italian argain pvp community

[Segre]

Dear GoA Staff,

Argain is a piece of us: we just can't forget days passed in this beautiful place. People who lived there (though many of them are enemies) are now a family, a big family. We hated us, we loved us, many friendships started from here... We don't want to miss it all. Money we spent, time we passed, kills we made, are all the story of this server. Though server problems (night lag, bugs, no patches) we all stayed here because we had a dream: that one day someone would take this all and bring us the sun. Time has passed, but this dream is still on. Please, don't throw us away.
We can accept everything, from a /level 50 to a charcopy, but please don't throw away two years of playing...
Anyway, we spent as much time as vortigern players leveling and raising our characters...we don't see the point in transfering only them. We always paid as them and we received back lots of issues in our server, but we didn't give up, thinking that one day we all could reach a place where we could play in the right way. We paid as much as vortigern players, nobody gave us free accounts, we have their same rights. So why only vortigern players can have this "bonus"? In fact, we're always italian players... You are mistreating a minor part of that community, and that isn't right. This is what we call discrimination.
And if this seems it all, well, it's not: we're paying a society that it's failed, with no security for the tomorrow. Nobody is working on the servers and they could even close them whenever they want, without saying a word. At least, if you don't really want to "buy" our destiny (or if you probably think of it but in a far future), please, keep Argain up (maybe without paying, like vortigernian players) until you make a decision.


