Introducing Windows Vista

[Joor]

Bill Gates Celebrates Worldwide General Availability of Windows Vista and the 2007 Microsoft Office System

January 29, 2007

From Times Square in New York City, Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates hosted the worldwide launch of Windows Vista and the 2007 Microsoft Office System. The celebration paid tribute to the millions of Microsoft customers, partners and product testers around the world who provided input and feedback on these products -- helping Microsoft transform the way people communicate, create and share content, and access information and entertainment in the new digital age.

http://www.microsoft.com/winme/0701/29339/GA_Launch_MBR.asx

 

[Mojo]

The real beta testing begins!

 

[Joor]

I got my vista ultimate yesterday, and it's actually better than I expected.
x264 encoding is 30% faster with vista, burning CD's is faster, extracting RAR files is faster.. only problem for me is GFX driver support(openGL).

 

[Steffan-]

I like Vista aswell, seems to run very smoothly, my be because it's still running on a newly formatted disc, but seems better than XP... Specially like the new gadgets in it xD Not tried running anything else besides some programs like Visual Studio, Eclipse, NetBeans and stuff. Tried DAoC, but couldn't get it to work on my Business version, crashes right after I click the realm I want to play in, tried all the advices I could find, but nothing worked. Just gonna wait for some more patches, and hope it'll get fixed in time, if I still want to play DAoC by then hehe.

 

[Litmus]

glad ifound this thread, today i have been thinking about buying Vista, but pretty confussed at the mo. I was looking on scans website i was going to buy the home premium version.

How ever when i clicked on the item there was a note in red highlight saying only the 32bit version was shipped and there was information in the box on how to upgrade to 64bit?? wtf??. do you have to pay extra to upgrade to 64bit?

Also the OEM version only costs £75 which sounds to good to be true compared to the £200 for retail. Would the OEM work just the same as the retail or are there some restristions?

hope someone can make it black and white for me, dunno why they have made it so confuseing, theres upgrade versions and all sorts you can buy.

 

[Afran]

Just be careful, it still has quite some issues and doesn't support opengl etc properly, also if you upgrade to Vista it will invalidate your WinXP key, meaning if you wan't to reformat and use Vista again you'd have to purchase another WinXP key since Vista requires a valid WinXP key to install.

 

[Joor]

When you buy the 32bit Ultimate DVD you get all these versions;
Windows Vista Business
Windows Vista Business N
Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Vista Home Basic N
Windows Vista Home Premium
Windows Vista Starter
Windows Vista Ultimate

Atleast the danish version i have

 

[Joor]

About OpenGL support, there a new ati driver out now

CrossFire™ support under Vista

Catalyst™ 7.1 introduces CrossFire™ support for the entire ATI Radeon X1000 product series under Microsoft Vista. Users will see significant performance gains in a number of applications when running in CrossFire™ mode under Windows Vista. (Initially available for Direct3D only, coming soon in a future Catalyst™ release for OpenGL)
Native OpenGL Vista support

Catalyst™ 7.1 introduces native support for OpenGL, delivering a number of OpenGL application performance gains over the previously released AMD Vista RTM driver (8.31.100.3.2.1). Future Catalyst™ releases will include further OpenGL optimizations to further enhance performance of Vista OpenGL applications
Catalyst™ Install Manager for Vista

Catalyst™ 7.1 provides Microsoft Vista users with a new ATI Radeon graphics installer that will help users more easily update and install ATI Catalyst™ software. Users will also experience a significant improvement in install and un-install Verdana of ATI Catalyst™ software components.
New Catalyst™ Control Center

Catalyst™ 7.1 introduces a brand new version of the Catalyst™ Control Center for Windows Vista, which delivers a number of significant enhancements:

* Significant performance gains; Catalyst™ Control Center start-up time has been substantially reduced, and overall responsiveness has improved.
* Reduced system resource usage
* New 3D preview - significantly improves the ability for users to understand the benefits of enabling the many Catalyst™ features of their ATI Radeon graphics accelerator
* Increased stability
* Native Windows Vista 32-bit and 64-bit support

