Ideas from RM's?

[Brylle Madness]

Hi there I mainly play mid/excal but soon Clustering is here etc so better work on the friendship.

My rm was 47 dark 26 supp until yesterday as I tried the spec:

36RC - Yellow Cold debuff, deasant spec and baselinebolt.
32supp - yellow nearsight, blue confusion, 10 sec pbt
24dark - Better baseline


And I still find it very usefull as I nuke around 350-512 dmg without crits after the debuff with my baseline nukes in darkness.

And my other SM/RM buddies who spec darkness nukes really hard almost cap all the time.

So my thoughts would be anyone else tried this or would consider it?
as I find it very usefull in groups.

/ Biloria/Brylle

 

[Nausilus^^]

As I see it, it's really just an all-round spec - you get a little of everything, but nothing special you do really good. Semi support (debuff), semi defensive (NS/pbt), semi offensive (decent baseline nukes).
I think for grouping, I might prefer either full dark for dmg or full RC to improve SM/other RM's dmg and still have 20 supp for green NS, which despite the low lvl, still is extremely useful.
Haven't tried the spec you mention, but it's worth a thought for an allround spec if you want to do a little of this and a little of that I suppose.

 

[inqy]

that does sound interesting but I like the 47dark/26supp spec so much not sure I could bear to change it

 

[Tumleratin]

having tried most common specs (not gonna mention the more outlandish ones ive tried lol) ive come to realise that either 47/26 or full dark is what suits me best ... great fun to play

know at least 1 rm with similar spec to what you mention and it does work well when grouped with additional rm/sm for the debuffing at least

 

[Jeriraa]

I was considering this spec for my Runie. I was thinking of playing him as an utility caster (like Eld in Hib groups) but the gimps from KN wont let me play anything else than Healer.

You need a bit of Mastery of Focus for your debuffs and NS to work reliable but I think if you know what you are doing (no, not spamming lifetap) and have decent support (cc and bodyguarder) you can become a major pain in the ass to the enemy.

 

[Otho]

Considering the new determination RA, runies is again might be of big value to melee heavy groups. Also with the new group DA, they do not have to go so high in supp line to get a juicy DA.

Runemaster
- We have added two group damage add spells to the Darkness spec line. The spells are available at the following spec levels :

33 Greater Agony Rune - 7.9 dps
41 Greater Misery Rune - 10.0 dps

To me Dark 41, Supp 35 seems to be a interesting spec. Good util and at the same time some nice toys for the runie to play with.

With this spec a runie gets from:
Supp line
8 sec pbt
2nd best Nearsight
2nd best confusion (works on some pets, correct?)
120DD snare nuke , great for assist trains

from Dark:
Group DA 10 dps
spec nuke just below base nuke dmg at a lower cost for offensive. Dark base nuke will not have so high variance 41 + 11 from items > 50.
-base 179 @ 33pp
-spec 173 @ 23pp

Perhaps something to consider?

 

[Falukropp]

Sure, those splitspecs looks very interesting on paper. In the reality they got two major drawbacks though. High power consumption (you won't get full focus) and outright resists on the low level spells like the debuff, unless you go high in mastery of focus. And there's really better things you can do with those rsp:s.

 

[Swebully]

48 rc last bolt
11 sup for nearsight
22 dark...

work pretty well

 

[Zebolt]

From where I see it the only thing you gain from those specs are 10% NS, and you lose alot of dmg, and dmg is the only thing good about RM's tbh, not worth it..

Either 47 dark or 48 RC as I see it.

 

[Thrung]

From where I see it the only thing you gain from those specs are 10% NS, and you lose alot of dmg, and dmg is the only thing good about RM's tbh, not worth it..

Either 47 dark or 48 RC as I see it.

and what do YOU know about RM's Zeb?!
my RM was 3l4 tbh and I rule yo! ;4)

 

[Aeris]

48 rc last bolt
11 sup for nearsight
22 dark...

work pretty well

last bolt is 47 but last debuff is 48

that looks a vey interesting spec tbh....alot of resists on ns though

 

[Haroat]

last bolt is 47 but last debuff is 48

that looks a vey interesting spec tbh....alot of resists on ns though

forgive him, he's drunk..

and if he isnt, then he's just an idiot anyway

 

[Zebolt]

and what do YOU know about RM's Zeb?!
my RM was 3l4 tbh and I rule yo! ;4)

I know nothing, I'm from Barcelona!

 

[Thrung]

I know nothing, I'm from Barcelona!

admit your rl name is Manuel!!one!

 

[Zebolt]

admit your rl name is Manuel!!one!

Maybe

 

[remi]

have been that spec aswell, cool spec with all power relics, without(imo) its not. Im a dmg-kinda-guy, so i try maximize dmg on every char i got, for runie its the dark spec(47 and sup for NS).

Really is only 2 specs for RM, the dark spec and the 48RC spec, rest is whack.

NS and Nuke spam suits my playstyle the best, dunno bout yours.

 

[Brylle Madness]

I now respeced to:
- 37 RC yellow spec bolt and yellow cold debuff.
- 34 dark less variance on baseline darkness nuke and I get focus so less pwr consuming.
- 19 supp just green nearsight.