. Chiara - Ixchel Druid 50, Ayuccia Necromancer 50, Asako Infiltrator 50
. Riccardo - Cora skald 50, Ayrie chierica 50
. Carlo - Asdol-Incantatore 50, Regez-Skald 50
. Damiano - Steiir Paladin 50
. Mattia - Fayen Paladina 50,Neferata Negromante 50
. Alex - Nyliand Savage 44, Giveltan Warden 45
. Gabriele - Nyp Menestrella 50, Divinewill Guaritore 50
. Alberto - Fiamme paladino 50
. Vale - Silly Barda 50, Nixie Eld 48
. Elena - Segrita sciamano 50, Segre druido 50, Minisegre incantatore 35
. Amy - Harwen Incantatrice 50, Irys Guaritrice 50
. Claudio-Storpio bonedancer 50,Pinco savage 50,Storpietta cleric 50
. Michael - Axtanax Bonedancer and Luque Cleric
. Marco – Amos infiltratore 50, Tynr guaritore50, Zorg stregone 50
. Claudio - Storpio bonedancer 50, Pinco savage 50, Storpietta cleric 50
. Diego - Ace Hero 50, Idaiel Druid 50
. Fabio - Aiolia Ranger 50, Khail Friar 50, Relian Druid 50
. Alberto - Bix Maestro d'Armi 50 , Vangelis Custode 50, Yarkes Incantatore 50 ,Mistero Shadoblade 50 ,Crunnor Negromante 50
. Federico-Flaggello Healer 50
. Riccardo - Ramadina prete 50 , Topperino incantatore 49
. Roberto - Cannabiz menestrello 46
. Stefano - Nelleron incantatore 50, Avathar blademaster 50, Wroth sciamano 50, Aveth chierico
. Irene - Bellella, druida 50, Merit maestro d'armi 50, Misteria Shadowblade 50, Viromar negromante 50
. Marco - Speedypizza Skald 50
. Claudio - Raiken hero 50, Rhirann skald 48
. Francesco - Atroce Sciamano 50, Dracnos Skald 50
. Andrea - ladyviper infi 50, eyes sciut 50, negromante 50
. Fabio - Majere Eld 50, Ehra Barda 50, Hellm negromante 50, Loto Blademaster 46 Panaks Legendary armorer
. Nicola - Niks Bonedancer 50 Legendary taylor
. Andrea - Onerkos druido 50,Abissi mercenario 50
. Demetrio - Adalgisa prete 50 , Essendo negromante 50
. Francesco - Darkozzo selvaggio 50
. Massimiliano - Alenor campione 50
. Michele - Khondar guaritore 50
. Gabriele - Kean Infiltratore 50
. Er Banana - Darkarchaon Warrior 50 -.-
. Claudio - Clo Shaman 50
. Walter - Perla Infiltratore 50
. Rocco - Revengez Shadowblade 50
. Mario - Darkphoenix Bonedancer 50
. Gianluca - Manfred Bonedancer 50
. Claudio - WalterAdrian Healer 50
. Roberto - Spadge Ombra 50
. Nicoletta - Cara Healer 50
. Daniele - Esaraden Spiritmaster 50
. Arvi - Tronzo Champion 50
. Francesco - Atroce Shaman 50
. Er Frittata - Darkmorgan Runemaster 50 -.-
. Luca - Junta Menestrello 50
. Federico - KrastiSavage 50
. Giuseppe - Hellsilent Ombra 50
. Diego - Naxit Savage 50
. Marcus - Sid Campione 50,Seilormun Shammy 35
. Raffaele -Lombo Mercenary 50, Lomboscuro Nightshade 50, Lomboz Nightshade 50,Lech Animist 50, Custode Warden 50, Skulldeath Necromancer 50, Lombetto Cleric 50
. Archimede - BurberoSavage 50, Pitstu thane 50, diviner healer 50 , animista fungarolo 50
. Antonio - Vulfthyr 50 hero, Extrema chanter 50
. Antonio - Shiro warden 50, Tremors ice wizzi 50
. Giuseppe - Yorg runemaster 50
. Fabio - Ashur Shadowblade 50, Hellriser Negromante 50
. Marco - Lox, Incantatore 50, Amleto Chierico 50,Hexen Campione 50, Mysterius Shadowblade 50
. Luca - Kudan skald 50, Piccolokudan runemaster 50, Lostangel chierico 50
. Franco - Icemanx infiltrator 50, Hawk hunter 50, Noeasywayout cleric 50, Cobra necromancer 50
. Massimo - Astes Menestrello 50
. Fabio - Naylind Guerriero 50, Xagalith Mentalista 50
. Sergio - Necromantex Necromancer 50
. Giuseppe - Puffobuffo Sciaman 50
. Corrado -Noob Enchanter 50,Robhe Shadowblade 36,Stunmachine Healer 34,Puffox Savage 34, Toofast Minstrel 36
. Paolo - Engharat Bonedancer 50, Maren Reaver 50
. Nevio - Tisifone Thane 50, Elvenis Valewalker 50
. Giorgio - Vampyrius BoneDancer 50
. Paolo - Skascalos Necromancer 50
. Giuseppe - Hellsilent ombra 50, Kelsen Menestrello 50
. Mirko - Eliardim Incantatore 50, Paljn teurgo 49
. Furio - Monaco Prete 50
. Michele - Brodinosughisbrothe arcimago 50
. Marco - Ritorno Paladino 50
. Tyorth - Bonedancer 50 Tyoorthalas, Ombra 50 Rockest, Sciamano 50 Pyn, Animista 47 Tyoorthagrunt, Warrior 44 Deuss,Teurgo 41
. Paolo - Ogrim Armsman 50,Margroth Negromante 50, Mannie Infiltratore 50,Tachi Druido 50
. Francesco - Lourikeen Enchanter 50
. Carlo - Tanadon Paladin 32
. Matteo - Lin Chierico 50,Teox Selvaggio 50,Unelfo Incantatore 50
. Stefano - Sheno Prete 50,Qirag Necromante 47
. Leo - Spard selva,Arlene sb,Mapo sciammy
. Ale - Zaidon selva 50,Ephel sb 50,Zai sm 50
. Daniele - Pedalino guari 50
