Hunter spec

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Fledgling Freddie
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Hunters?

Anyone wanting to create a hunter for BG1 should havva word with Aneurism cos she rocks. Dropped me 2x in a duel. Though i was close she and the doggy hit real hard. Surprised me i must admit.

PKJ
 

Svendoc

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Thanx Thug, were both close though first duel had 8% second 20% health left

Spec

Race: Norse

Start points:
con str dex (10 in each)

Bow 18
Sword 16
Stealth 19
BC 13

RP points at 125
Toughness
Aug Strength
Aug Con or LW
 

Bubble

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Kobold
Aug Dex
Aug Qui
Aug Str

24 bow
19 stealth
10 Spear
7 BC

10 in Dex/Qui/Con


This spec assumes you have a buffbot
 

Svendoc

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trust me Bubble I would win have tried 5 different spec all races and this i by far the best

aneurism is 7th gen thuid hunter
 

Bubble

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Its personal Preferance
for instance
My Spec allows-
7 BC green pet for interupts
10 Spear Anytime style with Evade style (Low damage yeah but tbh why are you meleeing unless your enemy is on 10% or is a caster)
24 Bow for 4 second Critical Shot and 3 second anytime shot and ofc massive damage
19+5 stealth is normaly enought to keep assasins and scouts away from you

Basicly the same spec as hargards Scout Bowmaiden (He death spams well with her and solos alot) but he has shield instead of BC :)
 

Moriaana

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Same spec as my huntress, Rhasa :)

And heres my template (I got bored with levelling artifacts :p):

Config Report

Stats

Str: 41 Int: 0 Hits: 105
Con: 49 Pie: 0 Power: 12
Dex: 39 Cha: 6
Qui: 48 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 16 Energy: 14 Crush: 16 (2)
Cold: 19 (5) Matter: 13 Thrust: 16
Heat: 13 Spirit: 13 Slash: 16 (3)

Skills

5 Stealth

3 Spear

7 Sword

4 Parry

Focus

Cap Increases

10 Con

Other Bonuses

Piece Listing

Chest
Imbue Points: 18.5 of 19 (100 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
Gem 2: 3 Crush Resist - 99 rough Fiery Shielding
Gem 3: 13 Strength - 99 imperfect Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 10 Dexterity - 99 flawed Vapor Essence
Utility: 31.33

Arms
Imbue Points: 16.5 of 16 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 5 Matter Resist - 99 flawed Earthen Shielding
Gem 2: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 flawed Airy Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Crush Resist - 99 flawed Fiery Shielding
Gem 4: 1 Slash Resist - 99 raw Watery Shielding
Utility: 32.00

Head
Imbue Points: 16.0 of 16 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 5 Cold Resist - 99 flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 2: 3 Heat Resist - 99 rough Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Energy Resist - 99 flawed Light Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Thrust Resist - 99 rough Airy Shielding
Utility: 32.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 16.0 of 16 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 3 Cold Resist - 99 rough Icy Shielding
Gem 2: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Energy Resist - 99 flawed Light Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Matter Resist - 99 rough Earthen Shielding
Utility: 32.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 16.5 of 16 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 5 Matter Resist - 99 flawed Earthen Shielding
Gem 2: 5 Spirit Resist - 99 flawed Vapor Shielding
Gem 3: 3 Thrust Resist - 99 rough Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 2 Stealth - 99 uncut Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 36.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 16.0 of 16 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 3 Spirit Resist - 99 rough Vapor Shielding
Gem 2: 3 Stealth - 99 rough Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Strength - 99 uncut Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 7 Dexterity - 99 rough Vapor Essence
Utility: 28.33

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 5 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 14.5 of 14 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 3 Composite Bow - 99 rough Airy War Rune
Gem 2: 13 Dexterity - 99 imperfect Vapor Essence
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 23.67

Neck
Name: mighty choker
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 16 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 16 Dexterity
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.67

Cloak
Name: serrated mantle
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Constitution
Effect 2: 24 Hits
Effect 3: 8 Body Resist
Effect 4: 4 Sword
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Jewel
Name: fortifying gem
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 22 Constitution
Effect 2: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 5 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.67

Belt
Name: speedy obsian belt
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 30 Quickness
Effect 3: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 10 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 45.00

