Hollywood going too far?

[Embattle]

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/business/2764054.htm

Seems they want more but Intel is fighting our corner

 

[Wij]

Yay Intel

Even if it is solely in their interests

 

[*Exor*]

Intel si teh pro-sessor of teh peeple!!!11

AMD Suxs ASS!!!1

 

[Scouse]

Have a look for CPRM on the Register and see what they have to say.

Content Protection for Recordable Media - means that you'll have to own a licence for everything just to copy from one of your hard drives for another, whether it's legit. or not.

 

[Munkey-]

and they'll keep tabs on that how?

edit: fucking bastards. thats why i buy all my movies on cheap 2 quid VCD's. *pats his pile of vcd's*

 

[Wij]

Yeah, I know about CPRM. HD makers aren't that dumb tho. They're gonna realise that HDs that can easily be hacked to forget CPRM (ala region cracking) will sell better.

Anyway, CPRM has been put on the back burner for now...

 

[Sar]

Anything is hackable, bypassable or just plain breakable. No matter what they come up with someone somewhere will have it beaten inside of a week.

Yay for nerds

And Yay for Intel

 

[xane]

What is so daft is that copyrights were put in place to prevent people from making money out of someone else's innovation.

With music sharing for example, (a) no-one is making money from copying, and (b) the people trying to restrict it are not the original innovators (unless you include a small group of bands).

The music industry is blatently using copyright law to squeeze more money out of the consumer, as if they were not already ripping off everyone anyway (including the artists). As the article points out, Intel is one company that will basically profit from increased usage of copying technology, its a battle of money grabbers.

CPRM is unenforceable and a stillborn idea, like region codes for DVDs, it'll last six months and everyone will have form of software or firmware solution to avoid it.

 

[Wij]

And thank God.

Last thing I want my PC to turn into is a pay-per-view movie thing with AIM tagged on

 

[Munkey-]

thats true. according to some company or other (virgin records i believe) the reason that CD's cost so much in shops is because we're paying for so called "extra tracks" and some of it is skimmed off to support the crap bands who cant sell a single CD!!!

 

[Scouse]

Anything is hackable, bypassable or just plain breakable. No matter what they come up with someone somewhere will have it beaten inside of a week

I think you're missing the point old chap.

The fact of the matter is - even if WE can do this - the average PC-owning monkey out there is ill-equipped and too brain-cell deficient to do this.

If CPRM does make it shady way in (which isn't as unlikely as you think - it may very well still sneak in by the back-door) the vast majority of MP3-sharing muppets out there simply won't be able to beat it.

A specialist few (gamers and hacker geeks) does NOT make for a rich environment for peer-to-peer file sharing.

Lets face it - it'll go from like being in a mp3 supermarket to a oldies-but-goldies corner-shop.



Grrrr ('n stuff).....

 

[Stazbumpa]

Speaking of Hollywood, Mel Gibson appears to have re-written history yet again with his Vietnam film.

He seems to be going for a record of sorts.

 

[Wij]

COMING SOON TO A MOVIE THEATRE NEAR YOU !

FLAG OF GREEN

The true story of how in the 1980s the English Government led by King Henry VIII decided to persecute a group of Irish Potato Farmers called the IRA during a little holiday they had in England with their pet leprechaun called Semtex.

Starring:

MEL GIBSON: As the heroic young hero Aardel O' Blarney a young (mid-twenties, not older) pacifist who slaughters 300 English torture-mongers with a potato peeler after they rape and murder his land and pride.

SOME GINGER BIRD: Who gets lusted after by the English homosexuals and then killed purely due to the insane desires of the English aristocracy to advance the plot.

SOME FAMOUS SCOTTISH ACTOR: Portraying an English nob.

etc...

 

[Stazbumpa]

lol yeah, did anyone see that pile of shit about the Bloody Sunday thing?

 

[Scouse]

Don't get me started.

Yanks are so fucking dumb they're lucky if they hit the floor when they fall over.

 

[Sar]

Originally posted by Scouse
I think you're missing the point old chap.

The fact of the matter is - even if WE can do this - the average PC-owning monkey out there is ill-equipped and too brain-cell deficient to do this. If CPRM does make it shady way in (which isn't as unlikely as you think - it may very well still sneak in by the back-door) the vast majority of MP3-sharing muppets out there simply won't be able to beat it.

A specialist few (gamers and hacker geeks) does NOT make for a rich environment for peer-to-peer file sharing. Lets face it - it'll go from like being in a mp3 supermarket to a oldies-but-goldies corner-shop.



