I HATE NF and stealthers

Dances With NOobs

Fledgling Freddie
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Theyve made the fotm char rangers (BORING!!!) this has recked rvr as we know it. No longer are there fun groups running around its all ranger and nightshades groups and if your not one of these chars ur just a rp bonus for albs/mids.

Tried to play in bg last night 25+ hibs in bg. Played as anim,vw,voider.

Could i get a group of non stealthers together? Nope.

Is grouping with stealthers fun? Nope. All they do is run off to roll in there rp's (which u leech woopiieee) but how do u give support to a char u cant see?

How do u stay together (and caster,tank) classes play best when in a tight formation which is almost impossible with all the stealthers running off to do there thing.

Lastly a small recap on how i spent my evening....
Port, run to hb (get ganked on the way by stealthers).
Port actually make it to hb get ganked by stealthers on hb
port make it past hb to have 2 arrows in me... u can guess the rest

AND if i did manage to get any shrooms up the stealthers killed me, /rude and laughingly ran straight passed my shrooms which did an amazing 20-100 dmg.

To sum it all up 2shots from a ranger = 400hp
My shrooms did all of 100+20 +20 +20 = 160

Even my voider was lucky to 2-3 hit kill anything and thats a pure caster class.

Plz GOA give all classes stealth and ruin the game even more or convert all my chars to rangers so we can have fun too. (Sneer)

Is it just me or are all classes basically useless if ur not a stealther?

And lastly whats the best anti-hunter class? Coz im sick to death of port-turn into porcupine (prob not spelled right) port again.

Thnxs for listening to my rant.... ;-)

Go hib Go ;-)

(At least when chanters were the fotm they were group friendly......)
 

Dances With NOobs

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thanks

Ok lads thanks for the feed back, ill reroll myself see if that helps ;-)

Umm, still, any suggestion on the anti-hunter char?
 

Jaem-

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Anti archer class, anything with speced shield or a VW.

Valewalker is prob the best at killing them, has its own ranged insta DoT and snare, alongside being able to block alot of arrows with their lvl25 Scythe style.
 

Oro

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Classes with Nearsight and pets are quite fun against archers, but you must play in groups generally.
 

Belomar

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Did I read this correctly as having been set exclusively in the battlegrounds? Stealthers have always ruled the BGs, but not so in real RvR.
 

StonyPony

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Belomar said:
Did I read this correctly as having been set exclusively in the battlegrounds? Stealthers have always ruled the BGs, but not so in real RvR.
I'm doing pretty well in real rvr tho :clap:
 

Job

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Here's what I hate about the new BG's.
1: Guards are back to chasing you at mach 5 alway back to PK, they fixed that in original BG and then reintroduced it??
2: The towers block view of action on bridge ,I spend entire time trying to spin camera to see what the fuck is going on.
3: It is stealther paradise.
4: Pet pathing is bugged to fook, and always losing pet.
5: Mids /Albs always answer with 'get a grp', well duh I'm a Hib we don't have that luxury most of the time, we are lucky to have 4 players in a grp,if it is just down to numbers (which it is now more than ever) then the game should just say '32 Albs in BG ..Alb wins'

As I've said since I started this game, STEALTH RUINS THIS GAME as soon as you get a good fun scrap, one side sends in 5 freakin stelthers and were all back in keep.
 

Tafaya Anathas

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DrunkSkunk said:
like all fotm scouts

What considered fotm? Scouts started after NF was announced? Or all scouts? Don't think so. My scout was the 6th lvl 50 scout on Prydwen afaik, and I think I'm the oldest scout on the server who still plays (afaik). Do I considered fotm beacause I'm playing a class who don't need buffs and grp to enjoy the game?
The problem is not in the archer classes, it's in the numbers. Archers were up and down all the time, they were nerfed one time to unplayable, now they are a fun class to play. Some ppl saying stealthers for the cowards. Maybe yes, but imagine an archer or assasin without stealth.

