe about every available nite we have, @ Say 8.00 we go to a given server and wait for ten mins or so spreading the word that peps will be there ???

 

[|WarpiG|]

well that didnt go according to plan. tnx santro for the game but we didnt even play on that server =)
how are we supposed to get others playing?

Is your Tribe signing up to play on the publics? or you the only one as to get access to bookable ?

Cof is USA tribe, so they have no interest in a UK subscripton =(

An i wanna play TR2 in a BW league, that is if i can catch flags with 56K !

 

[Santro]

Several of eclipse members have subscribed to BW, however, as we have our own server with it's chosen map rotation - most prefer to play on there or on the Euro servers. It's going to be very hard to persuade people to join BW imo when the games are available elsewhere.

 

[Santro]

PS Thanks to all of you for playing - we would normally have had a team practice tonight but were offered a scrim at short notice.

Oh, and about BW subscription, my team kinda think it stinks that they already each pay BW £6 per month (for our server) yet that doesn't even get them BW subscription. They have to fork out another £24 a year for that. Not much point for most of them - especially the foreign guys. The ones that subscribed mainly did it for the hosting deal.

 

[Firtun]

Pity the 8 o'clock thing didnt go to plan, but thanks to Santro for the games. I believe the idea is good. Reasoning it through, then every clan that uses the bookable servers has at least one person subscribed to do the booking..

These are the people who initially need to be encouraged to play on BW, they're the ones that have nothing to lose as they've already paid.

Also it needs to be asked .. what can the BW servers offer over and above the normal publics .. I'd like to believe that they could offer a friendlier environment to play in. Somewhere that perhaps team play is encouraged and fraghunting is not. Where the aim is to play together as a group, to have fun, and to not mind losing. Where fair play and sportsmanship are not some outdated concepts to be ignored. (I know I live in a hole, but I can dream goddamit)

To get people on the servers I agree that people need to be seen on the servers. I'm willing to spend some time on the spare nights I have on the servers, just so they appear populated (not that many spare nights tho, mostly Tuesday and weekends). Maybe this is the way to get people to join (especially on very busy nights when the other popular servers are full).

Errr rant over I think. As usual its a mishmash of halfformed ideas and garbage.


[Hob] Firtun

 

[old.mzungo]

How do we do it ??

Well really this should be the barrysworld team asking this Quetion as its there bussnes model that doenot seam to be working!(Take note barrysworld people)

I dont have a great deal of spare time! but wot iv'e got ill put up maybe if we pooled icq No's or somthing so that we could get organised and meet @ the same time

Any one got any ideas Cough! Cough! Barry's boys .i have little or no experiance @ organising games mostly playing on the pubbies ,wots the usuall contact method .

 

[Firtun]

I'd suggest initially just trying to get people on the servers to show numbers .. having people there is the best way to get people to notice them .. if noone is online then noone will join.

For T2 I'm not sure BW could be bothered to promote. Maybe not enough community numbers as a whole. And they'd probably not give out names due to confidentiality.

As for ICQ .. dont have it, 7 o'clock is a better time for me (can be on the servers until 8 most nights) and even if noone else is there I can practice routes etc. so no big waste of time.

I dont know any other way of getting this working except by word of mouth.. I'll check with my current clan and see how many are signed up with BW, and then try to get them to ask around their m8's etc.

Might take some time to build up tho (if at all, I'm not holding my breath)

[Hob] Firtun

 

[Santro]

Your problem is that ONLY people subscribed can actually see BW's public servers. They don't appear in the T2 browser if you're not a member so there's no incentive to people looking for a game even seeing the fact that people are on there. I'd guess that those that have subscribed are very few judging from the Tribes players I've spoken to.

The way I see it is this: Joe Bloggs fires up his T2 and see's a few poplulated servers with plenty of people on there and NO BW servers. How do you get people like that to join. Most won't even know the option exists for subscription. We are completely invisible. It would actually be better if they could actually see the servers but they were locked. At least that way there's an incentive to investigate further.

