How to stop the misery in rvr

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zharr

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At least a RR3 Group has more chance vs a RR1 team that knows what they do then a RR8 team that knows what it does

I am not very familiar to RvR yet my berzerker is R3L4 and my healer R2L9, but i am as well one of those that are not experiencing RvR as it should be experienced. The fact that Emain is camped 24/7 by those hig RR hibs is not good for lower lvl groups that are trying to encounter other low RR groups

Learning RvR is difficult to learn and enjoy if you encounter a high RR farm squad that just works by the numbers to "process" group with lower RR experienced ppl,

by replying to this post i just wanted to say that for me and many other people that are "trying RvR" ( guildies friends etc) the fun is far away ..
 
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Slegga

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More respons

First I would like to thank the ppl who have posted answers to my thread

Gizor:

If u think I whine then don’t read what I write:) But u didn’t understand, this thread is no whine but a desperate call for ideas to help us normal ppl out of the rvr misery to get a fun, challanging rvr experience.

Zapzap:

You are right, trying to find/make a better matched rvr group (like with both shamans and healers, casters and fighters) will of course help the rvr surviveability. Both this is not always possible,,,when u port to emain, seldom does it stand all those just listed ppl there waiting for you…or that they can come…but of course it will help if it is possible to get it…

mid_Efour:

“casual RvRers will never be able to have as much fun as gank squads.” This is what this thread is about..trying to make/find ways for casual ppl to have more fun…but maybe solutions to this problems lies mostly in Mythic´s hands. But if we can create some nice ideas about this I will mail them our ideas and hope they will listen. It will not help the situation to give up mid_Efour.

Zharr:

Here is another person and his friends that have been suffereing in rvr instead of having some well deserved fun.
 
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old.Psi

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I wonder why SotL still dominated most RvR groups in 8v8 (and also defeated numbers greater than them often) even before RAs were introduced?
 
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mid_Efour

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mid_Efour:

“casual RvRers will never be able to have as much fun as gank squads.” This is what this thread is about..trying to make/find ways for casual ppl to have more fun…but maybe solutions to this problems lies mostly in Mythic´s hands. But if we can create some nice ideas about this I will mail them our ideas and hope they will listen. It will not help the situation to give up mid_Efour.

sorry :( i gave up a long time ago
 
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Krakatau

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Originally posted by Slegga
I have some to say about this topic (elite rvrguilds vs casual players) ...


Of course it must feel nice to be in a rvr elite guild if that is what u want to do, but as it affect the casual players rvr experience it is sad and does not help most people who play daoc to have fun. It is like taking Olympic champions to compete vs normal people, the normal person is doomed to loose and also to feel bad about it.
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OK- Olympics...

1894 June 23 - The International Olympic Committee is officially founded by French aristocrat Pierre de Coubertin and colleagues in Paris.
And what did he say about the Olympic spirit ??

"The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well."

Learn from that- mkay ?
Do the best you can and if that isn't enough - well at least you did your best :p
 
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mid_Efour

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Re: Re: How to stop the misery in rvr

Originally posted by Krakatau
Do the best you can and if that isn't enough - well at least you did your best :p


and u got owned again, quit now save the horror of being owned by invisible greek people.
 
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Brunore

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This thread keeps refering to emain.

Go somewhere else... take a keep... defend a keep... kill a few greys at a border keep to get teh 50's out...

Use your *brain* and improvise...

This isnt dark age of emain
 
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mid_Efour

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same old shit after 18 months, i rest my case]

Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis.
 
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Qte Eth

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new servers being launched, taxes raised,the more and more ppl play,more boxes sold etc..
this game aint so bad u think it is ,and what is more strange even those ppl who say here they dont like the same shit for over a year mostly play and pay :)

so i doubt theyll change anything because years have proven current sistem *mainly* is great
 
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Dunmer

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Originally posted by succi
Get off your arse and make yourself better instead of complaining about it

Completely agree with Succi.
 
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oldtimer

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>RvR system hasnt changed since Beta same old shit over and over

RAs was introduced last summer, not when the game went live in Europe, wasnt they? So a significant change in rvr did happen after beta.

Those that say only skill determines the outcome of a battle, that the effect of RAs are neglible, have you pondered the issue all the way? RR5 is the same as lvl 51 in game terms, so a significant difference in the game exists when you compare players above with those below that level.

Those high RR people that only think their personal skill is on the table in a fight are living in an illusion. Killing RR1 guys are akin to green or blue con killing due to the toons different combat abilities they receive with the flow of rps. The positive circle is working all the way up to RR10 and out. Player skill exists, but is is tainted by game play enhancements to a great extent, both RAs and the lvl 51 benefits, so you will never know how skilled a player is.
 
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Slegga

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yeah yeah respons

Thx again for some feedback though most of what have been said dont give much new, creative ideas on how to make the rvr experience more rewarding and fun for most players (the casual players).

Trying to find a good idea in this forum is like finding a needle in a haystack, but some helpful suggestions have been put forth like trying to get a balanced rvr group, try play better etc.

So for all out there who suffer in rvr....you will keep suffering until Mythic do something...i have mailed them the response from this thread even though most of the response here have been garbage as usual.
 
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bloody

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>RAs was introduced last summer, not when the game went live in Europe, wasnt they? So a significant change in rvr did happen after beta.

Those that say only skill determines the outcome of a battle, that the effect of RAs are neglible, have you pondered the issue all the way? RR5 is the same as lvl 51 in game terms, so a significant difference in the game exists when you compare players above with those below that level.

Those high RR people that only think their personal skill is on the table in a fight are living in an illusion. Killing RR1 guys are akin to green or blue con killing due to the toons different combat abilities they receive with the flow of rps. The positive circle is working all the way up to RR10 and out. Player skill exists, but is is tainted by game play enhancements to a great extent, both RAs and the lvl 51 benefits, so you will never know how skilled a player is.


well RA's do serve to make a slight difference, however it's mostly the player behind the char, and the group setup and if ppl can and will work together.

i have rolled some new chars some times, and they start of as r1L0 and because of experience i still do fine, so skills > RA's but RA's has got a little say
 

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