Illian vd Tahlamhea? :o

Das_Hibbie

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Well my curiosity for necroes goes on!

I'm just wondering if there's a difference meeting Necro A or Necro B? Do some necroes play better than others, and how does that show? Comparing Sorc A to Sorc B is easy due to a number of reasons: The "better" of the two will have quicker reactiontime, better placed mezzes, more deffed foes, etc etc.. But what makes a more skilled Necro differ from a not so skilled one?

I understand it might be a hard question to answer though seeing there aren't very many necroes out RvRing ;p
 

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pet gets attacked - spam nuke/lifedrain which i consider extremly difficult,of wait no i dont.
 

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Well same can be said for a bard...

See enemy, mez, end song, run around... Hard or not? Doesn't mean all bards are just as skilled.
 

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Das_Hibbie said:
Well same can be said for a bard...

See enemy, mez, end song, run around... Hard or not? Doesn't mean all bards are just as skilled.

o_O no comment...
 

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Of course bards do more than that, however I do also beleive necroes can show more potential than the nuke spamming.
 

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surely there isnt that much to a necro, mana vacume, mana vacume, life tap life tap job done, if they are really bored i guess they could throw in a couple of debuffs but they dont really need to.

is funny watching them try and make a new pet when you kill their existing one, sometimes let them cast for a while and then kill them
 

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Das_Hibbie said:
Well my curiosity for necroes goes on!

I'm just wondering if there's a difference meeting Necro A or Necro B? Do some necroes play better than others, and how does that show? Comparing Sorc A to Sorc B is easy due to a number of reasons: The "better" of the two will have quicker reactiontime, better placed mezzes, more deffed foes, etc etc.. But what makes a more skilled Necro differ from a not so skilled one?

I understand it might be a hard question to answer though seeing there aren't very many necroes out RvRing ;p

The key difference imo is in group play. I group with Ilian most days, he always ensures me (the Sorc) plus other casters and clerics have an endless supply of power. We've often won fights against the odds because of his power transfers. The other thing comes in knowing how to stay out of the way of the initial cc, although also letting Sorc know pet is mezzed also helps.

I haven't played with a huge array of necros as I only do guild groups but everyone in KoP will tell you we much prefer to go out with Ilian in group than without him.
 

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PBAOE necro's are a lot harder to play then sight specced one's also, i've had cabbys come upto me at gobbo's and ask me too leave cos i can out pull em :) but thats pve, in rvr it is harder to send pet in and get FC of and timed right to get the 3 pbaoe's of, but the DD in servant line is obsenely fast. the 30'sec damage sheild is good too, very underestimated. ppl could do most high level mobs with just a necro casting that and letting the mob beat itself down on that. there is still alot of issue's i have with the necro, too numerous to mention here, but played well (same with all toon's) they can be a good asset to a grp, in an ideal world, maybe a tank group with necro on MA af debuffing for the tanks.

wish i could play mine well in rvr, i mostly try in df with him anyway .

my necro's called deathmage btw, wave next time u see me with 3% health after uv'e killed me pet :)

Edit:- if ur gonna try a pbaoe necro, best to have a BB there , and don't faint when after one pull your armour and items drop to 95% con.
my record at cornwall gobbo's with my BB's heal proc and healing is 24 gobbo's killed at one time :) .. can also wipe cook's room in one pull, now thats nice money/seal's.
 

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Javai said:
I haven't played with a huge array of necros as I only do guild groups but everyone in KoP will tell you we much prefer to go out with Ilian in group than without him.

In a realm like albion where do u need more classes for the right setup, a char wich best thing is to supply power and some DDs seems..... :twak:
 

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Sabu said:
In a realm like albion where do u need more classes for the right setup, a char wich best thing is to supply power and some DDs seems..... :twak:

Well you see we play for this funny thing called fun, Ilian enjoys playing his necro we have fun with him playing his necro and we make reasonable rps into the bargain.
 

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Snakester said:
PBAOE necro's are a lot harder to play then sight specced one's also, i've had cabbys come upto me at gobbo's and ask me too leave cos i can out pull em :) but thats pve, in rvr it is harder to send pet in and get FC of and timed right to get the 3 pbaoe's of, but the DD in servant line is obsenely fast. the 30'sec damage sheild is good too, very underestimated. ppl could do most high level mobs with just a necro casting that and letting the mob beat itself down on that. there is still alot of issue's i have with the necro, too numerous to mention here, but played well (same with all toon's) they can be a good asset to a grp, in an ideal world, maybe a tank group with necro on MA af debuffing for the tanks.

wish i could play mine well in rvr, i mostly try in df with him anyway .

my necro's called deathmage btw, wave next time u see me with 3% health after uv'e killed me pet :)

Edit:- if ur gonna try a pbaoe necro, best to have a BB there , and don't faint when after one pull your armour and items drop to 95% con.
my record at cornwall gobbo's with my BB's heal proc and healing is 24 gobbo's killed at one time :) .. can also wipe cook's room in one pull, now thats nice money/seal's.

yeah seen that in action on Sidi mobs, went in one evening very late pulled couple at entrance and watched them beat themselves to death on the necro pet :) Unfortunately was too late to stay and see how far that would take us.
 

