HWguys = HWgays ???

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old.BigSir

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Arch, I've just taken a look at your original post, you've said that you've only been playing for 3 weeks. About 4 months ago (I'd guess, got a terrible memory) it was a completely different story for HWs, they were very ping dependant. Mainly the only time they were used effectively were by LPBs in clanmatches. With the release of patch 1100 (TF1.5) came the new netcode which basically gave everyone a zero-ping in a very roundabout way.

Soooo, to try and cut a long story shortish... :p

HWs were bearable in the previous patch 1016, because there weren't many peeps playing them, as soon as the controversial patch was released, there was an outbreak of Dming HWs because quite simply they were massively overpowered (with a 0 ping). Valve then went some way towards toning them down with this latest release, but to some they're still too OTT.

Bah, so many other things were messed up in the new netcode, overall the 'sharpness' of the game seemed to be lost, also the speed of the game due to the new concs. Sometimes it feels more like a chess game than a FPS :p
 
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old.Archangel

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Ahhh I understand now Big. Altho the evening out of pings is a good idea, but not 0!! it makes the game more playable for us with 56k modems. I have no idea what it was like before. I average a ping of between 180 - 280 which isnt too bad, altho it shoots up to 350-400 when im on the new maps that came with the patch... just too many complex textures :( but hey ho life goes on :p
 
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old.RooT

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Reason their Hwgays is because u normaly find 3 camping in the say bit and with the normal 1 man off on a public server its a bit hard 2 get pasted 3 of em, and ever time they kill u they spam the chat thingy up with HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH i killed u im beater,and ppl get with pissed and u get hwgays llama and the server justs gets shite.........
 
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old.Archangel

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stoopid HW spammers

I can understand that. 3 HW in the same room is Turtleing and wayyyyyy over the top, and I disagre with gloating over a kill, you got a kill so what?? its the team that matters. To be honest tho.. pub servers arnt really the place to play TFC how it was ment to be. I am looking for a clan to join, cuz I can see how co-operation reaps greater rewards. I know how to win on maps, I know what stratagies can work, but on pub servers most ppl aren't intersted, they all want to glory hunt. I can see how lots of idiot HW's get on ppls nerves, they do mine! all I ask ppl is dont tar us all with the same brush :)

BTW, you can tell the newbie HW, cuz he attacks your base constantly ;)

If I ever meet any of the ppl who read, this in game, I hope you find me an honorable ally and Chivalrous opponent, and not what most ppl think a HWguy is like :)
 
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old.RooT

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/me still think hw=gay ;) bar jq if he read this
 
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old.Kurt_Angle

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It's a part of the game either live with it or don't bother playing, each player has there own thing, yours is a scout or medic most of the time, Each to his own i say, ever since i first started playing on barrysworld tfc servers, it's been the same, dead and the rest of we are better than everybody else players moan like fuck when they don't get there own way on servers. Ohh it's fucking true and you know it. Flame away im sure this will turn into a 10v1 thing like it does on the servers when anybody dare answers you back when you insult them. Btw iv'e nothing against Big Sir, your about the only member of A&I that iv'e never seen bitching people on the servers.
 
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Deady

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I dont bitch about people...not out loud anyway.

I just remember who they are and get revenge later...like concing them into the water on 2fort so they have to swim the long way...
 
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Atomic Rammer

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OMFG

Kurt, of all the posts I have ever read that has to be THE most annoying post I have ever read. It was just a nice little discussion about hwg's with people expressing their opinions and suddenly you're having a pop at our clan. WTF?

Lets have a look.
Your main point seems to be that our attitude is:
We are better than everybody else, we moan like fuck if we dont get our own way.

Have you seen our position in the bwtfcl? We are not a top clan and we know it. We are only in TFC to have a laugh. And thats why if we lose every match we wont fold unlike other clans coz A&I is just about having fun.

You seem to imply that we act like bullys etc. That is total crap. I know all of A&I and its just not in them to be like that.

I just cant understand for the life of me why u would post something like that.
Perhaps you can come up with something of substance rather than vague innuendo next time too.
 
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exxxie

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Ban Clan Whores!

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
Flame away im sure this will turn into a 10v1 thing like it does on the servers when anybody dare answers you back when you insult them. Btw iv'e nothing against Big Sir, your about the only member of A&I that iv'e never seen bitching people on the servers.


Who the HELL you think you are etc etc .. flame flame ..etc.. flame.

Ok... I do think Kurt overeacted a tad. Deadie is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. I've *never* seen him get in a mood ever on a TFC or CS server. Unless I TK him and spam my ----====LOL====---- bind a bit. :)

(and actually BS is the biggest arse of the lot but dont tell anyone) :p
 
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old.Cannon_Trodder

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It's like this:

I've been on-line for a few years now but never really bothered with the PC games scene as I didn't want to shell out for all the hardware when I had a Playstation. Anyway, when I got my cablemodem installed I downloaded the demo of TFC1.5 from http://www.real.com out of curiosity and was totally blown away by the buzz of playing against real people.

I tried every class but found them all pretty tough to pick up at first. Like most, I found myself playing as hwguy and to be honest that's the only way I got anything from the game initially. I'm not talking about frags here, I'm talking about not being the weak link on the team - ie screwing the game up for everyone else.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being hwguy in defence or attack or whatever. The important thing is that even a newbie can make life difficult for the attacking team as a hwguy.

If you think that *you* are of use to your team then you are more likely to grow in confidence and try to master some of the other classes such as Medic. I personally moved on to soldiers and demomen *both* of which can absolutely torture a hwguy if used properly.

And now I've moved onto counter-strike which I'd have got slaughtered on if I hadn't learnt my trade on TFC first.

HW guys may be a bit frustrating for some TFC players but ultimately any class that makes it easier to get into this game has got to be worthwhile. And if you can't find a way to kill them, then maybe you should consider playing as one for a while and learn from the other players who *do* manage to kill them regularly :)
 
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exxxie

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Ban Clan m0ngs!

Yes Deadie - play as a Heavy Weps chappie more please, either attacking or defence. Specially during our match on Thursday - Grim can conc you and Astra can infect you and I'll finish you off with a tranq or two in the arse. :)
 

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