I gotta lotta tools at my disposal...

[*Kornholio*]

So says 'Dubya' Bush...

 

[dysfunction]

Like the vacuum between his ears!!

 

[Kippa.]

well rumsfeld comparing him to churchill was quite amusing

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by Kippa.
well rumsfeld comparing him to churchill was quite amusing

So did I, esp when I heard an expert later on saying what a crock of shit it was...not in those words of course

 

[Kippa.]

Originally posted by Embattle


So did I, esp when I heard an expert later on saying what a crock of shit it was...not in those words of course

I also thought this was funny

 

[Wij]

An article in the Daily Mirror is hardly likely to present a US President, especially a Republican one, in a favourable light. Dubya is no Churchill and I don't think anyone really meant that he was but to say that he's in a similar situation is only a little stretch of the truth. Exactly the same type of pinkos (to borrow an americanism - chattering classes sounds so gh3y ) said Churchill was a warmonger and that Hitler could be appeased.

Not that I actually support a war on Iraq. I don't have enough info on what's going on in Iraq to make an informed choice so I'm undecided. If however Saddam suddenly nukes Isreal, like Hitler invaded Europe, it will be a bit late for the Mirror to apologise won't it.

We'll see :/

 

[throdgrain]

I think theres actually some truth in what you just said there m8 .

 

[stu]

Originally posted by Wij
If however Saddam suddenly nukes Isreal, like Hitler invaded Europe, it will be a bit late for the Mirror to apologise won't it.

True. Except the UN Special Commission on Disarmament's report on Iraq, headed by one Scott Ritter (who describes himself as a 'card carrying Republican', and voted for President Bush), says that 95-98% of Iraq's strategic and chemical/biological arsenal has been destroyed or rendered inoperable, and that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest it has nuclear capability. A little fact which GW (and the rest of the USA) conveniently ignores when they need to come up with a reason for their little crusade.

 

[Wij]

Maybe so. Like I said I don't know the facts but when was the last time anyone actualy got in there to check this ? Chances are this is probably just a threat to get weapons inspectors back in.

 

[stu]

Unfortunately not. Iraq has turned round and said it's not going to let inspectors back in, because it's blatantly obvious that the USA is going to attack regardless. They're right as well - Bush and Rumsfeld have both now said that weapons inspection is not going to deter them from an attack - which just proves what a load of horseshit the "we need to remove the threat of terrorists" excuse was.

Incidentally, can anyone tell me why the inspection team left Iraq in the first place? Anyone? Put your hands back down if you think it was because Iraq expelled them (like US media widely reported), and go to the back of the class. If you said Clinton pulled them out in order to commence Operation Desert Fox (the oft forgotten 'second' Gulf war), give yourself a cookie. Extra points if you know that the US representatives in the UN inspections team were actually discovered to be CIA operatives, performing illegal spying activities and using peacekeeping operations as cover.

btw, the yanks have now finally noticed what's going on in Zimbabwe. Their response? Publically stating that they're working with opposition groups to get Mugabe removed from power. *sigh*

USA #1!!!

 

[ECA]

dubya has a great advantage - if he gets shot in the head it probably wont hit his brain

 

[FatBusinessman]

I don't suppose any of the patriotic Americans have stopped to ask which country has the largest stockpile of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in the world?

I'm not sure, but I've got a sneaking suspicion it's America.

 

[Nos-]

That may well be true FB, but the US isn't ran by a megalomanic dictator.

Although GW comes fairly close!

 

[Gumbo]

Originally posted by stu


...says that 95-98% of Iraq's strategic and chemical/biological arsenal has been destroyed or rendered inoperable, and that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest it has nuclear capability. A little fact which GW (and the rest of the USA) conveniently ignores when they need to come up with a reason for their little crusade.

Um so that leaves 2 to 5% still operable...

How many is that, and how many have to be used to then justify action?

To be honest I can't see the US and UK ever doing it 'properly' like a lot of people advocate, because the risks involved in street fighting in Baghdad would be more than the American/British public could stand.

However with the Air Supremacy available, I'm sure any suspicious sites could just be levelled if they don't let us look at them.

In my opinion, this whole Iraq thing is a bit of a red herring, the Iraqi regime is as much against Islamic Fundamentalism as the US and UK appear to be, (Iran/Iraq war anyone?). What we should be more worried about is the practically impossible to stop, suicide bomber who wonders into a Pizza Hut in Oxford Street, or a bus stop in Birmingham. We see it 3 times a week from Israel, what do we do if it starts happening here?