How to solve the Skald problem

[aveh]

I was just thinking about what we can do to fix the situation of skalds being utter gimps.

GIVE OUR RUNBUFF TO THANES

Thats right. Call it "Lightning Bolts Up The Ass" and stick it in the Stormcalling line. That'd solve the problems of two classes in one swing.

 

[Wij]

Um - so Skalds would still be shit right ?

 

[Cami]

Originally posted by Wij
Um - so Skalds would still be shit right ?

yea, but they'd be happy about getting to stuff things up thanes arses..

 

[Wij]

This thread is misleading at best

 

[ixnay]

I'm confused
Please don't make me a Thane fudge packer :uhoh:

 

[Damon_D]

Nope that would make them SLOW GIMPS..atm they are so call'd FAST GIMPS aka TAXI's... Give them evade 2/3 , auto train parry , and higher weaponskill and /or abla song

 

[Wij]

ANY useful song other than speed. And nerf body resists. We wouldn't mind having zero combat ability if the battlesong line had anything useful in it.

APART FROM TAXI CHANT !!!1

"but you can use your instas to interrupt casters."

Woop-de-doo. A savage can do the same with more range. Why roll a character that can interrupt casters ? Why not roll one that actually kills them ?

 

[Staan]

make the thanes get a bolt wich stun and damage the target like the dworf in warcraft3 and make mjollnir stun AoE also, for 9 sec at last mjollnir lvl (ffs its the mighty hammer of thor! its not like its not gimped hammers) !

also give wild arcana and mcl to thanes then i'm super happy kthxbye.

 

[aveh]

Originally posted by ixnay
I'm confused

Hehheh

Take away runbuff and Skalds will disappear. I'm fairly sure Mythic won't miss us anyway, we're just a bunch of overpowered whingers who spam boards with requests for enhancements when we're not too busy taking down 8 pbaechanter groups at once

 

[Aule Valar]

Originally posted by aveh
Hehheh

Take away runbuff and Skalds will disappear. I'm fairly sure Mythic won't miss us anyway, we're just a bunch of overpowered whingers who spam boards with requests for enhancements when we're not too busy taking down 8 pbaechanter groups at once

as a light warmup before breakfast

 

[Ottar]

> Um - so Skalds would still be shit right ?

So? Is there -any- RvR active skald out there who still aint rolled another class yet? If yes, why?

Go check the "feedback" to Roseanne's last report.

1. No significant changes to Battlesong line in foreseeable future.
2. No changes to skald defence in foreseeable future.
3. No change to Fury of The Gods RA in foreseeable future

They may increase range on DA. They may even go as far as increase range of skald shouts (??).

This class is dead and will very likely remain so.

Ottar

 

[Wij]

Originally posted by Aule Valar
as a light warmup before breakfast

Yes - before we wake up in fact

 

[klavrynd]

thanes really need a decent ra table

 

[Aule Valar]

Originally posted by Ottar
>
So? Is there -any- RvR active skald out there who still aint rolled another class yet? If yes, why?

Ottar

whilst i am aware that i'm a bit gimped, i still find my skald great fun to play, skalds may not me powerful but they are fun, and thats enough for me

 

[ixnay]

I need a crunch corner

 

[Glyph_mid]

Tbh I think thanes are even worse.
They might be better at soloing people or PVE, but noone wants you in group, as you cant offer as many hp as the warrior, and your weaponskill, even buffed, is poor.

Skalds are still wanted, as its almost a must in a group to have speed. Yes, the right term is taxi, but alteast people wants you

 

[aveh]

Originally posted by Ottar
> Um - so Skalds would still be shit right ?

So? Is there -any- RvR active skald out there who still aint rolled another class yet? If yes, why?

Go check the "feedback" to Roseanne's last report.

1. No significant changes to Battlesong line in foreseeable future.
2. No changes to skald defence in foreseeable future.
3. No change to Fury of The Gods RA in foreseeable future

They may increase range on DA. They may even go as far as increase range of skald shouts (??).

This class is dead and will very likely remain so.

Ottar

That's pretty much what I saw in the TL response too. It fks me off incredibly that there are so many clueless Skalds out there who push and push stupid issues like 2x spec points or medium/speccable shield. Until we get a decent TL (no offense to Rosie as seems like a nice person) skalds will go nowhere fast.

 

[Damon_D]

I sooo regret lvl'ing a skald...freaking waste of time

 

[Gizor]

Originally posted by Damon Doombring
I sooo regret lvl'ing a skald...freaking waste of time