. Francesco - Bollo zerk 50,Solomio sciamano 50
. Fabio - Evodhmaine savage 46
. Mattia - Dodicesimo 50,Uoz 50, Stick 50,Eteria 50
. Max - Maxemp eroe 50,Mas stregone 50,Blackjak negromante 50,Tak prete 49,99
. Michele - Abacucco Enchanter 50
. Sara - Malhy selvaggia 50, Safrin incantatrice 50, Wakenzy sciamano 46,Maljgna shadowblade 35
. Danilo - Animalia bonedancer 50,Controller sciamano 50,Hiperion shadowblade 50,Vispa bonedancer50,Abominia necromante 50,Strellea animista 50,Stormy animista 50,Enciancia necromante 48,Vailant custode 46,Kyk healer 45
. Alessandro - Meglio Cleric 50, Mornon Reaver 50
. Michele - Edomak necromante 50,Perdell menestrello 50,Kelyddon 50
. Lorenzo - Glasny 50, Caeleex 50,Ayla 50
. Antonio - Cavalier sciamano 50,Onofrio paladino 49
. Luigi -Dolce&gabbana bonedancer 50
. Filippo - Legionx mercenario 50
. Manuel - Evilgatsu esploratore 50,Nash campione 50,Drainsoka negromante 50,Ombradimorte ombra 33,Mortalcry reaver 35
. Enrico - Biros chierico 49,Cody ombra 47,Edoa reaver 46,Hitomi selvaggio 28
. Nicola - Argonath guaritore 50,Lenirbh champ 50,Soulmaster necro 50,Petrucci bd 31,Jorigdig bers 19,Borsch sauvage 24,Tesbrego inca 18.
. Giulio - Jero Berserker 50,Calvin Spiritmaster 50,Furianera Infiltratore 50,Jerox Reaver 47
. Alfredo - Incubo shadowblade 50,Negru negromante 47,Incubardo bardo 45
. Matia - Reginadellelame shadowblade 50,Sagremors Paladino 49,Signoredeinuker inca 48,Signoredellexp negromante 50
. Claudio - Deimoc Menestrello 50,Stai Infiltratore 50,Nymess Negromante 50
. Federico - Beccati Sciamano 50
. Franco - Viceversa paladina 50,Exceed menestrella 50
. Andrea - Heresy thane 50,Blasfemy Sb 50
. Leonardo - Visoaculo lv 50 Spiritmaster,Belloccio lv 50 Healer,Marachella lv 50 Savage, Fenork lv 50 Infiltrator
. Fabio - Velmer Bd 50,Razyell infi 50,Ramstein paladino 50,Angoscia negromante 50,Demoniaca negromante 50,Devis menestrello 44,Htena skald 40
. Ambra - Amo infiltratrice 50,Alkea guritrice 46
. Germano - Flask Friar 50,Crisma Shaman 50,Nycrus Necromancer 50,Apatheia Healer 44
. Stefano - Necromante 50 Mastica,Infiltrator 48,Slayn Bardo 44 Ossiann
. Martina - Harpia Zerk 50
. Luca - Tuor campione 50,Arawend necromante 50,Mance shadowblade 47
. Diana - Angizia prete 50,Febe negromante 46,Eria guaritrice 44
. Alessandro - Nightmarebonekiller bonedancer 50,Nabuki shadowblade 47,Knightofdeath negromante 46
. Antonio - Shalafy bonedancer 50 , Cloudant eroe 50, Ekateryna menestrella 46
. Fabrizio - Ekaterina Shadowblade 50
. Mario - Webcam Negromante 50, Seveic Infiltratore 50, Dwenrap Berseker 50, Gaun Chierico 50, Web Guaritore 45, Wendacan Arcimago 45 e Boromirr Incantatore 42
. Andrea - Darckh reaver 49
. Marco - Andoran paladino 41
. virgilio - Hosh menestrello 50,Drummy selvaggio 50,Tezuka arcimago 50,Drumas negromante 50,Zin chierico 46
. Andrea - Nerull paladino 50,Neruil paladino 50
. Elmer - Yreon Menestrello 50,Rardodan Negromante 50,Artiglia Guaritrice 7 (legg. spellcrafter),Elroch Teurgo 7 (legg. tailor)
. Michele - Bahore Infi 50,Granitica Selvaggia 50
. Francesco - Ludox mercenario 50,Advalor negromante 46
. Pasquale- Proximo Berserker 50
. Anna- Zumurrud Skald 50, Jackiebrown Infi 46
. Davide - Rozzo Selvaggio 50
. Francesco - Safrin Incantatrice 50,Malhy Selvaggio 50,Hairoden Eroe 41,Wakenzy Sciamano 46
. Gianluca - Sheena Healer 50, Amoand Warrior 50, Ailimdira Runemaster 50 (legendary tailor), Erenthor Necromancer 43
. Michela - Rancid Barda 50
. Luca - Kyora paladino 16
. Christian - Seveic lvl 50,Gaun lvl 50 Webcam lvl 50, Dwenrap 50
. Daniele - Vandred infiltratore 50, Future prete 50 , Jeson negromante 50, Ili Druido 42
. Maxy - Furiadivina sb 50,Spezzacuori teurgo 50,Furiaz guari 43,Morain mene 36, Ethelred prete 36,Loxino inca 35
. Fabrizio - Morgar bonedancer 50, Zaicosumiz bers 46, Furiamortale infiltratore 38
. Laura - Nemain mercenaria 24, Nornir infiltratrice 24
. Mirko - Maeve Guaritrice livello 45, Luce Chierica livello 46
. Darico - Nighthero hero 50, Nightcleric cleric 48
. Lorenzo - Dragona selvaggia 50, Okkioche selvaggio 50, Shadovirgil shadowblade 50, Pomodorosl reaver42,Infivirgil infiltratore 35, Stellare spiritmaster 38, Belloo Bonedancer 48
. Ciro - Ectelion incantatore 50,Rim****all infiltratore 46,Shammyinside sciamano 48
. Roberto - Roliffo Paladino 50 su Vortigern
. Roberto - Ira cacciatore 50, Tenebra shadowblade 50, Terrore skald 50