With this spec and focus on both dark and RC I useless power and still nuke albs around 450-500 after colddebuff when they got friar in group.
I 2 shoted a sorc with bolts 759 + 302 crit on first one and 521 dmg on second one.

I really like this spec and will continue with it and I can honestly say that I think it's better than the 47 dark 26 supp spec as you come along quite good with other cold nukers.

My friend who has a RR9 50 dark rm on excal duo'ed with me once and he hitted for cap on most enemies after my debuff except for the ones in group with cold resists. He only hitted them for about 650 without crits.

Well I'm just saying that this should be more tested than going stereotype RM specs.

/ Madness

 

[Zebolt]

My friend who has a RR9 50 dark rm on excal duo'ed with me once and he hitted for cap on most enemies after my debuff except for the ones in group with cold resists. He only hitted them for about 650 without crits.

No offence to your friend but if what you say here are true he must really have fucked up his RM somehow ^^

I'm a RR9 47 dark RM and my cap is well over 800 and I pretty often nuke for 650 without any debuff at all.

 

[Thrung]

No offence to your friend but if what you say here are true he must really have fucked up his RM somehow ^^

I'm a RR9 47 dark RM and my cap is well over 800 and I pretty often nuke for 650 without any debuff at all.

it's teh hat of doo00om!

 

[Nul]

I have a dark spec RM. 47 dark, 26 supp. Compared to my lvl 48 mentalist
my damage is a bit low so Im thinking of respec him to the following spec:
40 dark, 2 supp and 36 RC. (+ MoF 2 or 3)

Is it a waste of respec stones?

 

[Leel]

Why 40 dark? Try this as brylle posted imo:
- 37 RC yellow spec bolt and yellow cold debuff.
- 34 dark less variance on baseline darkness nuke and I get focus so less pwr consuming.
- 19 supp just green nearsight.


Besides, zebolt can't read. The rr9 rm wasn't capping at 650, he was ONLY hitting for 650'ish against albs that had FRIAR, ie cold resist in group. And well, hitting for 650 damage vs enemies with resist buffs up is pretty damn nice.

 

[Moriatroll]

such old thread bumpage

 

[Nul]

Respeced to 39 dark and 37 RC for 2nd best bolt. Works great.

Thx for replyes

 

[Acibeth]

I've been this spec for 3 realm levels now, and its really nice.. Dmg aint bad either at all, anyway at rr10 which I am now, it looks like this:

30+20 dark, 37+15RC, 25+15Supp.

What this gives is no variance on base dark nuke, 30% debuff and 2nd last spec bolt, and blue NS, all in one packet.

I like that spec alot more than being pure 48RC/22/11 spec, I dont count on having bolts do those big hits anymore, it's more like an finish-off tool if they run out of range, and theyre usually in the 450-500 range each, so it works..
Besides I also got 2 dark SM's on assist, so that debuff really rocks.. my own damage is in the 550+ (600+ on lower small groups, just like spec nuke) area on higher rr's with resists in group. After 2 weeks with this spec I specced back to 50 dark for a few hours just to check on damage again, and im doing almost the same damage on those groups with cold resist (not counting alb with red cold resist, but yellow on hib groups), -but I only do the same kind of damage on spec nuke if I use the 10% spec debuff nuke aswell..

So one way or another, I have (or AM) debuffing cold everytime I am uninterrupted, be it in cold spec or split-spec.. not to mention how fast targets drop with just 30% debuff from assist.

Power usage is also acceptable, 1% for the debuff (since its lvl 37 and use low power), and 4% per base nuke, the same as the spec nuke, and the cast speed is also yum yum =)

Not gonna spec back to dark for a while. Can only say, try it if your RR is high enough to make your base dd stable.

And no, got Mof1, and the lvl 36 debuff (with +15 skills) do NOT resist as much as you would think.. its very rare I see it resist at all.

 

[Zebolt]

Why 40 dark? Try this as brylle posted imo:
- 37 RC yellow spec bolt and yellow cold debuff.
- 34 dark less variance on baseline darkness nuke and I get focus so less pwr consuming.
- 19 supp just green nearsight.

You will make much more dmg with 47+ dark, but if you want the lvl 30 bolt and lvl 36 gtaoe I guess you can spec like that.

Besides, zebolt can't read. The rr9 rm wasn't capping at 650, he was ONLY hitting for 650'ish against albs that had FRIAR, ie cold resist in group. And well, hitting for 650 damage vs enemies with resist buffs up is pretty damn nice.

Well it looks to me like you can't read. I didn't say he capped for 650, but he said he nuked for 650 with debuff which IS gimped if you're RR9 and dark speced even with a FRIAR in the grp.

 

[johny]

all you lowbies listen to me 47 rc 26 supp is uber, best utility in the game it rox debuff etc. There is no better spec.

48 rc rest dark for max damage, but no utility

 

[Leel]

I'd say acibabe's spec at rr10 teh rox. And brylle's spec is nice at lower rr. But if you want no utility, full leech spec, go 48 rc, rest dark, no question.

 

[xGenocidex]

prefer full dark personally only thing i see with RC is fun for bolters thats about it... dark you can still hit for more than you do with baseline + debuff xd rolling a bolter myself cause there fun!... admittedly rc is nice for when you have assisting sm's like aci pointed out personal pref really depends on your play style and what you want out of it