Humble Bundle

[Nate]

I don't know if you guys have seen this before, but I quite like it. It supports indie games and charity at the same time. You can activate your games on steam if you want to or download it through the website. They come out with new ones every now and again.

http://www.humblebundle.com/

 

[Keitanz]

I have bought all of them, love them..

Normally pay about double the average price, so around £8-10.. know quite a few people who only pay 1p though, shame on them... I hope they only get paid peanuts for a job when they are older.

Voxatron is class also

 

[Moriath]

Some ppl do get paid peanuts or not at all and it's none of their own fault. It gives people the chance to pay what they can and feel is right. Who are you to judge their circumstances ?

 

[Scouse]

Some ppl do get paid peanuts or not at all and it's none of their own fault. It gives people the chance to pay what they can and feel is right. Who are you to judge their circumstances ?

Cheapskate

 

[PLightstar]

I always pay above the average to get the extra stuff. Haven't decided if I should get this one yet.

 

[MYstIC G]

I don't know if you guys have seen this before, but I quite like it. It supports indie games and charity at the same time. You can activate your games on steam if you want to or download it through the website. They come out with new ones every now and again.

http://www.humblebundle.com/

Loads of times however I don't believe in the new "pay over the average" system. There's something not right about linking peoples greed to charity.

 

[Nate]

Loads of times however I don't believe in the new "pay over the average" system. There's something not right about linking peoples greed to charity.

The whole thing is about greed though, who out of all the people that have bought it would have given money to the charity if it didn't have games involved?

 

[Keitanz]

Some ppl do get paid peanuts or not at all and it's none of their own fault. It gives people the chance to pay what they can and feel is right. Who are you to judge their circumstances ?

Yeah, while buying it on their iPhone.

Whatever.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Not your problem though is it? If someone says "you can pay if you want", there's no moral, legal, or even conscience issue if they don't. You can pay and somehow feel better for doing so, but it doesn't mean others are "lesser humans" for not paying.

 

[MYstIC G]

The whole thing is about greed though, who out of all the people that have bought it would have given money to the charity if it didn't have games involved?

Well I'd say that was about encouraging gamers to do a good thing. Personally I put in £5 for my poppy this year.

Thing is the new average thing turns it into split level giving. If someone poor gives what they can but doesn't bust the average they end up giving proportionally more and being encouraged less. On the other hand I can bust the average easily but don't want to jack it up for everyone else. I don't think it's a good system and Humble is becoming more and more frequent now, almost business like instead of a really special thing for charity.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The whole thing is about greed though, who out of all the people that have bought it would have given money to the charity if it didn't have games involved?

Not to mention, what's with people taking their own need to feel better about themselves(charity) and using it against people as some kind of an enforcer?

Charity should be just that, charity, it doesn't involve money in it's basis. I can care, and thus be charitable, even if i don't try and show my wealth by showing money into every charityhole and even at that level, if i don't care for a subject, i shouldn't be forced to do so.

Worst are those who on one hand expect you to be charitable and then say that people shouldn't force their ways/beliefs/lifestyles on others.

...umm...rant over...*cough*

 

[Keitanz]

Not your problem though is it? If someone says "you can pay if you want", there's no moral, legal, or even conscience issue if they don't. You can pay and somehow feel better for doing so, but it doesn't mean others are "lesser humans" for not paying.

There is a moral conscience, most people who buy the game for £0.01 are doing it because they CAN.. they can afford to give £10 but chose not to just because they can give £0.01, if they the same group of people were offered the best car in the world for "pay what you want".. they would also give £0.01.

Cheapskates, they simply don't understand how much hard work, time and skill goes in to creating a game like Voxatron.

And by the way, I would love a Humble Bundle every week, they promote the hell out of indie games, which can only be a good thing..

 

[Keitanz]

Not to mention, what's with people taking their own need to feel better about themselves(charity) and using it against people as some kind of an enforcer?

Charity should be just that, charity, it doesn't involve money in it's basis. I can care, and thus be charitable, even if i don't try and show my wealth by showing money into every charityhole and even at that level, if i don't care for a subject, i shouldn't be forced to do so.

Worst are those who on one hand expect you to be charitable and then say that people shouldn't force their ways/beliefs/lifestyles on others.

...umm...rant over...*cough*

Who said anything about charity, every time I buy the humble bundle about 80% goes to the developers, 10% charity and 10% humble tip.. you can chose where the money goes, it's not exactly charity by default..

To my understanding that's not the reason the Humble Bundle was created, it was made to show case good indie games which are not getting the exposure they deserve.. while also helping charity..

The actual creator of the entire thing is making his own game, which looks pretty fun.. http://blog.wolfire.com/

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm guessing you've never pirated a game, downloaded a movie, copied music, or back in the day copied amiga games from friends?

 

[MYstIC G]

There is a moral conscience, most people who buy the game for £0.01 are doing it because they CAN.. they can afford to give £10 but chose not to just because they can give £0.01, if they the same group of people were offered the best car in the world for "pay what you want".. they would also give £0.01.

Cheapskates, they simply don't understand how much hard work, time and skill goes in to creating a game like Voxatron.

And by the way, I would love a Humble Bundle every week, they promote the hell out of indie games, which can only be a good thing..

Actually your logic is flawed. You can't say pay what you want then complain when people do. That doesn't make them cheapskates. If the developers couldn't afford to do this then they would set a minimum price, even if it was $1.

 

[Keitanz]

I'm guessing you've never pirated a game, downloaded a movie, copied music, or back in the day copied amiga games from friends?

This is different, iit probably costs them more than 1p to deliver the content to the downloader.

Pirating a game doesn't cost the developer anything.

 

[old.Tohtori]

This is different, iit probably costs them more than 1p to deliver the content to the downloader.

Pirating a game doesn't cost the developer anything.

Ahem;

Cheapskates, they simply don't understand how much hard work, time and skill goes in to creating a game like Voxatron.

Yeah, let's put that hypocrisy hammer down over there and get back to our highhorse.

 

[Keitanz]

There is a difference between making people pay for your enjoyment and getting something for free..

I don't agree with piracy either, but games are so overpriced (30-40? what..?) that most people don't have a choice..

Indie games are normally below £10 so are affordable even if you have no job and 20 kids.

Oh and I would NEVER pirate an indie game, never.. but if I'm being asked to spend £40 (which I don't have) or pirate a game, and I want to play it, of course I'm going to pirate it.. if the game is £10.. and I have £10.. I'll most likely buy it..

 

[old.Tohtori]

It's the same thing. You're not buying a game because you don't think it's worth it, people aren't donating more then 0.01 because they don't think it's worth it.

Being indie has nothing to do with it. You're effectively, as you stated it, saying that higher price game devs, their effort and time put in, don't deserve the same praise because they have a publisher.

Oh and one more caveat; lot of indie games have a publisher(not sure if humble bundles go by valve) which take a sum for distribution, so the increased download rate has no impact, only the end result in sales.

 

[Keitanz]

Nah, people are not donating more than £0.01 because they can just donate £0.01 and get the same product as someone who pays £100..

 

[Raven]

That may be the case, but there is nothing wrong with that at all, neither morally or legally. Yeah they may be a tight arse or they may not agree with the charity or charity in general.