hows this to make you sick then

[Ezteq]

just read this on the aol news thingy, after that irish lady with cancer won the lotto i felt all warm and fuzzy, after reading this it begs the question, why!!!!! they should take the money off him and give to his victims and the families tbh

Rapist Scoops £7m on the Lottery
The prisoner bought his ticket while on temporary release at a bail hostel

A rapist serving life in prison has scooped £7 million on the National Lottery.

Iorworth Hoare, 52, was on temporary release staying at a Middlesbrough bail hostel when his numbers came up in last Saturday's Lotto Extra draw.

According to The Sun, Hoare, a coal miner's son, began a series of sex attacks while he was still in his 20s and was sentenced to a total of 18 years between 1973 and 1987.

His catalogue of crimes include one rape, two attempted rapes and three indecent assaults.

Hoare, formerly of Seacroft Gate, Leeds, was jailed for life at Leeds Crown Court in 1989 for attempting to rape a 60-year-old woman in a park in the city.

Bizarrely, he was trapped by a photograph he sent to a television station in a effort to be chosen for the Winner Takes All quiz show.

He was on weekend leave from Middlesbrough's South Bank bail hostel when he won his £7,039,469 fortune.

Under Home Office guidelines, prisoners in open conditions - on a day release or community project - are allowed to take part in the Lottery and claim prizes. They can also play the football pools and buy Premium Bonds.

Before the win, Hoare was a category D prisoner at Leyhill open prison and was spending weekend leave at Middlesbrough.

Other prisoners told The Sun Hoare that looked "really smug" when he told them of his luck and reportedly said: "I'm made for life now." He added: "I'm going to be sound for the rest of my life. I'll do well from here on in till the day I die."
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i might be a wee bit out of order here but i sincerely hope that this bugger gets butt fucked by a rhino while he's prancing about gloating over his good fortune.

 

[tris-]

i dont care he won money, what i do care about is the fucker is on day release. if your in prison then fucking stay there till your time is up.

MIDDLESBROUGH!! man i live in boro too. southbank is a shit hole. about 70% of the people in boro should be in prison, infact, its like australia here. the whole town is a giant prison where the prisoners can roam free among the every day joes

 

[Darkchylde]

you're all so simple minded ^^ learn to forgive and the lord will praise you and save your soul! (dang, I sound like an alb )

 

[Morchaoron]

you're all so simple minded ^^ learn to forgive and the lord will praise you and save your soul! (dang, I sound like an alb )

i will forgive him once he's dead

 

[tris-]

i dont have a lord.

 

[Ezteq]

i dont care he won money, what i do care about is the fucker is on day release. if your in prison then fucking stay there till your time is up

lol i thought that too but was so furious i couldnt type, this guy is a serious sex attacker....Hmmm lets let him out! what bunch of dumbasses thought that one up,
totally agree they do the crime they shouldnt get wee holidays away from prison the whole idea is to punish them.

 

[Morchaoron]

lol i thought that too but was so furious i couldnt type, this guy is a serious sex attacker....Hmmm lets let him out! what bunch of dumbasses thought that one up,
totally agree they do the crime they shouldnt get wee holidays away from prison the whole idea is to punish them.

yep something went wrong with that in the netherlands, they let a childrapist go on 'test release' and while on this 'test release' he kidnapped a 14 year old child and abused her, in the end the german police managed to arrest him and save the child

then came the facts:

- he has been on 'test realease' earlier and failed to return on the set time 3 times
- they didnt go after him when he noticed he hadnt returned yet because IT WOULD BE AGAINST HIS PRIVACY

fucking morons here, stick the fuckers in jail and keep them there....
'test release'...... so our county is one big lab, we are its test animals and the offender is their experiment? what a load of crap...

 

[Escape]

Rapists should be executed on conviction. What is the point of keeping them alive for xx years and then releasing them into retirement. It's a waste of resources, using 30k/year while they're in jail, then giving them a pension.

As the law stands though, he won the money so it belongs to him.
If a rapist comes out of prison and gets a job, you won't tell him to pay part of the wages to his victims. So it doesn't apply here either, imo.

 

[tris-]

maybe extreme but victims shouldnt get money unless its a family whos lost part or all of the main income.

a rape victim doesnt need money really. i dont like it when people ask for money for compensation, does £30k really make you happier that your kid was killed?

 

[Driwen]

Rapists should be executed on conviction. What is the point of keeping them alive for xx years and then releasing them into retirement. It's a waste of resources, using 30k/year while they're in jail, then giving them a pension.

As the law stands though, he won the money so it belongs to him.
If a rapist comes out of prison and gets a job, you won't tell him to pay part of the wages to his victims. So it doesn't apply here either, imo.

I am all for locking incurably insane people up (and throw away the key), but killing them isnt ok. For example what if the guy actually didnt do it or what if his disease can be cured and he has sit 20 years in prison as penalty?

and Morchaoron test releasing isnt bad, as its better to first test if the person is actually ready to be released than just guessing that he is. Off course it is bad when it is proven the guy wont come back in time(unless those test releases are years apart from eachother).

