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Not nearly enough.
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evilmonkeh
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not enough
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dysfunction
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Not enough
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Damini
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Four and a half years = three ish with good behaviour, and that's not nearly enough. Mind you, if he'd raped her and taken photos, it would only have added another six months to his sentence anyway.
Jail shouldn't be about the risk of re-offending, it should also about punishing the initial incident.
Jail shouldn't be about the risk of re-offending, it should also about punishing the initial incident.
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Ash!
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No where near enough.
I sometimes sympathise with the Magistrates and Judges though. Even though they would propbably want to give a longer setence, their hands are tied. Each classification of crime carries its own maximum sentence. In this case he got of lightly
I sometimes sympathise with the Magistrates and Judges though. Even though they would propbably want to give a longer setence, their hands are tied. Each classification of crime carries its own maximum sentence. In this case he got of lightly
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Testin da Cable
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right. he should be forced to lick out diapers for the duration he spends in prison. the other inmates should be told in advance that he likes to hurt babies.
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kameleon
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He should be put in HMP Risley, where inmates are integrated with general population
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lolvenom
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The law thinks its enough.
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mank!
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Can someone explain that to me? You don't drop a kid on the floor, punch her then throw her in her cot if you don't intend to harm her.
Not enough, and youth institutes just breed crime. They just brag about it to each other then come out and commit more serious crime.
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bastard*
sorry - but needed to be said
sorry - but needed to be said
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You do realise you linked to two different legal systems? Cardif (Wales) uses the English legal system, whereas the 2nd link from Scotland, they use their own legal system. And as such the Scotish case has no relevence as to the sentence of the Cardif one. He would have got more than an extra 6 months in Wales.
Just thought I'd point that out before somebody starts on the whole 'OMG THE LEGAL SYSTEM SUX'
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Damini
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Yeah, I knew one was in Wales and one was in Scotland, but it's not like linking to an Iran news article and saying "Well, in this case they stoned the person to death, OMG the judges are erratic!". It's all in the UK.
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If it wasn't for the CoC there'd be some harsh language here.
So instead....he's a very naughty man.
So instead....he's a very naughty man.
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old.Fweddy
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Would never of happened if he didn't play violent computer games.
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Cdr
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You may aswell linked to one in Iran
It doesnt matter that they are in the UK, they use seperate legal systems and are not interlinked - judges in England and Wales dont followed Scottish precedent, the same way Scottish judges dont follow English judges.
The likelihood of the guy just getting an extra 6 months in an English court is very small.
I know I'm being slightly pedantic, but, I just dont like to see the Law being used wrongly (thats what we have judges for
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Damini
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I understand very well that each country has its own precidents set in law, but we live in the UK, which means that these countries are all associated if not directly responsive to the same laws and legislation, and the common theme was "is this sentence suitable" so I linked it to a similar situation.
Maybe I should have phrased it better, but the point is the same (i.e. suitability of sentence), the precise legalities of it differ, that's all.
Maybe I should have phrased it better, but the point is the same (i.e. suitability of sentence), the precise legalities of it differ, that's all.
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Ahhh okay pokey
Unfortunately, most sentences these days are low, mainly becuase there's more emphasis on rehabilitation rather than punishment. A result of the Labour government and the decreasing number of places avalible in prison.
There's also a trend developing in the lower courts, with the more minor crimes, magistrates unwilling to hand out custodial sentences for theft or assault, they'd rather give the convicted community service as they see it as a better solution. In their eyes the criminal gets his 'punishment' and the community gets something back. 9/10 the crim will not turn up for the community service.
Unfortunately, most sentences these days are low, mainly becuase there's more emphasis on rehabilitation rather than punishment. A result of the Labour government and the decreasing number of places avalible in prison.
There's also a trend developing in the lower courts, with the more minor crimes, magistrates unwilling to hand out custodial sentences for theft or assault, they'd rather give the convicted community service as they see it as a better solution. In their eyes the criminal gets his 'punishment' and the community gets something back. 9/10 the crim will not turn up for the community service.
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Yoni
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To me its completely unbelievable that ANYone would want to harm another human being let alone a baby who can not speak up / look after itself.
4.5 years just is not long enough regardless of the age of the person. How can some of the youth of today have this little respect for life that they can possibly be "oki" with this behavoir?
4.5 years just is not long enough regardless of the age of the person. How can some of the youth of today have this little respect for life that they can possibly be "oki" with this behavoir?
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four and a half years is nowhere near enough
i just hope the guy gets raped in the showers by mr big on a daily basis
i just hope the guy gets raped in the showers by mr big on a daily basis
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thats what i liked about saddamms regieme, people like him would be shiot.
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Don't underestimate the skill and experience of judges, they see all kinds of shit, and have to weigh the cases on their individual merits. They know more about this kind of thing than the 'throw away the key' brigade.
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Do it the chinese way.
Bullet in the head, send his family the empty casing and charge them for the bullet.
That's what he deserves for abusing a baby. The majority of you might not have kids yet... but I promise you: once you have children of your own, you'll understand.
Four years labor camp sounds good, too... doesn't it?
But he'll most likely spend his days watching TV plus the occasional session with a very understanding psychologist.
Bullet in the head, send his family the empty casing and charge them for the bullet.
That's what he deserves for abusing a baby. The majority of you might not have kids yet... but I promise you: once you have children of your own, you'll understand.
Four years labor camp sounds good, too... doesn't it?
But he'll most likely spend his days watching TV plus the occasional session with a very understanding psychologist.
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*Kill*
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SoWat
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Very sad, but also very true.
He'll probably get more support than the child will.
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mank!
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Oh yes, all to reintegrate him as a valuable member of society.
Wait, hold on. It's a bit fucking late for that.
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not at all enough :/