We need staff's e-mail for send our petition...... tnx

 

[Nicci]

In fact, we're always italian players... You are mistreating a minor part of that community, and that isn't right. This is what we call discrimination.

Imho, just be gratefull GOA wants to take over those servers instead of let em die slowly....

 

[Otep]

Well GoA taking over Vortigern is nice, but GoA should take this server to.. Would at least give 300-400more paying customers, wich is more then needed to pay that server... (looking on prydwen population)..

Else you'll lose 400 _important_ customers more to the hype: WoW. :touch:

 

[Taro Swarosky]

ehm..sorry but the active characters of italian pvp server are..hum? >80?
in the primetime maybe 90 chars lol

 

[IainC]

Hello there.
The decision not to migrate Argain was taken for several reasons. Legal and licensing issues being amongst them as well as purely financial ones.
We aren't 'discriminating' against any part of the Italian community, we were only able to open one server and, as Vortigern was far and away the most popular server, we felt we had to do what was right for the largest number of players. As a player myself I know how devastated I'd be if all the work I'd put into my characters was taken away. Unfortunately the decision is made for us by external pressures.

Ultimately, you have the same option as the other Italian players from Vortigern, you can still play on Deira although you will have to create new characters if you didn't have Vortigern characters before CTO closed down.

We hope that in time all Italian players will feel at home in the Goa community, we're certainly working as hard as we can to get you the same things as other European players have had.

 

[[GOA]Erivoss]

Ok I have talked about this with the head people here and they've confirmed to me that only Vortigern characters have been transfered. No other server characters will be transfered to us. In any case transfering the PvP server character database would be extremely complicated as not only are we dealing with two completely different character db but also because of the version difference. A lot of things have changed in the character db between 1.60 and 1.70 and we would litterally have to copy each and every character over manually if we were to do this. This would take hundreds and hundreds of man hours, hours that we sadly cannot spare at this time.

I'm very sorry but that is our final word on this matter.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

We hope that in time all Italian players will feel at home in the Goa community, we're certainly working as hard as we can to get you the same things as other European players have had.

if you start doing a good job, or at least take the players complaints seriously (lag issues, server crashes and what not) then maybe even the other "members of the goa community" will feel at home with you aswell.

cos other European players have had our share of shit with your "precious" goa aswell ^^

to the italian based players on the doomed server:
Come to Camlann, it's far from overpopulated and there's alot of nice fights to be had there.

 

[Flimgoblin]

if you start doing a good job, or at least take the players complaints seriously (lag issues, server crashes and what not) then maybe even the other "members of the goa community" will feel at home with you aswell.

cos other European players have had our share of shit with your "precious" goa aswell ^^

to the italian based players on the doomed server:
Come to Camlann, it's far from overpopulated and there's alot of nice fights to be had there.

correction _some_ other european players.

Majority of us are quite happy to be honest (at least the majority of those of us who understand how lag works). Don't go whinging in my name.

 

[Sendraks]

Majority of us are quite happy to be honest (at least the majority of those of us who understand how lag works).

He's right again.

I love it when people like Bloodaxe assume that everyone feels the same way they do.

Sure I'm not happy about the lag, but I have a realistic understanding of what GoA are able to do about it and what I can do to help.