Also privacy on such a release is bullshit, you are being tested if you can live an ok life outside. Theu cant see that if they give him some kind of privacy during that test, besides that he (as he did in this case) did a crime so the punishment is no privacy till its proven that its ok for him to live outside again (and at the test release it isnt proven that it is ok yet as it is a TEST).
Atleast this is what i think about it without to much knowledge of it.

 

[Job]

Great way of thinking , expect everyting could be blamed on a disease.

This is the crux of being a sentient being, are we responsible for our actions or can every bad thing we do be explained as faults in our brain structure.

Are psycopathic murderers born that way or do they make a conscious decision to be evil.

Is that decision out of their hands because of some genetic malformation that results in them turning murderous.

We like to think we are in control, but we certainly aren't, billions of years of evolution is in the driving seat actually.

You may be able to control your anger, but for some other guy it may be at a level he just can't contain.
So you say to him, help yourself, seek treatment, but some other factor prevents him from doing so.
These arguments are brought up in trials all the time, and strange verdicts are passed down- temporary insanity, diminished responsibility.

The truth is we have 2 choices, to hold ourselves accountable for everything or blame it all on programming faults in the brain.
We will slowly slide down the road of finding a 'fix' for everything.
Of course after the event is to late, so mankind will have to introduce a 'virus' guard for the brain.

This may sound a little kooky, but trust me it will happen,

 

[Sissyfoo]

I think you're all missing the point!

HE WON £7,000,000!!! He rapes women and he is rewarded for it!!

This is conclusive evidence that there is no god. Reality sucks fucking shit!

On an another note, I have just finished my 10th consecutive day of overtime. At this rate it will take me 1166 years to get as much money as this guy.

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[tris-]

he didnt get payed to rape women.

 

[Marczje]

now that would be odd..

 

[Archeon]

Personally I think the whole things a joke. The very concept of weekend leave from a prison is just... wtf!? More than that its a wtf in capital letters so large you could see them from space. I guess I can get my mind around it if we're talking somthing which (in comparision) is relativly small, but for a rapist to be let out!?!!

I don't much care that he won the money, but why the hell are they letting rapists out!!? Pfft, in any case this is just another reason i'm voting for the Tories, Zero tollerence is sounding better by the minute

 

[Sissyfoo]

he didnt get payed to rape women.

No shit, smart arse. I'm referring to divine justice, karma, etc.

Regardless, he is gonna get out sooner or later and then he has a nice bundle of cash to play with when he is free. I'll be quite surprised if he gives any of it to a rape crisis charity. I know I wouldn't (if I was of the mindset to rape women).

I kinda agree with Archeron; this whole things stinks of 'wtf'...but for different reasons.

Oh well, kinda funny in a darkly ironic way. Bet it sucks to be one of his victims now...more so than it did before this of course.

Personally, I don't care about his weekend release. He is almost at the end of his sentence and he was probably closely monitored. Even if he wasn't and somehow escaped, pfft...aren't we used to this kind of crap by now? The fact that he is a multi-squillionaire now really bugs me though.

 

[Bunnytwo]

One that struck me a daft form of justice was on breakfast TV this morning, guy crashed into another car, injuring the occupants. He was not insured, which was hardly suprising as he had no licence.

The punishment £150 fine and 6 points on his licence. WTF was that about 6 points on a licence he didn't even have on the theory that at some point he might actually bother getting one. Not bad either £150 fine, don't know about anybody else but my insurance certainly isn't that low.

 

[tris-]

yeh its bollocks, but the judge must work within the law. i heard a lot of times them saying things like
"this is the most punishment i can give though i think it should be more"

or some crap a long those lines.

 

[Morchaoron]

I think you're all missing the point!

HE WON £7,000,000!!! He rapes women and he is rewarded for it!!

This is conclusive evidence that there is no god. Reality sucks fucking shit!

On an another note, I have just finished my 10th consecutive day of overtime. At this rate it will take me 1166 years to get as much money as this guy.

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well but on the other hand, it could be the ultimate prank of the devil!! 7m and you cant spend it because you are in jail for the rest of your life!!!

if he hadnt been in jail he would never have to work again and could have come here to the NL and take as many whores as he wanted!!!

 

[Driwen]

Great way of thinking , expect everyting could be blamed on a disease.

This is the crux of being a sentient being, are we responsible for our actions or can every bad thing we do be explained as faults in our brain structure.

uhm what I was saying that if it is a disease, meaning that his mind forced it do to him and didnt think about getting caught or didnt mind getting caught (which means that either the jail time should be upped or he/she hated the other person so much to do it or he is insane). Now then first let him sit the jail time according to the crime (which is as revenge for the family), than try and treat the guy. That doesnt mean he will get out soon, it just means that he wont get out until there is reasonably certainty that he is actually sane again(saying reasonably as you can never be 100% sure and locking them all up forever isnt justified as he has already sit his time (note: fair time is probably more than what current is allthough I wouldnt know how hard it is to sit 6 months of prison time let alone 20 years and I never been in jail before, but I can probably imagine how it feels to be in there for a short period)).

