I'm going to flame my own realm, it's that bad.

[Saturnine]

Too many casters: lvl10 guards munch through them as they all run around, too scared to do anything or help anyone incase they get aggro.

Too few support classes: half the population want emain death-spam and not much more.

Croud control: as per usual a mez will last 11seconds tops before some clever person swans over and brakes it.

Zerging: a group runs about emain, another ones comes along and they stick together, then another, then another (midgard is more prone to this though, hib's not much better) - this is substantially less socially acceptable than "intentional zergs" for keep taking/defence and relic antics.

Farmability: mids and hibs are rarely stupid enough to skip about all by themselves, but countless albs seem to do it. I doubt the rp-farmers of the other realms complain much.

Rams: most enemy keep raids they splash out and buy a ram, albion seems to reserve them for special occasions <see too many casters>.

Afk/Stick: instead of a nice keen supply of people willing to lead it seems to be a race to /stick to someone else so you don't have to strain yourself too hard. Many times I (or another caster) ends up having to lead the group <see too many casters>.


hmm... that'll do for now but there's plenty more.

<hides under duvey with earphones on with a note ontop, "place flames/abuse/comments in wastepaper basket provided>

 

[Nightchill]

Originally posted by Saturnine

<hides under duvey with earphones on with a note ontop, "place flames/abuse/comments in wastepaper basket provided">

lock the thread before someone (constructively) replies

 

[SilverHood]

was good fun today

slam caster number one

leisurely take my time to kill him.

oh whats that? An afk caster... better kill him too

Today, the albs reminded why I love playing midgard, and why I'm still playing and paying for DAOC

 

[Lochlyessa]

k

 

[gustav]

Its all the same for all the realms. Everyone has the same complaint. Find a different area to roam. Meet new ppl. Go out and seek smaller battles in the less used area. Less rps but more fun.

Emain is not the only frontier and not the only place to get rps.

 

[Sagba]

Main reason why I retired my Armsman few months ago was that there wasn't enough casters Made a class that I thought we need more, ice wizzie.

Too many casters
Hard to say, maybe there is, maybe not You can always roll a tank

Too few support classes
Once Smite got nerfed many clerics retired(for example). Mostly I dont have cleric in my group, times when I have it's great

CC and zerging
Well, you can always RvR in Albs/Mids frontier. For example, get 1fg and go to Odins, I'm sure you will find out that mess will hold more than 11secs before someone broke it(no zerg).

Rams
I'm pretty sure that when Mids/Hibs have rams they went to take keeps(=if they are just wandering around Alb frontier seeking fights and can't find any, they dont have rams-->keep take will be without rams) Same for Albs, if we go to Odins for keep take we will have rams. If we are just looking for fights, we dont have rams.

Afk/Stick
Been afk a lot is not a good thing. I know I'm afk too much(I drink and smoke too much ), but I'm sure it's better to be afk and /stick than afk without /stick. Mostly problem is not that people /stick, problem is that they dont. Dont see why caster couldn't lead a group. I can lead a group with my Armsman or Wizard and I will do it in same way with both chars. Reason why I mostly dont lead a group is that there is better players to do that

I mostly find myself in a group without Mach5, PBT, CC and healer. I'm not blaiming anyone from that, for me it's more important that I play with people that I like to play with, not how good group it is.

I like Albion

 

[gustav]

I just gotta say hello to the albs and hibs I have known in the other places (non-emain)

Mysteh...where have you been? I got a kiss from you in HW recently but that was the first time I've seen you in ages.

Sycho/Mattshanes...hehehe...lol (still my one of my favorite albs)

Stafford..the first alb to offer me a pint. Still waiting to do a solo of you since you hit 50.

Jamiesmallicus...will always side with you over those nasty albs.

Shaeffer...

Revminster...you are evul and so difficult.

Sangenious...Old hard to kill. Very hard to kill...so difficult I will only cheer and salute you, never engage.

Gwendel, Artful, Muddrey, Sapios, Rambo, Dioz etc...erm...ouch.

Civy...where have you been?

And to all the others that I see out there, ./salute.

I know this has no place in the thread and for that I am sorry to mess it up. But I enjoy this game and I am still a gimp yet I soldier on and hope for a bit of loving from GOA and my fellow players. So far the players I meet havent let me down and tbh GOA have made an excellent game.

 

[old.mattshanes]

OI gustav don't you dare quit you are my favourite kobold ,yep there is odins/hw/sauv to rvr in aswell as emain,i wish the mids and hibs who i fought in odins before si came out would come as often as they used to there,come on guys come odins often make it more fun there too

 

[Traia]

Some good points by saturnine.

 

[liste]

and some horribly bad ones too.

A: You cant tell people what class to play. if everyone wants to be a farming machine, then that is what everyone will be.

B: the leader of a group only needs two attributes. Know the way, and dont be AFK.

C: Emain. Good 'ole Emain. You cant tell people where to go. If people fancies Emain, then so be it. If people fancy Camelot Hills, then so be it <i refer you to the uber pointless sotl flame. its a game with thousands of possibilities. if you dont like it, play a game with a lineary plotline>

D: Zerging/farming. you say that farmability is high, and you say that we zerg. The people who run off solo and gets farmed, is the ones avoiding the zerg. And again, their very own choice. besides, Realm Points is not important as such, only people's Fun Factor. If your own fun factor is hugely diminished by all this, then this game is not for you. Because this is how the game will Always be.

Constructive attempt though, i give you that

 

[faderullan]

Albion has to many casters?
Hmm, maybe i have been asleep the last few months.

 

[Coren]

Those points only say something about the people you group with, not Albion in general.

 

[Yimurah]

Well i think we should learn to mez
I hardly ever c an alb using mez ... they probably get mezzed before they get a chance... Nerf!