I also sometimes wonder why the GOA GMs post here, given the amount of abuse they get. But then I remember that the foul mouthed idiots here represent the vocal minority of the European playerbase and the the GOA GMs are trying to help the majority of people, who don't spend their time hurling abuse.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

well, i was more talking about the response we get when we issue anything to them on "right now" and recieve an autoresponse and never hear from them again regardless the nature of the problem.
wether its lag or anything else.
but then again, mythic is the biggest foozle here as they go around gimping classes beyond usage wich ppl have spent years on optimising. (that annoys ME more)

i do understand how lag works flimgoblin, but when goa leaves it up to us to gather evidense instead of doing something themselves it kinda leaves me with the feeling they dont fucking care as long as they get subs cash wich prolly not far from the truth.
also, leaving the players to gather evidense against radar users instead of doing anything themselves etc.
need i say more?
i doubt goa are the worst, but they arent above average when it comes to customer support and reaction time when something blows up.

 

[Jobil]

Ok I have talked about this with the head people here and they've confirmed to me that only Vortigern characters have been transfered. No other server characters will be transfered to us. In any case transfering the PvP server character database would be extremely complicated as not only are we dealing with two completely different character db but also because of the version difference. A lot of things have changed in the character db between 1.60 and 1.70 and we would litterally have to copy each and every character over manually if we were to do this. This would take hundreds and hundreds of man hours, hours that we sadly cannot spare at this time.

I'm very sorry but that is our final word on this matter.

i know we can't flame GM's and i dont really want to either, im sure they're just as decent chaps as the rest of us, but - god damn i would feel like some had raped me in the rear for 2 years and´such cancel my account, make really fucking sure my cc would never EVER again have any connection with the provider of such services. I'd be sure to tell everybody i knew the services provided here were an abomination to all things decent....
not pointed Erivoss but to the Powers to Be he represents.....

 

[Lethul]

Ok I have talked about this with the head people here and they've confirmed to me that only Vortigern characters have been transfered. No other server characters will be transfered to us. In any case transfering the PvP server character database would be extremely complicated as not only are we dealing with two completely different character db but also because of the version difference. A lot of things have changed in the character db between 1.60 and 1.70 and we would litterally have to copy each and every character over manually if we were to do this. This would take hundreds and hundreds of man hours, hours that we sadly cannot spare at this time.

I'm very sorry but that is our final word on this matter.

lol, would it take to much of your precious ******** time to actually be nice against those players? poor poor goa with so little time on your hands.

im sorry for every italian player who have had their char's moved to this useless company

 

[Sendraks]

i do understand how lag works flimgoblin, but when goa leaves it up to us to gather evidense instead of doing something themselves it kinda leaves me with the feeling they dont fucking care as long as they get subs cash wich prolly not far from the truth.

It has been explained, repeatedly, why it is helpful for us to assist GoA in obtaining the ping plot information to help fix the lag problem. It does not mean that they are doing nothing themselves, but by seeking the assist of the members of the player base who are both intelligent and helpful, they can assimilate a large body of evidence far more quickly than they could themselves.

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[Takhasis]

lol, would it take to much of your precious ******** time to actually be nice against those players? poor poor goa with so little time on your hands.

im sorry for every italian player who have had their char's moved to this useless company

if u hate GOA that much, why do u still play?

 

[Naetha]

At the end of the day it comes down to money. If it takes xxx number of man-hours to transfer all the Argain characters somewhere else, then that is going to cost XXX number of Euros. So where's this money going to come from? Does the Italian daoc community want to stump up several thousand € to have their chars transferred? Or do the current EU daoc subsribers want to see their subs double?

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

It has been explained, repeatedly, why it is helpful for us to assist GoA in obtaining the ping plot information to help fix the lag problem. It does not mean that they are doing nothing themselves, but by seeking the assist of the members of the player base who are both intelligent and helpful, they can assimilate a large body of evidence far more quickly than they could themselves.

Why is this so hard to understand?

why do u repeadedly only mention lag issue, ok maybe im wrong regarding the lag issue but GoA aint fucking innocent in treating customers bad, slow response time, servers dead for 2 days with no explanation anywhere, and practically given the players responsibility to gather evidence of radar abuse wich btw is more or less impossible for us.
things might seem strange but dont have to mean they are cheating.

but if your so in love with goa ill let you have that opinion, i am not very satisfied and im not the onlyone.

 

[Lethul]

if u hate GOA that much, why do u still play?

cause i like the game mythic made?