 

[Job]

LOL in my local tonight, the barman and the customers were discussing this one and someone shouts out

'what the fuck was he doing out anyway?'

The barman replies 'he was on a foreigner'

Laughed for 10 mins on that one.

 

[Addlcove]

uhm what I was saying that if it is a disease, meaning that his mind forced it do to him and didnt think about getting caught

he knew very well what he did, very few rapes are about loosing control over oneself, those are usually called date-rapes. most of the rapes that takes place are a cold-minded SoaB doing,

rape is NOT a sex crime, it´s a control crime, they don´t get off on the sex what they do get off on is having absolute control over their victims

 

[Sissyfoo]

well but on the other hand, it could be the ultimate prank of the devil!! 7m and you cant spend it because you are in jail for the rest of your life!!!

if he hadnt been in jail he would never have to work again and could have come here to the NL and take as many whores as he wanted!!!

The thing is that 'life' doesn't mean 'life'. The papers say he is near the end of his sentence and the fact that he was let out probably means it is gonna be fairly soon.

A normal life sentence is usually something like 15-30 years...iirc. Then they get parolled. Yay!

 

[Driwen]

he knew very well what he did, very few rapes are about loosing control over oneself, those are usually called date-rapes. most of the rapes that takes place are a cold-minded SoaB doing,

rape is NOT a sex crime, it´s a control crime, they don´t get off on the sex what they do get off on is having absolute control over their victims

Getting off on the control isnt sick minded?
Basically if someone knows he isnt going to get away with it or doesnt care about it and has no real specific hatred towards the victim than isnt it rather sick to do the crime?

 

[Bunnytwo]

Then he should never be let out. He'd carried out a series of sexual attacks previously, he would have undergone whatever treatment programmes they think work for this sort of person, they obviously didn't work. Throw away the key.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Heh, its getting back to the old "broken tail light, life in prison - 1st degree murder, 3 weeks in barbados!".

This guy was doing time, which IMO means all rights and privaledges are removed until you have served your sentance. No I hear you say? Lets look at an example.

In this dudes case, comes out on temp leave and decides he wants some action, so helps himself, doesnt get caught, strolls back to jail and no one is any the wiser.

A peadophile, I dont have to describe the scenario.

A burglar or theif, quickly knock off this post office before I go back in shall I?

Al Bundy... yeah great idea.

Osama Bin Laden, he would love it that he could wonder out, win 7 mil and pass it onto his pals back home.

Get the picture yet?

As for this "disease", sorry, thats the worst do-gooder excuse ive heard yet. Whats the cure? Does it work? How do you know it works.... well I gues we can ask his next victim.... Humans are great at lying, and criminals are the best at it. Of course they want you to think they are sick, it gets them an easier sentance in a nice hospital for a few years with two pencils up their nose and a pair of y-fronts on their head till some holier-than-tho social worker stamps them as "Ok for society" and lets em go. Just ask Maxine Carr.

As someone said, this money should go to his victims as a lesson to him, what its like to have something you care about taken away. In their case, dignity.

 

[Ezteq]

Al Bundy... yeah great idea.
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what al do?? did he finally murder Peg and the kids?

 

[Ezteq]

Just read this off aol, think the womans a mad bugger for marrying him in prison but good sentiment when you think she actually did nothing wrong (just be a daft bat and marry a bloke whos banged up)
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Rapist's Wife May Sue for Winnings
Convicted rapist Iorworth Hoare won £7m on the National Lottery.
-- Prisoners face curbs on prize cash

Irene Hoare, wife of rapist Lottery winner Iorworth Hoare, is considering suing him for a share of the cash, to distribute among his victims.

Mrs Hoare, 55, from Middlesbrough, told The Sun that she did not realise her husband, whom she married in 1993 after she became a prison penpal, was a rapist.

Hoare told his wife he was a bank robber and she married him in a prison chapel, she claims, but the marriage foundered after he was moved to prisons too far away for her to visit him.

She said: "How the hell can a bastard like that be allowed to get his hands on £7 million? The only people who should get it are his victims. I feel so sorry for them.

"I'll try to give any money I get to deserving causes, like the women he attacked and organisations that look after rape victims."

Hoare bought the winning ticket while on day release.

Although Mrs Hoare has not seen her husband for nine years, she could be entitled to a share of the Lotto winnings because she did not get a divorce.

She said that although she had to go to hospital to have her wedding ring sawn off because her joints had swollen, she eventually forgot about her husband and never got round to getting a divorce.

"I feel so stupid that I ever married him. I'd never have tied the knot if I had known all this. Thank God we never had any children," she said.

Mrs Hoare said that if she ever saw Hoare again she would call the police.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Raping people - Winning the lottery. Two different issues/things/occasions. Not related.



But the really stupid thing that irks me is that this load of major bullcrap is considered news and something that peoples awareness should be nudged towards. Who gives a f*ck! Like there isn't bigger, important, more media worthy news out there....jesus...

 

[Ezteq]

steady on seel dont melt your icefloat <gives sugar free lolly pop>