How to get a RVR group

Mortious

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I was wondering as a casual player how im ment to get a RVR group. Am i missing somthing. I have 2 level 50 players with decent templates My animist has had a few tells asking to join a rvr group but i dont want to play him anymore. My Vampiir seems unable to get a rvr group. I play in a guild that does not hold regular RVR groups so im unable to get a group that way. How else is somone ment to get invited into a RVR group. I hang around DL for ages and now and again say im LFG but that never achieves anything. I dont have any high level friends outside of my guild and im feeling pretty sick of never achieving a rvr group.

Any suggestions ?
 

WullieTheRed

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go solo or craft up yer tailoring waiting for a group at DL. Heh, think I count the amount of fgs I been in on one hand, and thats been like 3 years playing!
 

Mortious

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Its got to the stage where I havnt bothered to rvr. Running alone I keep getting acusations of leeching other peoples kills even when I hit first. And waiting in DL while so many groups form around me gets frustrating. Is there nothing I can do ?
 

Agrigo

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I tried to read taht but it hurt my eyes :(
on another note if your note a ml10 rr7+ BM , Druid or Bard there is very little chance of a group , is number 1 reason i made a shade ..... that and my need to griefplay :)
 

Mastade

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Being a player that most of the regular peeps dont know makes it harder for you to get invites, especially when you aren't in a guild that rvrs much. If you dont play a wanted char, its also harder for you to get invites. If you play at primetime it's also tougher to get grps cuz there will most likely be more players of your class/classtype also looking for grp. The best shot you will get at getting grps is starting them on your own and preferable at non-primetime. Start asking ppl at DL and perhaps even those outside DL to join your grp. Dont give up because a few says no and comes up with all sorts of idiotic excuses like:" darn, i have to go afk cuz my dog is humping the cat, be back in an hour" - A trick i used in the old days was to pm 4-5 guys of the same class, and ask if they were looking for grp(knowing that almost all of em was gonna turn me down for various reasons).
 

Tallen

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Mastade said:
Being a player that most of the regular peeps dont know makes it harder for you to get invites

It works in your favour sometimes also :)

Answer is easy really, make a group. Grab whoever is sat there lfg and run with it, who cares if it's 3 bards, 4 VW's and a vamp, doesn't matter.

The best pick-up groups are the ones where no one thinks you will actually kill anything, then it's a nice surprise when you do :)
 

Kaun_IA

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Tallen said:
It works in your favour sometimes also :)

Answer is easy really, make a group. Grab whoever is sat there lfg and run with it, who cares if it's 3 bards, 4 VW's and a vamp, doesn't matter.

The best pick-up groups are the ones where no one thinks you will actually kill anything, then it's a nice surprise when you do :)

yep...thats the most fun you can get... running whit a non optomized grp and acctually killing something (dont mean solos...that suxx ass)
 

Mortious

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Its all a bit problematic. No one wants to group with a low RR or somone unknown. Without grouping you cant gain RR or become known so your stuck. Maybe i shud just quit leveling unwanted chars and make a stealther ?
 

Gear

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If you're talking about the vamp I can give you a couple of reasons. I do believe that vamps can be amazing in FGs, however that class is very hard to play, if you don't know your toys my group is better off with a NS. I do play a vamp, and I'll be sincere to you, I don't invite vamps when I bard, not unless I know how they play and how they're speced.

Of course that creates a kind of catch-22 situation, where you have to get known in order to get a group, and at the same time the question is how will you achieve that without getting a chance? This is where Mastade's advice kicks in. Off peak, start your groups blah blah blah.

Daoc is not rocket science, it is a very easy game in fact, it's linear, nothing out of the ordinary can happen, it's pure mathematics. The social aspect of it again is not that difficult to manage. Most people in the game are starving to find someone to lead them. By this I mean that most people play to relax, not to make decisions or frustrate themselves, so getting some innitiative will definitelly pay off.

When MLs were being done I couldn't find a group for my ranger to do the group steps. So I started raiding. ML 10 on ranger and 4 more toons atm.

Just see it as a game. Hope that helps :)

edit: don't PM on people (at least me) when you see them not being at DL, you wont get a reply (not from me at least) and it's stupid as they might be in the middle of a fight. I actually turn of PM views when I rvr.
 

Dallas

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Activity, activity and more activity, spamming lfg in broad will not score you a good grp, being nice, socialize around abit in dl when people buff up, try starting grps up, try merging small grps, etc will tho, people that try, but fail, is still miles better than people that do not try..