Grrrr ('n stuff).....

/slaps Scouse about the head a bit with a very large tyre iron.

I think you're missing the point tbh: "the average PC-owning monkey out there" is not the person/people that CPRM is aimed at. It's aimed at the technically proficient PC user who downloads warez, mp3 albums by the truckload, episodes of TV series, DivX films etc. "the average PC-owning monkey out there" hasn't a clue how to do this at all, so CPRM will have precisely fuck all effect on their PC usage.

It sneaking in by the back way is impossible, because someone will find out about it, or it will be leaked within a few weeks, and everyone will know about it. Everyone that cares that is. A few weeks later some form of workaround or crack or just plain boycott of the product enforcing this scheme will arise.

In short: It'll never work cos it'll be known about quickly, and therefore be too easy to break/crack/remove.

 

[Wij]

Laff at my joke !

 

[xane]

Even if Scouse's point was valid, compare that to popular "hacks" such as mod-chipping Playstations, region-free DVDs and un-passworded mobile phones. If there is a demand for the service to be sure someone will find a quick an easy way to do it.

 

[Wij]

Originally posted by Wij
COMING SOON TO A MOVIE THEATRE NEAR YOU !

FLAG OF GREEN

The true story of how in the 1980s the English Government led by King Henry VIII decided to persecute a group of Irish Potato Farmers called the IRA during a little holiday they had in England with their pet leprechaun called Semtex.

Starring:

MEL GIBSON: As the heroic young hero Aardel O' Blarney a young (mid-twenties, not older) pacifist who slaughters 300 English torture-mongers with a potato peeler after they rape and murder his land and pride.

SOME GINGER BIRD: Who gets lusted after by the English homosexuals and then killed purely due to the insane desires of the English aristocracy to advance the plot.

SOME FAMOUS SCOTTISH ACTOR: Portraying an English nob.

etc...

I wholeheartedly agree with the statement/opinion expressed in the post before this one.

oops - did i press quote ?

 

[Scouse]

I still say my point is valid.

How many of the pc-illiterate muppets in your family, on first buying a PC went straight to Napster.

When Napster went tits up - they went for morpheus or summat......

They're *all* at it! Fuckwitt or not!

 

[Sar]

No, they're not, much as you'd like to think.

If I mentioned Napster to my dad, or my sister (both PC users, and not technically proficient like me) they'd wonder if I had a Huggies fetish or something.

 

[xane]

nappy n00b - Pamperz 0wnz j00 !

 

[raw.]

As already said above, it will only work for the simple user but gamers/geeks etc will be ok

PS2s now come chipped on request amongst various other additions to them, a guy round the corner i know has one that chipped modified etc its barely recogniseable as a ps2, fuck knows what half of it does.

 

[Summo]

I think Wij's post is funny.

 

[Wij]

I love Summo and want to bear his children !

 

[Furr]

I love Summo and want to bear his children !

:uhoh:


PS: AMD RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

(See how I cleverly use the incorrect spelling of rules and elongate the end of the word to make a point, clever eh..)

 

[(Shovel)]

This disgusts me.

The supposedly evil cycle goes as follows:

Man Makes Music. Sells It. Makes an honest living. Man steals music. Price goes up to subsidise.

Instead however, we add the all important "Greed" word at every available oppotunity. The result, no one can sell a CD for £16.

The problem is that people want control. Control = Money. Microsoft have demonstrated this rather nicely, and for that matter Intel.
I'm actually faced with having to become a full time pirate myself.

With new copy protected CDs coming out that wont play on a computer, I shall have no choice but to download them as my computer IS my CD player.

It's a totally contrary and greedy where nobody will admit they can make more money by charging less and where they will continue to manipulate the individual.

I look forward to the day (and it's coming) when artists can set up shop on their own by their website to sell records. All it needs is the delopment of widely available medium that people would actually listen to music over. And P2P file sharing isn't it.
It needs a spark, at which point the record companies become, as I believe Frenchman once said, "fucked", cause people can set up before they get a deal, and then find they dont need a deal.
I long for the day.

 

[.cage]

Originally posted by FuROf knight


:uhoh:


PS: AMD RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

(See how I cleverly use the incorrect spelling of rules and elongate the end of the word to make a point, clever eh..)

stop trying to sound even remotely intelligent.

 

[Sar]

Originally posted by Wij
I love Summo and want to bear his children !

Thank god you didn't spell bear the other way...

:uhoh:

 

[Wij]

Sar, comment on my brilliant post or I will persue this topic further !