Right Ring
Name: Simplistic Ancestral Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Body Resist
Effect 2: 30 Hits
Effect 3: 4 Power
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 31.50

Left Ring
Name: cursed mora ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Strength
Effect 2: 6 Constitution
Effect 3: 6 Charisma
Effect 4: 6 Dexterity
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 16.00

Right Wrist
Name: bladeblocker bracelet
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Power
Effect 2: 4 Parry
Effect 3: 5 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 4 Energy Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 54.00

Left Wrist
Name: speedy bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 35 Hits
Effect 2: 2 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 1 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 18 Quickness
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 26.75

No weapons included in template, so I can use anything I want. That includes the heat LW I had sitting in my vault gathering dust :D
Before you all start whining, I have no bot, so I need all the help I can get. :p
 

Svendoc

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Bubble,

I have tried that spec and many others, your spec is limited to sniper, although you will do more damage than me with bow, I would win any fight against that spec, only time your would be better is CK defense and not by a great deal.

You are very vunerable to infils jumping you and basically will not win in that situation where as I do

Can kill from range and when jumped.
 

Gaddry

Fledgling Freddie
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hmm can any1 help me decide, i cant work out if i want my hunter to be either the following specs.

basically similar to that of svendocs with the higher BC for better pet.

or

go for following

21 Bow
19 stealth
16 spear
6 BC

the second choice, means i have reasonably high spear, good bow damage, stealth is fine, but i get the speed boost in BC for escaping if things get tough.

Compared to svendocs who has blue pet, but at 18 bow seems little low. How is your damage at 18 with bow?

Oh and i have gone for spear just cus my skald was sword, so its sumit different. But also with all those nasty infils debuffing strength spear being dex/strength im hoping means i wont be as gimped if they land the debuff.
 

Svendoc

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Gaddry

No point imho going higher in BC as next pet is lvl 20, you get a lvl 19 pet with BC 13 anyway and as pet can only be 80% of your lvl you are using ALOT of points for 1 lvl difference max.

At the end of the day your call if you want sniper only go kobold bow otherwise try mine, this is third hunter i have specd like this in Thid and IMHO by far the best.
 

Gaddry

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really question was more...do i go 13 BC (no higher than this) or do i go for higher bow damage...and just have 6 BC for the speed but no blue pet?
 

vendat

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24 bow
19 stealth
13 spear
rest bc

kobbie hunter named anarow :) i do ok.
 

Iceflower

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>do i go 13 BC (no higher than this) or do i go for higher bow damage

I would go 13 BC as blue con wolfie is a life saver against a lot of infis and nses, the bad ones end up with braking stains in their pants and then they start to run giving you a free win unless they find some friends fast. Wolfie is good for reducing infi evade rate as long as you keep it behind them, ie move backwards in fight, while doing decent damage. Remember you wield a very slow spear in close quarter fighting. But at the end of the day, the spec you chose is only good if it fits your playing style.

My spec is 21 bow, 18 stealth, 13 bc and rest in spear, think it is 13 or 14 not sure. Works very well, have a positive kill ratio in fights against solo stealthers (though solo assassins are quite rare nowadays I have noted) sofar (selfbuffed only) over several versions of Iceflower :) You will loose against most buffed assassins but I have to wait until patch 1.70 to find out if that is same when the ghost Ld problem is fixed.

No ToA crap and crafted af60 armour and well made lvl 26 weapons. I really dont want to make a new template, working on the thesis of dont fix what aint broken. :D That and my lucky black cloak :)
 

Logan5

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I got same spec as Sven on Kylee except spear instead of sword.. having tried a few set-ups this one is nice.

I just soloed a mincer and 'AN Other' melee type and lived ... surprised me mind.

Get a good AC and SC set of armor and get those stats sorted ...

Any other spec doesnt stand a good all round chance in thid.
 

Staffzor

Fledgling Freddie
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Spec I usually run with is

18sword
19Bow
19Stealth
8Beastcraft

Have killed many infils with that spec some of which have dropped buffs. Hunters kinda rock in BGs imo.
 

wismerhill

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hi my name is mechanic ... hunter and new to mid/pryd ... I do ok now but when I had shitty armor I couldnt kill hardly anything except for wounded or blue's :s


my spec is ( not included the +'s ):
21 bow (+3 atm )
21spear
15 stealth (+5 atm )
1BC

is this an ok spec ? I'm having fun with it but tbh I kinda miss a blue pet and the high spear doesn't suit me well at all tbh ... I hardly melee anything and when I do it's just for the anytime-combo who has a snare so I can get away and if it's a tank or so get a shot off from distance ...