I'd like to play my reaver but I can't, she couldn't get a grp because she isn't RR5 and ML8, but how do I reach RR5 if I can't get a group?
 

Herjulf

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Dances With NOobs said:
chars to rangers so we can have fun too. (Sneer)

Is it just me or are all classes basically useless if ur not a stealther?
Reroll shadowblade and see how fun it is...
paper armour, pillows as weapons and a big neaon sticker hovering above your head reading nuke!! blink maim blink <<< easy RPS!!

I read you on archer situation, boltrange+ range and surprise factor, but do NOT drag in melee assasains in the winge.

And also as i see it with the shrooms, if your shrooms had gotten in 2 rounds of damage in your example. 100+20+20+20 = 160x2 =320.
And i must say i havent ever been n00ked by any shroom ever ever for sub 60dmg. Seen some cast up the yellow spec spell shroom to save some mana, and they do on my resist capped shaman 70-100dmg/n00k.

but i DO see the problem with archers, they got it very easy atm with the range. Scouts in particular.
And dmgwise.. *shrugs* standard shot is better then an assasain PA in most cases.

But assasains, remeber that they got to engage one target in melee. And does like half the damage a caster does/strike.

Imo play a NS as u are hib and see how easy they have it.
Then come back and repeat that they have it to easy.
Im pretty shure they arent to happy with loosing avoid pain.
 

Leleith

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Jaem- said:
Anti archer class, anything with speced shield or a VW.

Valewalker is prob the best at killing them, has its own ranged insta DoT and snare, alongside being able to block alot of arrows with their lvl25 Scythe style.

He speaks of teh great wisdom.

Lightmenta with sidespec in mentalism is nice as well. Mezz, stun, nuke, nuke, nuke, recast bt and heal if needed, smile.
 

Herjulf

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Leleith said:
He speaks of teh great wisdom.

yes indeed, his wisdom shines upon us like a sparkling star in the sky.
And he has great humour.
 

Leleith

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Herjulf said:
yes indeed, his wisdom shines upon us like a sparkling star in the sky.
And he has great humour.

He was right, actually. VWs are stealther killing machines
 

Jaem-

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If that was a sarcastic remark, it is true from my experience, VW are harder for me to take then any shield tank, just can't kite them as you would a shield tank. :|
 

Sorro

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And lastly whats the best anti-hunter class? Coz im sick to death of port-turn into porcupine (prob not spelled right) port again.

Anti-Hunter.... hah my Enchanter works fine for that. If you can get a fully buffed pet that is.

Run out in the open, wait till u get attacked by some stealther, pet will chase them, 30 secs later u got RP's inc, very often that is. Sometimes they run to their group and gank pet (which takes forever for them). Buffed pet is needed.
 

Dances With NOobs

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Thanks

Thanks for all the reply's, and your all right, bg is owned by stealthers (by that i mean the archer classes). I took my higher lev toon out for a spin and had a great time holding onto blendrake t1 with a med size mid zerg for like an hour last night while a massive battle took place was the most fun I'd had in weeks. (Compliments to Dogan for leading the zerg)

I also played a bit of bg1 with a good group sitting up on fagans bridge tower with a ranger of our own and some melee chars+ward+bard, any cheap shot rangers got counterd by our own and anything that tried to come up to the top floor of the tower got blasted ;-) Was great fun (what a difference a good group makes).

Oh well like the borg say,

resistance is futile, but some resists help ;-)
 

Kalidur

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Try a friar, use a robe and a steeple hat.

would look just like a cloth caster from a stealthers point of view.
 

sweetleaf

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Kalidur said:
Try a friar, use a robe and a steeple hat.

would look just like a cloth caster from a stealthers point of view.


Dont do friar, they no stealther killers.
 

Kalidur

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Used to play on the US servers and a lot of friars used to wear robes and steeple hats just to lure out stealthers, and to be honest the times i've seen it the friars came out on top. spec for melee and buffs rather than healing
 

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