 

[Lethul]

why do u repeadedly only mention lag issue, ok maybe im wrong regarding the lag issue but GoA aint fucking innocent in treating customers bad, slow response time, servers dead for 2 days with no explanation anywhere, and practically given the players responsibility to gather evidence of radar abuse wich btw is more or less impossible for us.
things might seem strange but dont have to mean they are cheating.

but if your so in love with goa ill let you have that opinion, i am not very satisfied and im not the onlyone.

here is one more *raises hand*

 

[pmarino]

Hello there.
The decision not to migrate Argain was taken for several reasons. Legal and licensing issues being amongst them as well as purely financial ones.
We aren't 'discriminating' against any part of the Italian community, we were only able to open one server and, as Vortigern was far and away the most popular server, we felt we had to do what was right for the largest number of players. As a player myself I know how devastated I'd be if all the work I'd put into my characters was taken away. Unfortunately the decision is made for us by external pressures.

Ultimately, you have the same option as the other Italian players from Vortigern, you can still play on Deira although you will have to create new characters if you didn't have Vortigern characters before CTO closed down.

We hope that in time all Italian players will feel at home in the Goa community, we're certainly working as hard as we can to get you the same things as other European players have had.

We want to know if it is possible onother solution.
Not to migrate our PvP server.

We can buy a Daoc-Goa-English regular account a and make level 1 PG on your PvP server with the same name of our old PG in PvP Italian Server.

Then we give to you (in a web form) our id and pass of old Italian Account and you can CHARCOPY the carachter/s from the old Server to Your PvP server.

We have the satisfaction to have our PG back.

You have 100 or more active account on Your PvP server without any cost.
No dedicated server.
Only the cost of charcopy.

How do you thing about this solution?

TY, Paolo

PS Pardon for my terrible english

 

[Sendraks]

why do u repeadedly only mention lag issue,

because its the FOTM whine for the players doing something to help fix a problem,.

but GoA aint fucking innocent in treating customers bad, slow response time, servers dead for 2 days with no explanation anywhere, and practically given the players responsibility to gather evidence of radar abuse wich btw is more or less impossible for us.

You assume that gathering evidence of radar abuse is easy for them. I doubt their software can detect any new Radar programmes that come out, as it will be geared towards detecting the software they know about. So if you see someone who you think might be radaring, seems only right to me that you should take screenies (the evidence) send it to GoA and ask them to investigate. That is the process that I know of.

but if your so in love with goa ill let you have that opinion, i am not very satisfied and im not the onlyone.

Awww, the classic, you disagree with my whine so I'll make some facile comment that you "love" goa retort.

I don't love em, but they have provided me with a good service to date within the bounds of their ability to do so.

You are not satisified and you are not the only one that feels that way.

So what?

I am satisified and I am also not the only one that feels that way.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

We want to know if it is possible onother solution.
Not to migrate our PvP server.

We can buy a Daoc-Goa-English regular account a and make level 1 PG on your PvP server with the same name of our old PG in PvP Italian Server.

Then we give to you (in a web form) our id and pass of old Italian Account and you can CHARCOPY the carachter/s from the old Server to Your PvP server.

We have the satisfaction to have our PG back.

You have 100 or more active account on Your PvP server without any cost.
No dedicated server.
Only the cost of charcopy.

How do you thing about this solution?

TY, Paolo

PS Pardon for my terrible english

That might be a good solution for you, but a bad one for me as there will pop up hordes of purples that i will be green to and get spamkilled by

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

You assume that gathering evidence of radar abuse is easy for them. I doubt their software can detect any new Radar programmes that come out, as it will be geared towards detecting the software they know about. So if you see someone who you think might be radaring, seems only right to me that you should take screenies (the evidence) send it to GoA and ask them to investigate. That is the process that I know of.

i never said it was easy for them, but it's impossible for the players.
doing something about it is their responsibility as we pay for a service they provide and some misuse the same service wich affect the non cheaters in a way that lowers the quality of their service and THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM TO FIX!!!
seriously do you think that's too much to ask?

3 online staff members (1 per realm) running around with chars without skin on their chars would bring alot of ppl that use radar attracted to them, snooping around to find them etc. and they could investigate those incidents closer etc.

old suggestion, cheap and more effective than doing absolutely nothing.

 

[Tilda]

i never said it was easy for them, but it's impossible for the players.
doing something about it is their responsibility as we pay for a service they provide and some misuse the same service wich affect the non cheaters in a way that lowers the quality of their service and THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM TO FIX!!!
seriously do you think that's too much to ask?