( getting suit sc'ed hopefuly soon so I'll have higher bow/stealth/spear , ... )
( check crafting-topic if u wanna see my noob-thread ^^ )


btw I saw the duels between jpk and the hunter yesterday ... v impressive :)

altho I find "axemaste" 1 of the best sb's I have seen in thid so far :)
 

Amel

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It all depends on play style, imo if you know how to play a hit and run char and like it the best spec is kobold 24 bow 13 BC 19 stealth rest in spear which is mine. Ive loved it so far, i can take out almost any target i choose as long as i get the position of pet to break BT (if its a caster) and the positioning of myself fine.

Also another key factor of being a sniper is choosing your targets, main threats are theurgs so take them out unless you think you can kill the cleric in a few shots from a safe spot not many would look (but that tends to make albs retreat back to their keep and hide).

Problem with this build is youre melee sux, its quite simple though you just have to run from melee fights (anyway if 1 infil pops out and hits you theres either gonna be a zerg nearby or the rest of his stealth group to finish you off). One problem though, you gotta watch out for pets... best thing is to run until youre alone with the pet and let your own pet take care of it, its on a very short recast timer so if your first one happens to die your next one wont be far off :p
 

Valkybabe

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Yeah aneurism is quite good hunter so far only fought her 2 times and once she beat me at mb, the other i killed her. I also play Mid/Excal and the spec my hunter has is:

21 bow
16 spear
19 stealth
7 BC

I tried 24 bow before which is ok for sniping but even with 21 bow my critshot is in the 400's which aint bad and swinging with a spear for 100-200+ (depending on resists) aint bad either i have dropped quite a few infs that have jumped me before but pet is a bit lower but i only use it to chase stealthers/interupt casters if i am taking on more than 1 target at a time.
 

Bubble

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Svendoc said:
Bubble,

I have tried that spec and many others, your spec is limited to sniper, although you will do more damage than me with bow, I would win any fight against that spec, only time your would be better is CK defense and not by a great deal.

You are very vunerable to infils jumping you and basically will not win in that situation where as I do

Can kill from range and when jumped.

I look at this from a different point
I play a level 24 slash inf whos fully spellcrafted and botted
I can kill buffed spear spec hunters without using endurance, so i figure if your 1 v 1 against an inf, hes going to start by PAing you or garroting and at least hit you twice before you get your spear out(at this point your dieased and Str/con debuffed) Your weapon skill is now shit, your hardly hit him.

With 24 Bow and high stealth you have the fun of oneshotting sitting casters etc, also do alot of frontload damage. Its the same with a scout, specing alot in slash/thrust and Shield will not help you V a shadowblade or a Nightshade.
 

Svendoc

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Bubble

I I have already stated your choice either bow spec kobold or sword spec norse alrounder

kobold has NO chance against infil Where as Norse Sword does, your infil so tough duel me.
 

Bubble

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Svendoc said:
Bubble

I I have already stated your choice either bow spec kobold or sword spec norse alrounder

kobold has NO chance against infil Where as Norse Sword does, your infil so tough duel me.

You 'Choice' was Norse Sword or Norse sword :) I'm just giving pros and cons in my view (playing as a Scout/Inf) and as a Inf i know a hunter can't compair in melee abilities to a Infiltrator unless one is weaker setup than other (Unbuffed/unspellcrafed etc) My scout is in the same situation (as are rangers) that if a shadowblade gets the jump on us, we are normaly very dead.

If you travel alone i would love to fight your hunter, specialy if you say he'll be a challenge :)
 

Iceflower

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>kobold has NO chance against infil

That is your experience, Iceflower can tell a different story ;)
 

Amel

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kobold hunter always has a chance against the infil :D its just a question of can he escape the garrote spam? if u can then you can just call a pet and keep running :D infil will eventually give up chasing and if u were able to save some end from the garrote spam then u can just pull a bow out :p only prob... infils dont tend to solo much nowadays so there might always be another hanging around
 

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