infiltrator items

[eben]

I keep reading on the VN boards that it's (allegedly) easy to get +11 from items. After doing a little research, I'm not convinced a level 50 inf with epic armour can get +11 to both stealth and envenom. I can get +11 envenom, but I fear I may have to resort to player crafted items to get what I want.

Here's what I have found so far:

Epic armour +4 envenom
DF jewel +5 envenom
Epic envenom ring +2 envenom

Choosing this epic envenom ring stops me from getting the stealth ring.

For stealth I would get:

Belt of etheric mist +3 stealth
Cloak of the latent +4 stealth (would prefer to wear +3 epic if I could for 12 qui/con)

This gives me 7 stealth. Other possible ways of getting stealth seem to be

Dartmoor thruster (brilliant rift finder) stealth +2 (14.6 DPS :-/ not 100% quality either)
Brilliant stilletto of soulshade +2 stealth Prince drop - yes please!!
Crypt Robbers bracer +1 stealth - pants
Islwyn's bead necklace (LB drop) stealth +2
Macabre medallion OTD +2 stealth

Ideally I'd like to get an extra +5 from these so I can wear epic cloak. I guess I'd have to go for the Macabre Medallion as it has 6 dex/qui too. That means I have to get both those weapons or be forced to wear a crap bracer.

Is there any other way I could help boost stealth and envenom with items? Ideally I'd like to save as many slots as possible for high resist items, and not have to rely on getting a rare sword.

Some input from 50 infs out there would be most appreciated, especially on what stuff they wear currently (choice of cloak etc).

Thanks for your time.

 

[Novamir]

get 2x soulshadezzzz

 

[Generic Poster]

Are you taking Realm Ranks into consideration?
At RR2, you have +1 to all stats, at RR3 you have +2... and so on.


These bonuses are on top of your item bonus. So you should cap your Stealth/Env easily by RR4 or so. You should aim for RR5, which lets you take advantage of 16.5dps swords and 102AF armour.

With spellcrafting out next week, everyone and their alt will have SC'd blades, so don't worry too much about drops as you will have a set of custom-built swords.


I noticed a bracer in DF, bought with sapphire seals. It had +2 stealth and DW I think.

 

[SoulFly Amarok]

As far as I know, stealth over 50 with items or base does nothing

 

[eben]

Originally posted by Generic Poster
Are you taking Realm Ranks into consideration?
At RR2, you have +1 to all stats, at RR3 you have +2... and so on.


These bonuses are on top of your item bonus. So you should cap your Stealth/Env easily by RR4 or so. You should aim for RR5, which lets you take advantage of 16.5dps swords and 102AF armour.

With spellcrafting out next week, everyone and their alt will have SC'd blades, so don't worry too much about drops as you will have a set of custom-built swords.


I noticed a bracer in DF, bought with sapphire seals. It had +2 stealth and DW I think.

Yes I am taking RR into account - I want +11 from items only

 

[eben]

Originally posted by SoulFly Amarok
As far as I know, stealth over 50 with items or base does nothing

Yeah, but my template was gonna be 35 stealth, so I would hit 50 stealth at RR5. I'm reluctant to spec 36 stealth unless I really have to.

 

[old.willowywicca]

can't you just wear the +envenom stuff to place poison on your weapons, then wear the +stealth stuff the remainder of the time?there's no real need to have +11 envenom and +11 stealth at the same time?

 

[<Wels>]

Q: Last week you said that the assassin with a natural 50 in stealth and an assassin with a natural 38 and 12 in +stealth items would be equally hard to detect (although the natural 50 would have better safe fall). But what about if both of them have a natural 50 in stealth, but one of them has 10 in +stealth items? Does it do any good?

A: There is no hard cap on stealth – so the player with a total of 60 points in stealth will be harder to detect (both for PVE and RVR) than the one with 50. Please keep in mind that the difference between the detect rates at 50 and 51 would be so tiny that you’d have to be running developer tools in order to really notice it. At the 50+ level, you won’t see dramatic change.

http://www.camelotherald.com/more/677.php

 

[old.Krusha]

isnt it +3 envenom from the epic armor?

Ie +10 is still the maximum you can get from Items in albion (because of the lack of items ) (ring,gloves,jewel:3+2+5)

 

[eben]

Originally posted by old.Krusha
isnt it +3 envenom from the epic armor?

Ie +10 is still the maximum you can get from Items in albion (because of the lack of items ) (ring,gloves,jewel:3+2+5)

http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=4911

I was hoping a 50 inf would confirm this.

 

[old.Krusha]

but isnt that the old Gloves.. ie they changed them when they changed the epic43 ring? (hmm maybe i shoould finish my last two lvls and find out )

 

[Derric]

+3 envenom on the gloves
+2 envenom on the ring

 

[liste]

macabre amulet is +3, and a OTD.

Opposition Pin from DM, has +4 stealth.

Jewel of Dark Beauty has +3 stealth / CS.

Bracer of <something-or-other> from DF Merchants, has +2 stealth/DW.

have your +5 envenom jewel in backpack. put it on, when adding poison, then put back your opposition pin/dark beauty.

personally, i have 36 stealth, 37 envenom and RR4.

i have Lifebane, and 50 stealth, just not simultaneously, which doesnt really matter.


it IS very easy.

<and yes. currently, getting more than +10 envenom is tricky. if you have the old Frenzied thruster, you could get +11, but.... >

 

[Meatballs]

<flexes his thruster>
<tries to sell it for uber cash before someone realises you can just spellcraft>

 

[liste]

obviously, these items are no longer needed when spellcrafting comes in, but if you fill your jewelry slots with these items, you can use your SC items for stats/resists, and leave the petty +skills for your items.

 

[eben]

Originally posted by liste
macabre amulet is +3, and a OTD.

I did this OTD tonight and the stats are:

hits 12
dex 6
qui 6
stealth +2

 

[Arthwyr]

Think couple of the df bracers have +2 stealth and +2dw could be its just +2 dw cant remember but i used to use one.
Jewel of black beauty drops from hollowmen and hillscrags in snow (+3cs +3stealth), swap it with the envenom jewel once your backpack is full of poisoned blades. After all why would you need the max + evenom when you are running around.

Since you dont have a respec anymore dont aim for too high stealth/envenom at low RR levels.

Currently my spec looks something like
Thrust 50+15
DW 35+16
Stealth 35+15
Envenom 33+15
Critical strike 34+14
and thats at RR6, I still have a full respec let and might drop some stats in favor of others and SC items at RR7