3 online staff members (1 per realm) running around with chars without skin on their chars would bring alot of ppl that use radar attracted to them, snooping around to find them etc. and they could investigate those incidents closer etc.

old suggestion, cheap and more effective than doing absolutely nothing.

Bloodaxe, please get a clue.
If goa told people that they were both looking for rader users, and how they did it, it would be 10x harder to catch people.
GoA do catch people who radar fairly regularly. However they dont publicise it.
Rather than jumping on the whinewaggon for once, and assuming goa do nothing. Why not use your cerebrum for once? They do catch radar userers and other cheatsers. Just because you dont get an email each week saying "omg meijts we banz0red 18 radar users this week, who r0xs m8?!" dosnt meen that they are doing nothing.

Tilda

 

[Flimgoblin]

We want to know if it is possible onother solution.
Not to migrate our PvP server.

We can buy a Daoc-Goa-English regular account a and make level 1 PG on your PvP server with the same name of our old PG in PvP Italian Server.

Then we give to you (in a web form) our id and pass of old Italian Account and you can CHARCOPY the carachter/s from the old Server to Your PvP server.

We have the satisfaction to have our PG back.

You have 100 or more active account on Your PvP server without any cost.
No dedicated server.
Only the cost of charcopy.

How do you thing about this solution?

TY, Paolo

PS Pardon for my terrible english

not sure how easy it is to charcopy a char through 11 (or 13 by february) versions and translate it

especially given it's the pvp code and not the normal server code so it'll be different from updating the vortigern database.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

"omg meijts we banz0red 18 radar users this week, who r0xs m8?!" Tilda

i wouldnt care if they named and shamed them or not as long as they dissapeared.
but i doubt they would talk quite as "1337" as you do Tilda ^^

well even if they where doing something pre NF it clearly wasnt enough, the amount of hib grp's that came running in 220mph straight at you everytime you destealhed anywhere in the emain area b4 NF is proof of that.
not good enough proof for goa to ban them ofc as its word against word, but as stealther you really could notice who where probably using radar and who didnt.
i think they where doing nothing until NF launched and hoped the "anti radar code" would fix the problem for them tbh.

besides, the reason i believe goa is not doing what they can in this issue is due to the unproffessional behaviour they have repeatedly showed in other issues.
if GoA hadnt had seriously fucked up a few times then no one would have any reason to doubt them would we?

 

[Sendraks]

, the amount of hib grp's that came running in 220mph straight at you everytime you destealhed anywhere in the emain area b4 NF is proof of that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen all these kind of radar accusations before. If they were using radar, and you took screenies and mailed them to goa, I'm sure they'd be banned if they were found to be using a 3rd party prog.

not good enough proof for goa to ban them ofc as its word against word,

Indeed, because of course if you told GOA "OMG I got owned in RvR, they must be radar users," but fail to provide any evidence, how on earth can the investigate?

When you report a crime to the police, if you want to accuse someone, you have to have some basis and evidence to enable you, or the prosecution, to do so. But I suppose the police suck eh, for not finding the evidence and providing it for you?

but as stealther you really could notice who where probably using radar and who didnt.

What is it you want GOA to do? Respond to every unsubstantiated claim of evidence with a thorough trawl of their servers?

Now that would be unprofessional of them.

 

[Brelakor]

Well, they dont have to copy them, just recreate them.

Im sure it would be alot of work, but it would be the decent thing to do for our new italian friends.

They wouldnt have to recreate the gear for them either i guess, some random gear used for questing and toaing up the character should suffice i guess.

I for one hope GoA can help them, and our pvp server is abit underpopulated anyway tho right?

 

[scorge]

i feel sorry for those that got legendary crafters and find that all those hours crafting and plat where wasted

There is nothing more tedious then craftiing...

 

[Awarkle]

hey i dont mind manually copying all the files across into a new database ill do it for free if you likes

i used to work in data entry so you could even suply all the data on paper format and a blank db

go on let me be helpful

<god being unemployed sucks I GOT A 2:2 IN GAMES SOFTWARE ENGINEERING>

 

[Xplo]

GOA don't catch my radar though meighters ;<

It would be possible for the ppl to have 1 char /level 50 and have some money compensation to start with. They do have to redo their SC with TOA anyway.