If people have to choose between 2 players, one they never heard about, and one theyve seen around, or chatted to, even tho he might be in a guild thats not rvr oriented, i know id pick the guy that trys to form grps, is friendly etc :)
 

MaCaBr3

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I'm not the kind of guy who starts LFG, because either I'm just fucking arround with 2 or 3 guys, or solo most of the time. But lately I've been getting invites to nice random group out of the blue.

Must be because either, someone in the group knows me or people are starting to know u in rvr.

Also, dissagreeing with something on /as makes u evil. So don't do it. :cheers:
 

Kenshiro

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MaCaBr3 said:
" Tu regardes à l'intérieur de toi et tu deviens aware of your own body! " J.C. VanDamme

tiens ! van waar zoud ge dat emmen...
 

Ronso

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Another suggestion is to put ure characters names in your signature so people can see who you are and might get to know you through the forums leading to groups ingame ..

If mastade wasnt a forum hero he wouldnt get groups :touch:
 

Ging

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Same thing in all realms, its really hard work at the start but u need perseverance. No one is going to offer anything to you on a plate. As stated above, if you want a group make one yourself even if its not balanced, go out and have some fun, get yourself seen in the field. You will find over time that you will make friends with people who are doing the same thing and you will start getting groups more and more often. like all things this will take time and will only work if YOU put the effort in.

There is nothing stopping you from posting a thread on this forum saying your on at such a time and would like to form a group for "xxxxx" purpose. poeple can sign up and meet u at "xxxxx" spot etc. Same as sorting ML groups for group steps.

Its all in how you advertise what you want to do. Market yourself and have some fun and you will find people you have had fun with before PM you about making a group and slowly but surely you will be running out and having fun and doing what you want in this game.

Build an RvR reputation for fun and people will be attracted to it. Listen to advice from more experience players, ingnore all the pricks (you will meet them from time to time) and enjoy yourself.

GL out there and hopefully ill be feeding you soem RP's in no time :)

One of the most fun nights ive ever had was when i intentionally made a "gimped" group, most were under lvl 50 and in rog armour and no ML's, we got a rr10 mincer in the group who was fully toa'ed so we made him use rog weaps and run naked. Was loads of fun and spent about 3 hours laughing so hard with our 1 lvl 45 boofbot as only healer :)
 

Brack

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Ronso said:
Another suggestion is to put ure characters names in your signature so people can see who you are and might get to know you through the forums leading to groups ingame ..

If mastade wasnt a forum hero he wouldnt get groups :touch:

i doubt having ur chars on ur forum sig will make much of a difference unless u annoy someone on FH :p
 

Ronso

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Brack said:
i doubt having ur chars on ur forum sig will make much of a difference unless u annoy someone on FH :p

stop annoying me :(
 

Anarawan

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Even if you are not in FG you can still get RP's.
Just dont go where the big fight's are.

Frontiers are huge and there are lot of action if you know where to find them.

Just do like Horner and go kill the xper's/grey cons, they give rp's too.

If u do it regularly you'll get RP's and your name will be seen in the deathspam's and at some point u get some invites.
 

Heta

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one thing is sure, you wont get groups by having your char in sig on FH. All that may accomplish is you not getting groups if you are a retard :p
 

klasa

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Couldn't agree more to the above. I thought that DL was the place to get groups and got very diassapointed. Then I started running in smaller groups 2-4 players and have had alot of fun and RP's are often even better than in a random PUG.

You have to avoid the optimised 8v8 areas (it's so fun that these guys flame stealther leaching their fights cause it's all about the fun 8v8 balanced action when they never hesitate to stomp over a group of 2 players) because the will turn you in to dust.

But there are some areas in Alb / Mid / Hib where you usally meet smaller groups.

This is how you build your reputation and get recognised and eventually get in to bigger groups. The question is if you wan't them after having fun with like minded people in small group set up's.

Leave Druim Liegen and just go out in the frontier and have a luagh. If you see any of my alts listed below, ask me for a group and let's see if we can something sorted out.
 

Eeben

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If you want rps just solo in the zerg :p made over 20k on my 48 sorc yesterday just by sticking to the zerg an nuke on what i could an you know what? it was fun :D
 

Ballard

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Eeben said:
... sticking to the zerg an nuke on what i could an you know what? it was fun :D

You really should join GOL... oh I see you already have :cheers:
 

Alexandrinus

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ok the best way to get groups is make your own,most people dont do this because this is work, hard work to get a group together wich has speed,cc,enough healing and killing power(perfect group).
This ofc means that you have to work, while other spam nonsens, you have the work of getting the peeps together and hold them.
If you dont get a perfect setup you should ajust your moves to the peeps you get,means you get some rangers or long range caster and no speed go and take a tower...... .

