Homechoice ADSL info please

[old.[TDO]Ve7]

http://www.homechoice.co.uk

Hi!

Do you guys know any info at all about Homechoice, and in particular for gaming?

Even if you heard something off someone off someone in pub, please post it, cos it is so new info is like hen's teeth.

Cheers,

 

[Embattle]

Its crap

 

[Ono]

Agreed

 

[Ono]

How's the job hunting Emb mate?

 

[Embattle]

Well they relocated me to PCWORLD, currently of ill with flu though

 

[Ono]

PC World is fine.

Not games related though

Hope they gave yer a big pay rise.

 

[old.TUG]

I iz applying for a PC Technician job @ PC World, shud be fun if I get it, cuz I actually know wot I am doing

 

[old.RedNob]

I'm on ADSL through BTOPENWORLD. This is what I know...

You must be WITHIN 3.4 km of a main exchange...

There are teething problems but I get an average 40 ping

...and its 150 quid installation, 40 squid a month...

register as a business for preferential treatment...

That's all... but hey... it's sommit!

 

[Embattle]

TUG your a cowgirl

RED getting ADSL through homechoice is a cheap and very crap way to get it.

 

[old.[TDO]Ve7]

Originally posted by Embattle
Its crap

Thanks for replys guys.

But how exactly? Difficulty in connecting, staying connected, tech support (I already know this is supposed to be crap!), ping, d/l speed?

I don't even mind if it doesn't ping so good, £20 for 24/7 access/ month is a good rate anyway. Beats 4p/min daytime rate I have to pay now in a great situation as an ex C&W ntl customer. I was just wondering if I should start getting excited about the ping or not.

Cheers,

 

[luap]

Homechoice aDSL will be crap because:

1. It's not their core business.
2. 115k is peanuts on DSL
3. DSL is ruled by BT. (Read crap)
4. The contention ratio for the internet bit of the HC Dsl will be huge.

 

[old.[TDO]Ve7]

Yeah but BT: £150 + £40/m

HC: £40+£20/m

I don't care about d/l speed, I am an old school internet user (my old uni was JANET for the South of England and when I used the net for the first time at somebody's house as opposed to uni I wondered why it was so slow. Lol, If I had known in 4 years time I would still be on 56k I would have moved to the US right then ) and basically the reason I am stating all this is that I am all pronned out so I don't care about d/l speed any more

I know some people don't care about the money but for me unfortunately at this time it is a critical difference.

Cheers though guys. One of my mates in W London has it and I told him to do a DOS ping to http://www.demon.net in the daytime and he got 70. I could live with that

Thanks again.

 

[old.nukleus]

No point ADSL gaming

The networks aren't reliable enough, there is no way of finding out about the sort of wiring hooked up to your local exchange, and the modems are rent only :-< personaly, I'd wait about three years (I kid you, no) unitl they figure out how to do simultainious sattelite upload/ download. And for 5 meg, that they say'll go up to about a gig, I think its worth the wait.
If you are rolling in it, and you live in an inner city area, I'd recommend an OC12 line. okay, so its a grand a month, but I've heard stories of these things serving an entire office block, and still being able to pump out video conferencing at 24 fps.

 

[Mr_Horus]

Its 115k cos if you read the small print, your PC connects to the HC set top box via a serial port lol

 

[Embattle]

Sats are major crap for gaming as well..since the latency is very high.

I'm sure OC-12 is more than a grand a month.

 

[Perplex]

Re: No point ADSL gaming

Originally posted by nukleus
If you are rolling in it, and you live in an inner city area, I'd recommend an OC12 line. okay, so its a grand a month, but I've heard stories of these things serving an entire office block, and still being able to pump out video conferencing at 24 fps.

Errrrrm...you're a twat. OC12 is 644MBps connection. That could service half of the UK, let alone an office block. And it would also cost a tad over 1000 a month, try closer to 150,000 a month just for rental.

It's so true what they say...a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing

 

[Perplex]

(btw Nukleus...William Gibson owns hard Just finished Neuromancer, and it was amazing. Gonna go buy Virtual Light and The Difference Engine today. Cyberpunk owns)

 

[old.[TDO]Ve7]

Just a FYI post

Okay so I got it... and it rocks. 9k/s on Napster, 70 ping to demon and to be honest, I am blown away by the TV (which I thought Iwouldn't use). It has music videos on demand (yeah yeah I know, The Box) but you can ff, rew and pause the stuff.

Only a couple of points against though, install was a bit dodgy (i.e I knew more than the engineer :\ and I don;t exactly know a lot) and the TV is not yet Nicam - but they are working on it apparently.

I might be singing a different tune come my first problems (which I expect won't be long) but for now I give it an A+.

 

[old.[TDO]Ve7]

And another FYI

From PC Zone this month:

T1 1.5Mbs, £80,000 / annum

E-1 2Mbs, 200k/s. £20,000/ annum

T-3 45Mbs. £16,000/ month

OC48 2.5Gbs (<------ I could transfer my entire hard drives in about 30sec.. if my PC could handle it!)

 

[Wij]

T3 for me then. I'll be happy with that. Who do I ring up ?

 

[old.[TDO]Ve7]

Meet me next to Tower Bridge and bring a cheque. I'll throw in the bridge as well

 

[Perplex]

Re: And another FYI

Originally posted by [TDO]Ve7
From PC Zone this month:

T1 1.5Mbs, £80,000 / annum

E-1 2Mbs, 200k/s. £20,000/ annum

T-3 45Mbs. £16,000/ month

OC48 2.5Gbs (<------ I could transfer my entire hard drives in about 30sec.. if my PC could handle it!)

Try OC768 at a nice 10 Tbps...that's 10 trillion bits per second folks. You can buy it from Enkido...in germany :/

 

[Wij]

Didn't realise there was that many bits in the world to move about

 

[old.Anatoly]

So does that inlcude installation or is that extra?
Also is that 1.5M bits or bytes for the T1?

now all I need is to find 170 people who live near me, and I'll sell em a connection for 40/month, just connect them to a machine in my house through a LAN and Ill be have a top connection and make a bit of money
Sounds like a plan,

 

[old.[TDO]Ve7]

Admit it! You did Red Hot Ant didn't you? At least, your business plan is about as detailed

 

[luap]

Re: And another FYI

Originally posted by [TDO]Ve7
From PC Zone this month:

T1 1.5Mbs, £80,000 / annum

E-1 2Mbs, 200k/s. £20,000/ annum

T-3 45Mbs. £16,000/ month

OC48 2.5Gbs (<------ I could transfer my entire hard drives in about 30sec.. if my PC could handle it!)

Errrr, UUnet Tier 1 T1 Lease line is £25k / annum

 

[Wij]

Originally posted by [TDO]Ve7
Admit it! You did Red Hot Ant didn't you? At least, your business plan is about as detailed