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Amel

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is it just me or is catacombs destroying thidranki? days like today we get about 10-20 vamps running round in thid... this is getting sick, so many people lured to buying catacombs for easy mode classes...
the really frikking stupid thing is there is no word of any nerf on the HoT or such, at least warlocks getting nerfed... guess we will be doomed with vamp zergs in thid for a very long time
 

Vodkafairy

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zzzzzzz, everyone wants to try the new classes, duh. roll a class that can easily kill vamps and have fun
 

Dorny

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Hehe i am getting sick of it too..

One dot from a warlock can take my fully sc'ed arms down..
got all my ressist capped, con and hits.. i am so sick of this..

The only problem i have with vamps, is their dd's and their hp.. they normally only do 20-40 dmg with their little dagger, but around 100 on the dd.. can't do much, with all that hp they got..
If u gonna duel them fair, u have to be fully buffed, to have kinda the same stats they got..

Nevermind - there is plenty of action in bg now, and i am glad that alb dont zerg around in 3 fg, so we can get a bit more 1 on 1 duels.

Catacombs is only for gimps who wants an overpowered class.. thats the only thing they can sell the game on..

FLazhed 24 arms (fotm):)
Ozo 24 infi
Rejuver 24 merc
Ironmonk 24 Friar
 

Thegreatest

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Ask Flazhed the pink Armsman how to kill Vampiirs

When I face him I feel like I'm a gimped class :p. Just cant hit him and when you dont hit you just dont get any power means you die pretty easy cause we don't have any form of defence without self buffs and we're just wearing leather. Also some infils and sb's are hard to kill too for vamps, but unfortunately they need to use 4 weapons with all different poisons on it (/hiya brokeninfil :p).

There are classes that can kill a Vamp without much trouble, and there are also classes which the vamp can kill without any trouble too. You just need to know the weak points. The hot kinda sucks, ticking sometimes 2x and sometimes 3x altho it has to tick 3x all the time. Afaik this is a know bug and also excists in the US. The hot can be countered easily by high damage dealing classes like Armsman/Mercenary/Zerker/Savage and some stealthers...Also any mage that is at range and isnt stupid can kill a vamp easily. We're not invincible really, just need to play smart against vamps.

/Bloodlove lvl 24 Vamp.
 

Coldbeard

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aye , this has been bothering me for a while also. The vampiir zerg is nothing more than plain boring to encounter when its out in full scale like today, people defending such an overpowered class like vampiir is funny. Have encountered vampiirs many times , its not like you can avoid it when every hibs you encounter is a flying Shar Savant.. everytime it is a no-win situation, the melee damage the vamps are dashing out arent the problem, but when they get their power going they suddently start to DD for 100-150 damage and evade/parry, all kinds of toys they have to play around with.. AND , the INSANE amount of hp, its nice to hit them with my 2h spear valk and see their hp drop down 10% ..I have even PA'ed vampiirs as 2h critblade SB and vamp is at 80% hp or so, you might want to believe I suck at playing my classes etc but I have been playing around along enough to know my stuff so for future replies don't even bother .. Have always enjoyed thid as a more relaxing change from rvr and the pve grind , now its just stress and too much annoyance instead of fun :/

The hot kinda sucks

yeah, being able to cast a hot with not too bad delve value while fighting - really sucks.
 

Ashton

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Thegreatest said:
(/hiya brokeninfil :p)
/hiya :worthy:

nothing more constructive to add that aint already been said, apart from /hug to the SM who helped the 4 of us take ck just now :wub:

yup...ac raid/suxx/lame/have to do it at night coz we aint got the skillz to take it during the day/zergers/gimp albs... bleh bleh etc etc...

...there i think i covered it all so maybe saved some ppl the trouble of :flame:
 

Amel

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all realms do it :p its when it comes to being the only person left in thid and spending 2 hours of ur time knocking down every single wall on ck that things kinda get sad :p its funny... i never see albs do it (and im almost always the alst alb to leave thid) but mids and hibs do it all the time
 

Amel

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Vodkafairy said:
zzzzzzz, everyone wants to try the new classes, duh. roll a class that can easily kill vamps and have fun

i have ;p rolled a scout and 1-4 shot killing them vamps... its their speed thats annoying :p they nearly always run past too fast b4 i can get more than 1 shot in...