Bookable servers are a slightly different matter. A few teams have a member who is subscribed to BW and will do their booking. Having said that, there aren't many. The european scene is extremely small as far as UK players go and those are mainly in just a handful of teams. You could possibly find half of the UK's "clanned players" in just 4 teams. Theoretically, that could mean just 4 members subscribed to BW to gain access to Bookable servers for their team.

Euro players generally aren't interested in paying to play on pay 2 play servers as they really don't see any benefit when they have their own countries GSP's providing free ones with better pings.

The futures not bright for BW T2 imo.

 

[Firtun]

Couldn't agree more about the visibility thing. Thats why its essential to get the people who are already members of BW to join the servers.

If the games are good then word might (I use might) get around thus attracting people to the servers.

I also agree that the future is bleak, but I've paid so I'm going to try and do my part to keep things going.

I dont like that new players wont be able to see the servers, and that BW is effectively disappearing from view, but I'm sure a few clans use the bookables so anyone joining/forming new clans should find out about the private games.

I'm willing to give up some time to try and get at least a few players back on these servers (no matter who should really be doing this promotion).

Nope lost track of my point now .. ah well

[Hob] Firtun

 

[Santro]

Tonight I quickly touted around a few irc channels with people that I knew to try and judge what sort of membership there is amongst the UK players. Suprisingly, there are teams out there which are primarily UK based that don't have a single subscriber to BW. They just aren't interested in paying for it. They use other teams servers for practicing or host their own on their decent connections.

I'd like to see something from BW if they have any stats which allow them to judge membership of particular game players. I suspect that you'd be lucky to see even double figures of "ladder clanned" T2 players who have actually paid and subscribed. That's not very hopeful. They have 0 chance of convincing non-uk players to subscribe from the opinions I've received and apart from the 3 or 4 members of eclipse that paid, noone else is interested in it. They pay their £6 already and we have our own public server. They can't even see the pay 2 play servers. The rest, as I said earlier, did it for hosting reasons.

I wish you luck with your efforts and I'll try to join these servers when I can, but there's only so much you can do at the end of the day.

 

[old.mzungo]

I sent this to barrysworld any comments

Hi ..just a quick line about the changes to your service ..

I understand the reasons behind your move but can’t help but notice that the strategy aint working, how about having public server’s that kicked non subscribing players every 10-15 minutes or so this would encourage people to sign up with you ….the trouble at the moment is out of site out of mind you just don’t exist for a large number of players.

How much could I rent a server for and make it public ?? playing t2 and cs.

Regards Alec AKA mzungo

PS: maybe i better start thinkin about joining a clan to ensure my habit gets a fix ....any offers ???

 

[wivelrod]

Kick people? I see where your coming from Mzungo, but I just think that it might run the risk of pissing off future customers .

I'd quite like to see the number of T2 servers available on BW reduced. Sounds crazy I know. But at the moment we have too few players vs too many servers. By reducing the number of servers the existing subscriber base will be focused onto that lesser number of servers, which might kick start some activity again. Then, as the player base grows, some of the other servers can be switched back on.

This might run the risk of having the switched off servers appropriated for other game servers though...

Mmm mad idea. lol.

I was just getting into playing T2 when BW went sub only. I've subscribed, but as yet have only used that subscription to have a brief go at BF1942. Now I've found myself playing less T2 as BY is generally full, and the european servers frustrate me due to the additional lag they have.

Hoping that BW servers once again become a hive of T2, low ping activity!

 

[|WarpiG|]

wot about a game tonight?

wed 18th @ 8PM or later

barrys CTF 1

ps Are the CM servers borked? constant mission cycle?

 

[Firtun]

Yup same for me on the CM servers .. I'll do me best to be there at 8, no guarantees tho. Got to think up a good excuse for missing praccy.