 

[zapzap]

My arms are to weak to carry anything 50 str and stupid cloth amor weights 18 + 15 power potions = 19

Afk well happends to all but some seem to do it every 20 min, then they should run alone or make AFK group with freinds.

Why not run alone if one fells like, what the hell took my healer out survied 40 min made 3k rps mighty rezzer was hoping for a 1v1 with some gimp infil.

Groups adds with groups trying to pass milegates but after that see no reason why still run in large CG group.

Ànd what is this new thing with Albs camping amg 40 min , is there a problem finding u group the try SHIFT F1- F8 or face > stick and move on.

Was in Odins 1½ hour yesterday didnt find 1 single enemy to kill, guess thats why people go to emain, it gets real cold out there in odins alone.

Careless-Zapsi

 

[j000 d000d]

I would be happy if people stick fast.

Because it was goddamn annoying when i led a hib group and more than half just didn't stick and lost us every 5 minutes :wall:

 

[mirieth]

To be honest, though the points you raise make some amount of sense when you think about Albion in general, in my opinion, that's not the way things actually happen.

Think about it this way, the groups you join that break mess, join the zerg etc. etc. are 99.9% of the time going to be some random group made up of anyone the group leader can find. Guilds like SoTL, T30, LoE and PE 99% of the time will only group with Guildies - and why? Because it makes RvR worth doing . A good group of Guildies (or two, whatever tickles your fancy) is much more fun because in general everbody knows one another better and they work together a hell of a lot more efficiently. Now I appreciate that not all Guilds can do this, perhaps they're more PvE based - if this is the case, maybe you're in the wrong Guild if you want a better RvR experience? /shrug.

Farmability? People are allowed to solo, you know.

As for having too many casters... if that's the case - send them in the direction of PE, I know we could use a few more . I do agree that we have too few support classes, however, but people play games to have fun, not to do everyone else wants. It's just a game!

Rams... I don't know, I don't go on keep raids that often. Most Guilds who like to do this a lot, however - DoA, GoP, OotKT, tend to always have a vault ready to go in someone or other's vault, I believe.

CC & zerging... well, this happens in a zerg. Which is why I avoid the zerg and only run with Guildies in Odin's/Emain/Hadrian's.

 

[maxgirth]

My views on rvr are very simplistic ,two types of rvr`ers, those who do it purely for fun,the others for a sense of achievement, whichever route people take is their choice,why oh why, are most flames on here,about certain individuals or guilds, based on their rvr prowess?,or seemingly lack of it.

As long as everyone who takes part in whatever they want to,is enjoying it, then that is surely what matters the most.

A few years ago I used to manage a football team,until rl situations rendered it impossible,my sole attitude whilst doing it was, forget the "it`s not the winning but it`s the taking part bullshit" , if it doesn`t mean anything to win,why keep a score?.

At the same time though, I had the utmost respect for the other teams,whom without, my ideals, and what I wanted to achieve would have been rendered useless.

This game is so like rl in the way,if we are all chiefs,then we have no indians.

Enjoy,have fun,for we are not all Manchester united or Arsenal, but to the ones who are /salute.

To the ones who are not /salute.

Both are needed as much as each other.

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

Another huge Mid zerg in Emain last night forced Albs to zerg. Woe betide anyone who criticises the Alb zerg.

TBH, apart from Warders, I have no respect for random Mids. I was in a group at grogans (half PE, half LoE) and we were resting... next minute a FG Mids get the jump on us and mes, yet we still win... and no, it wasn't a group of isen vakten's either.

When Mids get repeatedly owned like this, they just zerg, and its sad, because it ruins RvR. They must feel so fullfilled when a well designed group (SoTL, Pbuck's group, PE etc) charge a milegate being camped by 30 Mids who kill a FG Albs.

Times have changed, Albs rarely zerg now, if they do, then obviously I need to pay more attention. Yet the amount of times a night of RvR has been spoilt by a Mid zerg recently I have lost count.

/Whine

 

[Azal]

Originally posted by old.SadonTheGrey

. I was in a group at grogans (half PE, half LoE) and we were resting... next minute a FG Mids get the jump on us and mes, yet we still win... and no, it wasn't a group of isen vakten's either.

When Mids get repeatedly owned like this, they just zerg, and its sad, because it ruins RvR.
/Whine

Well the same thing happens in reverse mate, I've lost count of the times the fg i've been with has wiped a couple fg's albs out and they come back with 3 times as many ppl after dieing once.

Times have changed, Albs rarely zerg now, if they do, then obviously I need to pay more attention

You do need to pay more attention but mids are guilty of zerging too, sadly

 

[Qte Eth]

not all mids zerg

 

[faderullan]

You must be real uber azal

Or maybe im(my group) just a gimp who cant kill a couple of fg's with ease

 

[old.Bubble]

the only reason why we won was because the SM pbaoed before the healer aoe stuned so i could QC mez the whole group before the stun hits :/

in thoery mids can but a more deverstating group than both hibs and albs. (through eclispe would give them a run for there money)

Oh and albion needs more Active RvR clerics your right there asysh

/hugs tattersail

 

[Lament]

Just have to say that I've always found Albion has way too few casters and too many tanks.So many times I've seen Alb groups wiped by hib/mid due to them have far more and better area effect spells (cc and dd).
As for breaking mez,tbh never have much of a chance since not exactly alot of sorcerors about (with good reason atm).Not going to comment on the crappy minstrel/theurg ae mezz.
Also we ALWAYS have rams if we plan to take a keep (not enough most times imho though) can't really see any point carrying the heavy things around when not keep taking unless you have 100% debuff resists.


Zergs = Alb/Mid/Hib