(p.s. if u vamps think hot aint that good then why dont we just make it non-instant cast in combat? :p )
 

Umgrud

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Dorny said:
Catacombs is only for gimps who wants an overpowered class.. thats the only thing they can sell the game on..

lol ive had cata's from the first day but i didnt want it for the new classes....
i wanted the nice GFx's tbh
 

Dorny

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Umgrud said:
lol ive had cata's from the first day but i didnt want it for the new classes....
i wanted the nice GFx's tbh


The GFx ain't that good tbh.. only different ;)
But if i should buy it, it would be the same reason ;)
 

Perf

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Dorny said:
Catacombs is only for gimps who wants an overpowered class..

Wouldnt call myself a Gimp tbh and playing a vampiir has brought some solo fun at last for me, it is a fun class to play in Thid. I myself will run solo 95% of the time and have supplied enough Mids with easy rp's around mpk and have gained a few also. I now know which classes are easy and which are certain death but will not run from the latter, even if its a certain death fight it is still a solo fight which I'm always on the lookout for.

Overpowered in Thid ? maybe but I'm there standing on the hill overlooking MpK waiting for some fun even if its a win or lose encounter. Had some really good fights last night with Albs and Mids won some lost some, interesting encounters on the bridge towers with stealthers.

Thid isnt the "End" game its just part of the progression to lvl 50 we need rp's for ra's to assist this progression and gaining these rp's is fun, I really dont "get" it why some ppl get so worked up about losing to certain classes because there still losing out to the old classes also and ppl who are capping stats with sc'd equipment best weapons? are you not trying to become Op? I dont believe its because you have to be fully twinked to compete.
Imo ppl who are crying about this and crying about that just because they find it tough to fight and win these new classes need to Chill out. No offence meant.

Also while I think about it, the ppl who play thid for serious rvr will only play the toons that will have a better chance of winning anyway.

My thought about some of the comments, take em or leave em and I'll be there on the hillside out of Mpk tonight so come say /wave.
 

Awarkle

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o noes the vampire heretic and warlock zerg what shall we do. :puke:

get catacombs roll a vamp/warlock/heretic/valky/bainshee have some fun owning all the thidranki lifers.
 

Brend

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only thing that needs to be changed about vamp is stop the power tap interruptin ( bolt range insta interrupts is not even funny if u a caster :( )
 

Perf

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Brend said:
only thing that needs to be changed about vamp is stop the power tap interruptin ( bolt range insta interrupts is not even funny if u a caster :( )


Agree with you there, but until Vamps can afford charge it helps, but you got to get the timing right :)
 

haoth

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Only bad thing with catacombs is warlocs they are stupid and need a big nerf they must be nerfed hard, more that the 30% damage nerf, instead you can make some minor improvements to other mid classes.
 

Kalidur

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haoth said:
Only bad thing with catacombs is warlocs they are stupid and need a big nerf they must be nerfed hard, more that the 30% damage nerf, instead you can make some minor improvements to other mid classes.

gotta agree with you there, vamps u can almost handle, insane amounts of hp though.

Warlocks well have ruined leirvik and molvik, well what i saw of it anyway.

I miss all the battles that used to take place in molvik/leirvik, constant action through out the day, now lwirvik seems to only hold a few skirmishes and as soon as the warlocks show up everyone leaves. not that i blame them, instant death to everyone is frustrating.
 

Eeben

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Kalidur said:
gotta agree with you there, vamps u can almost handle, insane amounts of hp though.

Warlocks well have ruined leirvik and molvik, well what i saw of it anyway.

I miss all the battles that used to take place in molvik/leirvik, constant action through out the day, now lwirvik seems to only hold a few skirmishes and as soon as the warlocks show up everyone leaves. not that i blame them, instant death to everyone is frustrating.

only problem in bg about warlocks is the dot imo.. havent been instant killed yet like in rvr :wub: ...
 