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Never seen Talhamhea doing anything but solo leech off alb zerg, or camp some milegate.

I played with a necro (restart) back when i played my ice wiz.
It was very good to help solve the always oom probs.
That char has potential imo if the bugs with it get solved, and it gets the self demezz.
 

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Thats indeed my issue with the necro, the long mezz times... no purge (only passives work atm, except for RP)

Got my necro r4l4 pretty fast... all solod but shit the crappy cast time + bugs piss me off...

leveling a sorc atm, to be able to play a char with alot more util
 

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Krane said:
Never seen Talhamhea doing anything but solo leech off alb zerg, or camp some milegate.

I often see talhamhea running around between mmg - mtk alone or with a mincer :eek:
 

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tedStar said:
Thats indeed my issue with the necro, the long mezz times... no purge (only passives work atm, except for RP)

Got my necro r4l4 pretty fast... all solod but shit the crappy cast time + bugs piss me off...

leveling a sorc atm, to be able to play a char with alot more util

That's why our Sorc/Necro combo is nice, I demezz the pet once inital cc is done BUT this is a pain in the ass when there's a few necros around as you got no idea which pet is which :) Give necro pets guild cloaks or at the very least their name in group colours
 

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Javai said:
That's why our Sorc/Necro combo is nice, I demezz the pet once inital cc is done BUT this is a pain in the ass when there's a few necros around as you got no idea which pet is which :) Give necro pets guild cloaks or at the very least their name in group colours

Tell the necro to target pet and use /assist :)
 

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Ilienwyn said:
Tell the necro to target pet and use /assist :)


Or better yet make targetting the necro in group window target the pet...

Ofc assist would work but not really a good solution for mid-battle with Sorc having 400 other things to do :)
 

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Krane said:
Never seen Talhamhea doing anything but solo leech off alb zerg, or camp some milegate.

Another dig at a GoL member...you really are a sad case.Take the blinkers off, Talha is mostly solo running between apk amg and strange as that may seem there are often other albs running around in that area.
 

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from what i've read on #stealthzerg. Talhamhea is something you don't attack with less then 3 as stealther.
 

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Aussie said:
from what i've read on #stealthzerg. Talhamhea is something you don't attack with less then 3 as stealther.

i was playing ranger a while ago and was pretty amused watching talhamhea.
He took easy solo a grp of 2sms+pac and another time a grp of a warrior sham and a healer. Donno realy how stupide some ppl can be or what bug the necro is abusing.
 

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mmm the other night Talhamhea (real name : Vanity :D, one of teh founders of Gol lol) joined us, instead of a ......sorc. We pwned. She can kill at a steady rate and remain hiddenish.

And any group that makes their Necro a portable mcl is stupid imo, she should be killing :D
 

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Devaster said:
i was playing ranger a while ago and was pretty amused watching talhamhea.
He took easy solo a grp of 2sms+pac and another time a grp of a warrior sham and a healer. Donno realy how stupide some ppl can be or what bug the necro is abusing.

takeing 2 sms and pac sound really nice as u cap dmg magic dmg on a necro :) a good caster can easy take out a necro 1vs1 :).
but a good full buffed necro can also easy take out 3 tanks :), as there are no cap on necro pet :), i once tested and my friends full buffed necro took lesser dmg when a full buffed pala runnin af chant oO
 

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Clipse said:
And any group that makes their Necro a portable mcl is stupid imo, she should be killing :D


That wasn't what I meant to suggest, rather a by-product of the killing with power tap is an endless supply of power to other casters/clerics :)

Question was what makes a good necro and a good necro is one who kills and shares his power :)
 

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Well all i said is i never met him anywhere else.
That doesnt mean thats all he does..
Personally i was suprised also since vanity is playing it..

But again...lets take everything as a personal offense...right iorlas?
 

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Raven said:
is funny watching them try and make a new pet when you kill their existing one, sometimes let them cast for a while and then kill them
What is also funny is encountering an enemy full group as a solo necro, and having half of the grp hitting your pet, and the rest (+stealther adds) stuck to you as a shade, hoping to get the deathspam.
 

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talhamhea (vani) rox !

if she wasnt 50 id love her !

but really

lol what kind of stupid post is this
 

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point in this thread is easy
the started wants to know if theres any skill involving in playing necro
and as a rr5 necro i can say there is
the qc is quite hard to use if u know shit of playing a necro
if they fix purge/moc i might do soem effort in making an sc suit , but atm its quite useless
 

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