1.
(We, got skald too, check sign ) should have just level'd a Aug Healer instead, Aug-Speed(HealerSpeed if you rather would call it that) + Sprint (either End 4+LW1 or just END 5)
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2.
But yeah, Skald is bad damage dealer and speed is ALMOST the only thing Skalds are used for...but remember Skalds are good for interupting support classes (Cleric f.exp)...shout, snare, single target mezz(or interupt with fast weaps. etc)...so skalds are good at Speed + interupt, but sure I totaly agree we need some luving baby into the Battlesong lines, damage table could be done something with but I would rather have something done to the battlesong line, as mentioned above)
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3. Another thing...I see a few post around this and other forums about 'Skald SC templates'...and 99% of the suites doesn't containt Quickness. There are two options why I see people do this 1. Cus I wannabe uber damagedealer!!... (FFS roll Savage then, imo)... 2. Bcz yeah, Skalds use 2h, and its hard to cap resist, hits, stats, skills etc etc without having to use all your precious platinums on MP chain and weap, that are expensive (One of the reasons my Skald doesn't have qui capped, didnt afford much back then..had 400g left when suite was done. And I'm planning to make a new one..if I cba to continue playing after my sub runs out =p)
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Just my opinion...
PS: - Typo =p (wrote it s00 fast baby

 

[old.Isos]

Skalds arent at all bad....

guess you guys havent been hit for 500+ by a skald before? =)

and there is this screnie where Tivok NP skald hits people for like 1000+ damage

 

[Gizor]

Originally posted by old.Isos
Skalds arent at all bad....

guess you guys havent been hit for 500+ by a skald before? =)

and there is this screnie where Tivok NP skald hits people for like 1000+ damage

We are not talking about once in a life time hits are we ? or how good the Skalds melee damage is, the question is about the utility value of a Skald in a group...uc!?!

Some people use a 3rd Healer instead, as mentioned above with Aug-Speed + End...and nice SH'ing (and Mending in general)

 

[Damon_D]

LOL 500 dmg hit's... I wish

 

[aveh]

Originally posted by old.Isos
Skalds arent at all bad....

guess you guys havent been hit for 500+ by a skald before? =)

and there is this screnie where Tivok NP skald hits people for like 1000+ damage

Theres some poor elf stealther (Jawah or summat) who got whacked for 557 and then 409 by me outside Svasud yesterday. I was fully buffed, he wasn't, he was running away, and was blue-con (I think, or that's the colour he went when he died).

But TBH, Im so sick of hearing about and seeing the "Tivook Screen of Bull****" everytime a Skald damage argument starts running.

1) Tivook (/Tivok? I keep forgetting which one it is) is a Troll Skald. Uber strength
2) Most of his hits were using "Ragnarok" or "Northern Lights". Two high-damage positionals.
3) See that Agmundrs Foe Slayer he's carrying there? He won't be able to take another swing with it until sometime next week.
4) That 1000+ swing was done on a green-con sitting healer if im not mistaken. I heard an admission as such from a NP "friend of his".
5) Mid/Exc is the current owner of three shiny str relics. Take 20% off all his hits and see how good they look then. I believe even this point is made in the screenshot.

The thing with this guy is that he's ultimately tuned to frontload damage. He's in an uber guild (NP) and probably doesnt go anywhere with less than 350 Str. That's really nice, and now he can mix with the mid-range warriors in terms of damage. He can whack a ****load of shieldless casters, blue-con stealthers, and green-con tanks and make a nice collage of it all, but its not really going to be any use for the debate.

Also, in that screenie, how many times do you see captures of the uber damage that his DD-shouts have done? That's coz they always do sucky damage, when they're not busy being resisted.

BTW, I've got screenies of me landing Havoc (front-pos, good dmg) on an Infi for 150, and then getting hit back for 300+100 and such? Should I make a large screenie of all those hits too?

 

[scarffs]

Indeed, one shouldnt base the skald argument on one 'probably' uber skald with Purple buffs, Agmundr's Foe Slayer, no quickness, Backpositional on a sitting green or blue con hitting for insane damage.

A paladin hit my shaman fully buffed lvl 50, rr4, all stats and resists capped for 795 with a one-handed sword. Yet everyone says paladins have no damage output. I guess i met a lucky, uber paladin.

The point ? Same as aveh's.

 

[Pi0z]

I still love my skald despite the obvious shortcomings and I haven't levelled up another 50 because I'm quite happy acting as a support class and mild damage dealer/deathspam stealer. The RPs may not be flooding in (I spend more time as a purple midgardian throwrug than an active combatant) but I'm still having fun which is the whole point of playing the game in the first place.

A tweak to the battlesongs line would be great, however. Or maybe the skald RA table could be tweaked to reduce the point cost of IP? I'm almost RR3 and am saving up for IP (which would help a little bit, but would probably just be postponing the inevitable), which is a pain because I have 11 skill points sitting there burning a hole in my pockets which could be spent on something positive/passive like Aug Dex2/MoP2. Even after I get IP, I have to save up again for Purge. :/

Personal mini-gripe aside, I'll continue to play my skald regardless of how disadvantaged she is.

 

[Cyradix]

A lightning bolt up my ass?
<makes mental note never to group with Aveh>

 

[taobitzz]

:bazbeer:

Gifv skalds Ability to tame Dragon!!!

 

[scarffs]

Come on cyradirx, thats not what you really think.

You love lightning from behind.

 

[old.Isos]

Nope not once in a lifetime hit..

and maybe that your problem. yournot a troll?

and there is another screenie with alot of copied hits from other ss,not sure if the str relic he had on made any difference..........
does it?