Formash

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Amel said:
is it just me or is catacombs destroying thidranki? days like today we get about 10-20 vamps running round in thid... this is getting sick, so many people lured to buying catacombs for easy mode classes...
the really frikking stupid thing is there is no word of any nerf on the HoT or such, at least warlocks getting nerfed... guess we will be doomed with vamp zergs in thid for a very long time

Theres always WOW to play ;) or COH, or... or... remember you DON'T have to pay mythic/goa... just a thought. If you don't like it , don't play, nothings gonna change fortunately or unfortunately, however you look at it.
 

Nemlius

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Vamps aint that hard to deal with tbh a class with high evade could do it ok (savage,zerker,mercs ) and 2 hand users also have good chance vs Vamps ...only thing i can see as unfair is Vamps can get IP, i know that dont count in bg1 ;) but that should be changed.

To kill Vamp = range (if caster once you hit first he cant powerdrain you :p)
Evade skills = if vamps cant hit alot he gets no power and that = no HoT,evade,parry etc etc or plain and simple roll a zerker or 2 hand arms/pally and beat the crap out of em :p

Warlock can be nasty tho :) but like Vamps they worst in numbers.

that my 2 cents . and i have played with and against Vamps
 

Strega

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Nemlius said:
Vamps aint that hard to deal with tbh a class with high evade could do it ok (savage,zerker,mercs ) and 2 hand users also have good chance vs Vamps ...only thing i can see as unfair is Vamps can get IP, i know that dont count in bg1 ;) but that should be changed.

To kill Vamp = range (if caster once you hit first he cant powerdrain you :p)
Evade skills = if vamps cant hit alot he gets no power and that = no HoT,evade,parry etc etc or plain and simple roll a zerker or 2 hand arms/pally and beat the crap out of em :p

Warlock can be nasty tho :) but like Vamps they worst in numbers.

that my 2 cents . and i have played with and against Vamps


Some ppl actually take their thid toons out in real rvr to cap out rpts, so ip1 is possible to have.

PS:Had some nice fights vs you Ashton (aka Brokeninfil) playing my green kobbie savage Ovo awhile back. Killed you in our first fight but you totally destroyed me in our next one :worthy:
 

Ctuchik

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Heretic FTW!! :) i love my focus dot in thid :)

too bad those bloody fireballs shows where the damage is comming from. so most of the time i just barly can make 2 ticks worth of damage (usually 75 on first and 150 on second)

too easy to avoid the heretic DoT imo.. but im having fun anyway.. :)
 

LawBringer

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Met plenty that totally own my new Vamp - and plenty who seem to lose their brain - casters that forget to QC etc...

SB's Infis etc - hard to Hit so don't get power - Warlocks - nasty DoT - but most of them seem to stand and fight getting carried away with the hype about there chars - HoT and 1 dead Lock - POwer tap does not interupt a Lock - and with that range you stay well clear of Mid towers/keeps
 

Xoxarle

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Well, i played a bit on caster, and vamps interrupts can be quite annoying, but with a quickcast and some petspam, they aint too much trouble. Still find them to be pretty weak in a one on one against merc, they seem a mostly balanced class to be honest. Half the whines about thid stem mostly from albs lack of finding balanced groups, when a lot of vamp groups in hib have bards and druids, which is why they steamroll so much.
Warlocks are still a pain in the arse, but again, half of that comes from peoples lack of confidence fighting them and giving them range, instead of just charging in and dropping the little sods before the dot kills you :)
 

Kalidur

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gets harder in molvik/leirvik, warlocks are better at what they do, and have more chambers not to mention uninteruptable prima, its like maving moc 3 for 10 seconds in leirvik, molvik, to top off a killer LT, PBAO, DOT, ROOT, SPREAD HEAL.

maybe in thid warlocks dont come to power, but in the 35+ BG's its a different story.

not to mention the 35+ BG's has a substantial amounts of warlocks who alone are overpowered but when theres a few teamed up with other classes just goes off the scale.

glad to hear GOA are jumping to 1.75 and the locks are getting a nerf (ice wizards getting a boost :D), that dots being toned downed so is the Lt.

Something to note recently i've hardly seen any BD's in leirvik/molvik I really wonder if they've all switched to warlocks.