Resolved Issues

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Vista driver. These include:

* Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter: Intermittent Display corruption is no longer noticed within the game when setting the in game display option to high texture quality an the display resolution to 1280x1024 70Hz. Further details can be found in topic number 737-25549

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista64/common-vista64.html

 

[Litmus]

When you buy the 32bit Ultimate DVD you get all these versions;
Windows Vista Business
Windows Vista Business N
Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Vista Home Basic N
Windows Vista Home Premium
Windows Vista Starter
Windows Vista Ultimate

Atleast the danish version i have

Yea i understand what comes in the packages, but how do you upgrade to 64x from there? reformat and reinstall windows again? and like i asked before, do you have to pay to upgrade

 

[Joor]

Litmus: there is no reason to get the 64 bit version atm..now meny games/apps are 64 bit?

 

[Vonwar]

I have a question here:

Does Windows Vista work with DaoC, or does it NOT ???

If it does, it could be of interest but if not why get it now and not in 6 months when the first errors have been fixed.

I seem to remember a friday news from not so long ago, where Goa states that DaoC and Windows Vista are incompatable, or do i remember wrong?

rgds

Vonwar

 

[Darzil]

Also the OEM version only costs £75 which sounds to good to be true compared to the £200 for retail. Would the OEM work just the same as the retail or are there some restristions?

Usual restriction is that OEM software is installed in a new computer, not an existing one. Though depending on the wording you can sometimes get away with it on a new hard drive (probably not with Microsoft).

It's often just a licence, so only any good if you already have the software to install.

Darzil

 

[Darzil]

I seem to remember a friday news from not so long ago, where Goa states that DaoC and Windows Vista are incompatable, or do i remember wrong?

Not tested and verified, therefore not supported. May well work, though.

Darzil

 

[Mojo]

It's often just a licence, so only any good if you already have the software to install.

Darzil

And even then you would need the OEM distribution of the software, as there is a check between the Key used and the Media used for the install.

 

[Krait]

A nice little workaround for the upgrade version.

Now, however, this workaround allows users to perform a “clean install.” The process is a bit tedious, but is not hard at all to complete. Users have to perform these simple steps to perform a clean install of Vista without a previous version of Windows installed with an upgrade DVD:

1. Boot from the Windows Vista Upgrade DVD and start the setup program.
2. When prompted to enter your product key, DO NOT enter it. Click "Next" and proceed with setup. This will install Windows Vista as a 30-day trial.
3. When prompted, select the edition of Vista which you have purchased and continue with setup.
4. Once setup has been completed and you have been brought to the desktop for the first time, run the install program from within Windows Vista.
5. This time, type in your product key when prompted.
6. When asked whether to perform an Upgrade or Custom (advanced) install, choose Custom (advanced) to perform a clean install of Vista. Yes, this means that you will have to install Vista for a second time.
7. Once setup has completed for the second time, you should be able to activate Windows Vista normally. You can also delete the Windows.old directory which contains information from the first Vista install.

There's no telling why Microsoft left this loophole wide open with Windows Vista Upgrade DVDs, but this means that any retail upgrade DVD can be used as a fully functioning full retail copy of Vista.

Clicky

 

[Litmus]

will upgrade still work even if your XP install/cd-key isnt 100% legal? ;o

 

[Krait]

You apparently do'nt even need an in-place OS,just boot from the upgrade disk. Oo

 

[Litmus]

but as someone said up above, once you have activated once from the upgrade you will have to pay for windows xp or smt next time your format or summat?


also i was thinking of buying the upgrade direct from windows site, can i burn it to cd after i dl it does anyone know?

