introducing parents to legal highs

[tris-]

anyone use those legal highs such as salvia, eating shrooms etc? i am wanting to explore such things at home (live with my parents) as i cannot very well start smoking green.
for salvia i would need to buy a pipe at least, but im worried my parents would go crazy thinking it was all illegal. is there anyway i can make them see its totally legal, there is nothing wrong with it and just watch me to make sure i dont start doing any crazy shit.

it was hard enough telling them i started smoking (even though both my parents smoked and my mum did while she was pregnant!). they took that well though, they seem pretty laid back about stuff but you never know what could tip them over the edge.
any tips at all? if i can get them to accept this then maybe other 'alternative' tabacoos wouldnt be a taboo anymore.

 

[Vindicator]

You want to get stoned with your parents so they think its alrite to smoke the whacky tabaccy .............. I have a better idea.

Get some friends and go smoke your brains out with them.

I'm sure you'll come back saying to this " Well I want them to get used to the idea of me smoking stuff so stfu man!!!!!!!!" but are you really that naive to believe your parents went through the 70's without touching the stuff ! There just protecting their baby by not letting you smoke ^^

 

[tris-]

my dad smoked weed him self. i can smoke weed at my mates house buts is a chore getting there and back. it would be easier to do it at home

 

[Ezteq]

Mmm well go out buy a shit load of scag and leave it laying in your room with needle, and tournequetty arm bandy thing and an ld burnt tea spoon, when your parents flid out just say "ok folks i love and respect you both so ill drop the scag but btw do you mind if i do this.....?"

and btw what the heck is salvia? (when first read it misread and thought you said saliva)

 

[tris-]

a psychoactive leaf, like lsd only legal and can be grown your self indoors.

 

[Binky the Bomb]

I'd be more worried about your neighbours if there assholes. I've been "expertly" questioned by my neighbours about any illegal substances i'm currently taking (thats pretty much what they asked actually). To be honest, my dads pretty fair with the whole pot thing, he see's little problem with it, it's just the other stuff he has objections about, and I agree with.

Pot is not the problem, and it goes along the same lines of video games. It's not the substance, it's the person. Drugs are only addictive if you take them often enough and in large enough quantities that you become dependant on them, like a favourite food. If the person craves whatever escape there seeking from a drug, then they'll become idiots (even more) and fuck there lives up for more of it.

Pot is not a drug, it's a herb. It's full of protien and fiber and contains no additives or preservatives.

Or, for the short version:

It doesn't make you vomit, bleed from the nose, destroy your brain, liver, kidneys or dignity, make you pee your own blood or cause heart failure.
It does, moake you calmer, more relaxed, easies pain in various muscle groups and more suseptable to the cosmic truth. Has been known to raise revenue for local pizza parlours as well, but's commercialism for you.

 

[Conchabar]

ive tried salvia and my second trip was fucked up so ive kinda gone off halucinating drugs but ye its a nice drug.. shrooms r not really legal in there best form... but there nice
weed is the best drug i have ever tried and i recomend doing it and tbh if ure parents dont want u doing weed they wont like u doing legal drugs.. i was surprised salvia was legal when i tried it

 

[tris-]

ok i think the most tactful way i can think of is to come in stinking of weed. if they ask me about it i will just say my mates do it but what do you reckon about the whole thing since you did it your self. should make the cat lose its tounge. they never said they dont want me doin weed, but also never said they dont mind. i drink crazy amounts of vodka and no one flutters and eye lid. i think its just the taboo of not smoking the normal stuff, and its illegal. but then my parents are always doing something so they cant say FA really.

 

[Conchabar]

best way is just to smoke it at home and if they start talking about it just tell them u smoke it thats what i did ...

remember kids weed is addictive and expensive ^^

 

[tris-]

no way i can smoke at home. we all smoke fags but its house rule we never ever smoke inside the house

 

[Conchabar]

that suxs i just chug away in my room ure parents shouldnt care much dude ure 18 i see ure at the age u can do what u want

 

[Lothandar]

my dad smoked weed him self. i can smoke weed at my mates house buts is a chore getting there and back. it would be easier to do it at home

Or don't do it at all.