If you want that the people wich you invited plays tomorrow also with you,you should always care not to f....ck up a group and lead them well,tell them what to do, where to go .

And maybe you will get an invite to one of the rvr groups (all can happen), aske what's your part in the group, learn how to make macro's,aske if you need to get siege,learn to build up siege.......dont get lost when they move,stick up fast play concentrated.....play so good that they will remember you next time when you aske.
 

Forf

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Mortious said:
I was wondering as a casual player how im ment to get a RVR group. Am i missing somthing. I have 2 level 50 players with decent templates My animist has had a few tells asking to join a rvr group but i dont want to play him anymore. My Vampiir seems unable to get a rvr group. I play in a guild that does not hold regular RVR groups so im unable to get a group that way. How else is somone ment to get invited into a RVR group. I hang around DL for ages and now and again say im LFG but that never achieves anything. I dont have any high level friends outside of my guild and im feeling pretty sick of never achieving a rvr group.

Any suggestions ?

1. Make fluffy bunneh spam.
Dosnt work
2. Stick on a group til they give in
Still dosnt work
3. Blame mythic with its a bug.
Still dosnt work....

But seriously tho :>
Vamps arent the most popular in groups, tho they can pack abit of a punch.
Best way to be allmost guaranteed for a group would be rolling a Bard/Drood though :>
 

Avrot

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Forf said:
But seriously tho :>
Vamps arent the most popular in groups, tho they can pack abit of a punch.
Best way to be allmost guaranteed for a group would be rolling a Bard/Drood though :>

God Bless game creators for giving a new class a rr5 ablitity for grping when hib mentalitity is to keep them solo lol. I personally think they should change that rr5 skill to maybe an mbl charge (Mystic Blood Lore) or maybe give vamps the sorc skill but for magic resistance instead (only kidding be funny to see the enemy casters posts on been pwned that way).

I find my vamp a nice run with self speed and sometimes a friend from guild with his bard, just little bit of fun. We never go to the gank area's though ur just a snack for the leet. I find once ive attended a few realm raids a few times you tend to get future invites later, so long as your not a noob or nasty to the grp.

Prior to my break I went on a few realm raids, one was when my vamp was lvl 44 and got into a grp of 50's (invited I didnt ask) and it was the best laugh I had in rvr ever. We where defending an enemy keep, I even took the keep over at one point for Ebony Hand to try and lvl it. I ended up the mobile stealth node at the time and druid protection. Insodently If any of you guys rember Boraness in that grp thanx alot guys was the best rvr night I ever had, really nice grp of guys in that random grp.

Anyway as I was saying, these grps are formed to make the raid work, so 99% of all chars will be invited to some form of a grp to help achive the bigger goal, the raid leader normally will not push on in the raid until he can see all have grps. Get into a few of them and it will help speed up your invites in future.
 

Rauno

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find a random bard in dl and go duo whit him before prime-time, can make more rps then most groups do in a prime-time and is more fun and challegning.
 

Mirt

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Vamps have a couple of problems as far as random invites go:

1) They're the easiest class to level in hib - there's lots of vamps and unfortunately people will assume a vamp they don't know is a <insert favorite derogatory term for a lesser skilled realm mate>.

2) Most vamps are SM/VE split spec, which is decent for solo play but rather low DPS for 8v8. I'd prefer VE for DPS or DEM for interrupts (hi der vinters).

3) BMs have better styles utility wise (side stun, rear snare), they're also much less squishy (RF vs leather, TW & rr5) vs a melee assist train. Mind you full dem vamps arn't particularly squishy either, if their resist buffs are up.

Despite that it's nice to claw healers down through BG, and to abuse charge and banelord.
 

liloe

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good clothing =)) Don't look like a RoGmeister =))

Be friendly and get to know people and well, at the beginning there's always that kind of little luck to have the right class at the right moment =)

Btw, I don't see what's wrong with putting your chars in the FH sig? =)

But tbh, I think Mastade gets groups cause of his oldschool /lastname (MakeBabiesNotZergs), c'mon Mastade, give it back plz /beg =))
 

ruw

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Most people still have doubts about inviting Vamps if they don't know the person playing... Earning reputation takes hard work and dedication to your char. Easiest option to get rvr grps, is to roll a druid tbh :)

GL :)
 

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