P.S. u cant charge a Warlock in molvik/Leirvik, its suicide the lock doesnt even need to use a dot to wipe you out if you charge em, can get off 2 chambers plus cast an uninteruptable by the time it takes you to charge em. even if you throw off interupts ur dead.
 

Xoxarle

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Kalidur said:
gets harder in molvik/leirvik, warlocks are better at what they do, and have more chambers not to mention uninteruptable prima, its like maving moc 3 for 10 seconds in leirvik, molvik, to top off a killer LT, PBAO, DOT, ROOT, SPREAD HEAL.

maybe in thid warlocks dont come to power, but in the 35+ BG's its a different story.

not to mention the 35+ BG's has a substantial amounts of warlocks who alone are overpowered but when theres a few teamed up with other classes just goes off the scale.

glad to hear GOA are jumping to 1.75 and the locks are getting a nerf (ice wizards getting a boost :D), that dots being toned downed so is the Lt.

Something to note recently i've hardly seen any BD's in leirvik/molvik I really wonder if they've all switched to warlocks.

P.S. u cant charge a Warlock in molvik/Leirvik, its suicide the lock doesnt even need to use a dot to wipe you out if you charge em, can get off 2 chambers plus cast an uninteruptable by the time it takes you to charge em. even if you throw off interupts ur dead.

Fair comments, since i haven't fought 'locks at later levels.
But the points still stand when it comes to the moans i hear about warlocks in thid, maybe other albs and hibs should enjoy fighting 'em in thid while they are not reaching their full potential.
 

Jaem-

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Dorny said:
Catacombs is only for gimps who wants an overpowered class.. thats the only thing they can sell the game on..

What about those that bought it for the excellent PvE content? Are they "gimps" too?
 

Ashton

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Strega said:
PS:Had some nice fights vs you Ashton (aka Brokeninfil) playing my green kobbie savage Ovo awhile back. Killed you in our first fight but you totally destroyed me in our next one :worthy:
Yeah i remember m8 was a couple of great duels :worthy:

that poor lil ns who backstabbed u as u was resting got quite a shock too didnt he :p
 

Strega

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Ashton said:
Yeah i remember m8 was a couple of great duels :worthy:

that poor lil ns who backstabbed u as u was resting got quite a shock too didnt he :p


Hehe, yes :)

Got me another suit since last we met, chose cap increase over af bonus:

Config Report

Stats

Str: 52 Int: 0 Hits: 98
Con: 50 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 47 Cha: 0
Qui: 44 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 13 Energy: 13 Crush: 13
Cold: 15 Matter: 19 Thrust: 14
Heat: 13 Spirit: 13 Slash: 13

Skills

5 Hand To Hand

5 Parry

Focus

Cap Increases

6 Qui

9 Dex

14 Str

12 Con

Other Bonuses

6 AF Bonus

2 Melee Speed Bonus


Curious if I see any changes in performance. Anyway, see you around mate and have a good one :drink:
 

knighthood

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Going to eat my words here, but ive remade Quarterstaff to kick vamps arse's <eat my words ofc cos i garuntee il still die one on one>. Not had any reports back from other friars, but id assume Friars self buffed with Crush weps which im pretty sure is what hibs leather is weak to, shuld in theory be able to take a vamp, especially if we get the snare off :).

But really i just wanna embaress the nightshades again ^_^

Btw if u got a friar for thid id advise getting the 7 rejuv for cure poisen, Warlock dots the stupidest spell ive ever encountered.

Btw quart has +14dex and quick cap, +12% buff bonus and a 20hp cap on top of capped resists in melee +mp staff with proc Ashton... MWHAHAHA I PWN YOUR STAT CAP ROG BUYING SKILLS BOSS !!, wait till u see the frickin gem i picked up on the ME :D

And lemme duel Brokeninfil xD
Just wait till im rr2 like u :p

Quarterstaff - Officer in Broken Swords
 

knighthood

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Lashout u r a prat... u really are
Next time i kill your buffbott and try to the kill the mob killing u, why keep hitting me like a nob end, i was trying to stop u having an xp death ffs

god hibs r stupid sometimes

Next time ill kill u both no problem while ure in combat <and he attacked me while he had a mob on him, not me attack him btw>
 

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