I don't need weed and other kind of shits fogging my mind to feel satisfied/good.

Infact, noone needs it, just people don't get it

 

[tris-]

i know, no one needs anything except water, vitamins, fiber, some fats and protein. but we still eat crisps, chocolate, drink coke and alcohol. we eat foods that taste nice rather than bland mush. we go on rollercoasters to get an andrenaline buzz that wouldnt get otherwise.
you do all this to release endorphines etc in your brain, to make you feel good.

so dude, you can go live in a rock in the cold, wearing a sheep skin. you dont need anything else. you will still survive. you wont be having fun, but you will be alive. thats your point right?

 

[Conchabar]

yup i dont need to smoke weed in front of my pc all the time or with my friends but lifes boring enough not to its like i dont need to get drunk but i do because its funny.. we only have 1 youth might as well fking enjoy it

 

[Lothandar]

<@ thread starter>

I did not expect you to react in a mature way.


There are about a million things which don't defragment your mind slowly (and don't get me started how weed is not harmful towards the brain, it is, people who constantly smoke weed for years become idiots).


If you fail to find normal activities in life not involving any form of drugs, be my guest and smoke a joint.

Edit: I went a bit over my own limits ><

 

[Lothandar]

I know I don't seem nice, but you could do a lot of things (especially with your friends) instead of smoking weed, which are equally, or more fun.

 

[Conchabar]

okay all ppl that dont smoke weed i ask u do u drink alcohol? if u do u have no right to put ure self higher then us... alcohol is just as bad for u as weed... also alcohol has the tendancy to make people violent .. when was the last time u heard of a stoner beat the fuck out of sum 1 when stoned...
i smoke weed because it makes me feel better about my self and puts me in a good frame of mood.. like the other guy said ye we could all be health freaks and just eat stuff thats good for us and not touch any fattening products but we do because we enjoy the taste etc... theres a reason there are drugs in this world

 

[tris-]

<@ thread starter>

I did not expect you to react in a mature way.


There are about a million things which don't defragment your mind slowly (and don't get me started how weed is not harmful towards the brain, it is, people who constantly smoke weed for years become idiots).


If you fail to find normal activities in life not involving any form of drugs, be my guest and smoke a joint.


The usual defensive reply involving how boring my life probably is, is last year.

Find out something new pliz :|

lol wtf. i never said anything about your life, i dont know anything about it. i also dont see anything i said that is immature. i think i made a good point tbh. you say you dont need drugs to be happy (neither do i, probably the same for most people who use drugs), im just pointing out why do you need to eat chocolate when all it does it make chemicals that make you feel happier than before? i dont see the point in that, do you? probably not, but i bet you still eat chocolate anyway . the least mature thing ive said is "lol wtf", which is right on par with your "Find out something new pliz :|" i mean really, if all you were gonna do is troll then why did you post

I know I don't seem nice, but you could do a lot of things (especially with your friends) instead of smoking weed, which are equally, or more fun.

but things can only be so fun and then you to get a limit of how fun it is. then along comes mr alcohol and mrs drug and hey, there is a lot more fun from the same activity. even smoking a cig makes suff a bit more fun, and you buy that in the same place as alcohol.

 

[Lothandar]

okay all ppl that dont smoke weed i ask u do u drink alcohol? if u do u have no right to put ure self higher then us... alcohol is just as bad for u as weed... also alcohol has the tendancy to make people violent .. when was the last time u heard of a stoner beat the fuck out of sum 1 when stoned...
i smoke weed because it makes me feel better about my self and puts me in a good frame of mood.. like the other guy said ye we could all be health freaks and just eat stuff thats good for us and not touch any fattening products but we do because we enjoy the taste etc... theres a reason there are drugs in this world

Actually, alcohol is healty regarding our digestive system (wine for example.)

English is not my native language so I can't really explain to you how alcohol is good if you DON'T DRINK WAY TOO MUCH OF IT.

It has its USE.