 

[soze]

I like Vista aswell, seems to run very smoothly, my be because it's still running on a newly formatted disc, but seems better than XP... Specially like the new gadgets in it xD Not tried running anything else besides some programs like Visual Studio, Eclipse, NetBeans and stuff. Tried DAoC, but couldn't get it to work on my Business version, crashes right after I click the realm I want to play in, tried all the advices I could find, but nothing worked. Just gonna wait for some more patches, and hope it'll get fixed in time, if I still want to play DAoC by then hehe.

Change it to run in xp compatability and then add the programmes to the windows firewall defender type programme thats how i got it running here.

I have a question here:

Does Windows Vista work with DaoC, or does it NOT ???

If it does, it could be of interest but if not why get it now and not in 6 months when the first errors have been fixed.

I seem to remember a friday news from not so long ago, where Goa states that DaoC and Windows Vista are incompatable, or do i remember wrong?

rgds

Vonwar

It dose been running Vista for over a month here with Daoc just need to do like i said above

Cheapest place i have seen vista is OEM from ebuyer but i think i read that dose not give you both the 64 and x86 versions but retail dose.

 

[Legean]

Really dont advise buying from scan im having a problem with them atm and its gonna take them at least 8 days now to deliver my items when the other websites i used did it in 2 days. I got told a load of crap about 1000s of orders being delayed over 2 weeks even tho their estimate (over the phone) for my order was today (5 days delivery) which still isn't great.

 

[Litmus]

Really dont advise buying from scan im having a problem with them atm and its gonna take them at least 8 days now to deliver my items when the other websites i used did it in 2 days. I got told a load of crap about 1000s of orders being delayed over 2 weeks even tho their estimate (over the phone) for my order was today (5 days delivery) which still isn't great.

mine is ok, order from them on thursday lunch time and was despatched today at lunch

 

[Legean]

mine is ok, order from them on thursday lunch time and was despatched today at lunch

Not saying theyre like this all the time but i dont think ill ever use them again due to appauling service - ive had to ring them about 15 times for this one order, theyve never even said sorry, infact theyve seemed a lot more like they dont care. I'm at the point where im considering cancelling my order and paying more to go with a company i feel cares.

My main problem is they would only deliver to my cards billing address which is fair enough but i had to travel a long way to get there so phoned before i left to make sure it was going to be delivered on time and got told it would be. Woke up to find an email saying i wont be getting it and the journey was a waste of money/time.

 

[Amiga]

About daoc and vista...

From the herald:

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Vista, Camelot, and You

Posted By: Sanya Thomas 2007-01-29 15:23:54
Just a warning - Camelot is not Vista-compliant. If you upgrade to Vista at this time, you may have trouble playing. We're working with all the appropriate parties to try and resolve this issue as quickly as we can, but if you're concerned, you should hold off on installing Vista until I can give you more information. Thanks, all.
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[dex]

hi,

Having had vista on my pc for a month, i can say.......

games seem to load quicker .

but.

having probs while dual logged.

walls on keeps seem to disapear, gets to be a pain when trying to run to the door when being chased bye a bunch of albs and running into the wall cause can´t see where the door is.

grass turns into like reflective water hills are none exsistant so wondering why are those chars standing like 10 x higher than me in the air
maybe vista ain´t compliant with my gfx card (x1900pro) but i have lastest ati driver for vista.

so formated HD and redone with xp now problems are gone.

 

[soze]

hi,

Having had vista on my pc for a month, i can say.......

games seem to load quicker .

but.

having probs while dual logged.

walls on keeps seem to disapear, gets to be a pain when trying to run to the door when being chased bye a bunch of albs and running into the wall cause can´t see where the door is.

grass turns into like reflective water hills are none exsistant so wondering why are those chars standing like 10 x higher than me in the air
maybe vista ain´t compliant with my gfx card (x1900pro) but i have lastest ati driver for vista.

so formated HD and redone with xp now problems are gone.

I did not have that problem on Vista ran my bot in ToA client at 800x600 with lowest gfx possible. And also it dose run with problems untill xp compatibility mode and add the exes to the firewall and windows defender programmes.