Yes, drunkies can get violent, but if you drink a glass of wine after dinner each day, it is not at all harmful towards your body. You DO NOT get violent either. Try it, you won't.

I don't know what use weed has apart from "making you feel good" and stuff.

I also don't drink, not because I am a health maniac, I just don't like the taste, but as I said above, alcohol can be healty towards your body. Not (and again) NOT in an unlimited amount.

 

[Lothandar]

lol wtf. i never said anything about your life, i dont know anything about it. i also dont see anything i said that is immature. i think i made a good point tbh. you say you dont need drugs to be happy (neither do i, probably the same for most people who use drugs), im just pointing out why do you need to eat chocolate when all it does it make chemicals that make you feel happier than before? i dont see the point in that, do you? probably not, but i bet you still eat chocolate anyway . the least mature thing ive said is "lol wtf", which is right on par with your "Find out something new pliz :|" i mean really, if all you were gonna do is troll then why did you post



but things can only be so fun and then you to get a limit of how fun it is. then along comes mr alcohol and mrs drug and hey, there is a lot more fun from the same activity. even smoking a cig makes suff a bit more fun, and you buy that in the same place as alcohol.

I edited my post as I found it offensive myself, but I just don't agree with people who smoke weed, at all, sorry.

 

[tris-]

but do you eat chocolate, and foods that taste good? if so i will rest my case here and now. all your doing is creating the same chemicals in your brain as the guy who is smoking weed is. your just doing it in a different manner, which can be equally as bad (obesity, rotten teeth etc from eating too much nice food)

 

[Lothandar]

but do you eat chocolate, and foods that taste good? if so i will rest my case here and now. all your doing is creating the same chemicals in your brain as the guy who is smoking weed is. your just doing it in a different manner, which can be equally as bad (obesity, rotten teeth etc from eating too much nice food)

Chocolate and things in general which contain tons of sugar act like an energy boost for your body. This also includes the brain, thus people (for example) have the possibility (usually) to have some chocolate or grapesugar (I am not sure that this is its english name, it's the simplest sugar so your body can absorb it quickly to convert it to energy) before they take tests at the end of secondary school (graduating? Not sure ).

When I go travelling with my 2 friends (our last journey was 60 miles) we take the above things with us as it helps us when we are in front of a steep hill for example. It is a great addition to equipment as it gives you energy quickly. Of course, not in an unlimited amount, like alcohol. If your body gains too much sugar at the same time the effect is reversed, kind of

This also has its use, no food is useless if you look at it carefully, otherwise it is not "food".

 

[Conchabar]

yes i would say "moderation" is the key word in ure argument here yes anything in moderation isnt harmful ... but of course not many ppl take things in moderation =)

 

[tris-]

thanks for the info my friend, but i cant help but feel that you missed my point

 

[Cozak]

Gave up trying to read this thread your fucking avatar is giving me a headache

 

[Conchabar]

Gave up trying to read this thread your fucking avatar is giving me a headache

ye its kind of annoying isnt it

 

[tris-]

This also has its use, no food is useless if you look at it carefully, otherwise it is not "food".

full sugary, full of aditives, bubble gum. if you can find any use in that, apart from making the person feel happier (this includes relieving stress etc) than before, i will send you a bar of chocolate .
i mean the type of gum not approved by the dentist assocation so it has no benefit what so ever for teeth.

 

[Lothandar]

full sugary, full of aditives, bubble gum. if you can find any use in that, apart from making the person feel happier (this includes relieving stress etc) than before, i will send you a bar of chocolate .
i mean the type of gum not approved by the dentist assocation so it has no benefit what so ever for teeth.

Relieving stress is not linked with being happy, it simply prevents you from doing stupid things.

Why do you think soldiers get bubble gum? To be happier? Wrong.

 

[tris-]

it releases chemicals in the brain that make people happier, if you like something it will always release these chemicals. if your happy your not stressed, or are you?

 

[Lothandar]

it releases chemicals in the brain that make people happier, if you like something it will always release these chemicals. if your happy your not stressed, or are you?

What did I say? Not being stressed is not linked with happyness.