High Priest Akil and Tartaros Gift

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Yesterday me and a mentalist pulled the high priest, i stood at the bottom of the hill so sallys woodnt spawm while menta and pet beat down the priest, when the priest was at 5% health i ran up and nuked him down to finish him.
in the BG was me, menta and BB (who was healing menta pet) but i didnt get credit for the kill after priest died...anyone know why that is? im sure it is a BG encounter....
 
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Think of it from the High-Preists point of view, if you'd been happily minding your own business and suddenly sombody runs up to you and starts nuking you wouldn't be up for giving them credit either ;)
 
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May have done, but i thought that so long as i damaged it and was in BG...
 
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Drevner said:
May have done, but i thought that so long as i damaged it and was in BG...
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Pet kill = No credit, you'll have to try again.
 
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Dedaith said:
Pet kill = No credit, you'll have to try again.
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wrong, have seen theurg pets get last blow and still got credit.
 
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Farek said:
wrong, have seen theurg pets get last blow and still got credit.
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From what I've seen, pet kill = no BG credit, but it's fine for individuals/groups.
 
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Pin said:
From what I've seen, pet kill = no BG credit, but it's fine for individuals/groups.
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The only situation in which a pet kill is certain not to give BG credit, in my experience, is if the owner of the pet is dead when the mob is killed. Under any other circumstances, you can get BG credit or not for a pet kill based on the whims of fate, lag, luck, or a butterfly flapping it's wings on the other side of the world...

My Theurgist's Earthlords have struck the final blow on a number of BG encounters, and I've never had any issues with people not getting credit.

Tanks using bleed styles seem to have similar issues... I've been in BG's where a bleed has got the kill and nobody got credit, and others where everybody did get the credit for a bleed kill.

Generally it's best to err on the side of caution and call off the pets when the monster is at about 5% health, though. ;)

The issue in this case could be, however, to do with how the encounter was being done. If the pet itself is not considered part of the BG, and is doing the majority of the damage, it may be that it was considered that it was the pet and not the BG that completed the encounter. The pet's group, of course, would still get credit, but the rest of the BG would probably not.
 
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Draco died from bleed when we did ml 10, and I've seen pets get last blow on BG encounters aswell.
 
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aslong as theu is alive when mob dies there shouldent be a problem...
 
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What Judas said, if theurg is alive, it gives credit.

Bleed doesnt tho.
 
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We had the same problem when we did Tartaro's the first time (with 2 PBAE-heavy FGs, mind you, since the salamanders insisted on spawning). We killed him all right, but no one got credit, nor did the staff drop. We had no pets going. I talked to GOA about it, and they say there are no known issues with the encounter but that they would look into it (and naturally they were unable to reward credit ;)).
 
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Some encounters are programed not to give credit with pet kills, and this means a summoned/charmed pet, since theurgist pets are kinda like wierd DD's
But it's better to let players get the kill, just to be safe :fluffle:
 
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there has been a somekind of bug with maddening scalars users so that others (than the one who is wearing'em) won't get the credit from some encounters. will be fixed in 1.68 afaik.
 
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i did tartaros lots of times cause i was farming torches...

all the times i did it with fop bard or fop druid me (chanter) and druid with focus etc. no spells no anything only focus till he is dead.


sometimes we did a bg cause peeps wanted the encounter etc. well it worked just fine its a bg encounter etc.

this version only needs 2 peeps though :p
 
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did the people in the battlegroup manage to get the killing blow to high priest akil?
did they even damage him at all?
how far away from the platform were they when you pulled him?
 
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Drevner said:
Yesterday me and a mentalist pulled the high priest, i stood at the bottom of the hill so sallys woodnt spawm while menta and pet beat down the priest, when the priest was at 5% health i ran up and nuked him down to finish him.
in the BG was me, menta and BB (who was healing menta pet) but i didnt get credit for the kill after priest died...anyone know why that is? im sure it is a BG encounter....
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The bottom line is if a pet lands the killing blow then your at the mercy of the dev that wrote the encounter OR you just have shitty luck like my two flat tyres today :(

I have seen times where:

Pet landed killing blow and BG got credit
Pet landed killing blow and only Pet group got credit
Pet landed killing blow and nobody got credit

Dunno about bleeds cant say I have notice them being an issue.

So there ya have it, there is prolly variations on the above but thats what Ive seen.

Now if I could just get credit for the 9 times I've killed SoK I'll be happy...... grrr
 
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Drevner said:
did the people in the battlegroup manage to get the killing blow to high priest akil?
did they even damage him at all?
how far away from the platform were they when you pulled him?
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pet killed akil.
they didnt damaged him at all.
they were abit back from me.

the priest got focus pulled from start till the end. he died from focus.
 
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Drevner said:
Yesterday me and a mentalist pulled the high priest, i stood at the bottom of the hill so sallys woodnt spawm while menta and pet beat down the priest, when the priest was at 5% health i ran up and nuked him down to finish him.
in the BG was me, menta and BB (who was healing menta pet) but i didnt get credit for the kill after priest died...anyone know why that is? im sure it is a BG encounter....
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hehe...

Petpulling is nerfed

or isn't it?

If not :puke:
 
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Phule_Gubben said:
hehe...

Petpulling is nerfed

or isn't it?

If not :puke:
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There's a difference between focus pulling and using a normal pet to kill a mob. However, both methods are possible for the High Priest, as well as a few other encounters.
 
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i did this encounter again last friday and got credit. we did it exactly the same as before except this time their were more people in the battlegroup (those in BG were grouped) and we stood a lot closer, we did charge the priest when he was 5% health but did no damage at all, and we managed to get credit this time :)
 
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Belomar said:
There's a difference between focus pulling and using a normal pet to kill a mob. However, both methods are possible for the High Priest, as well as a few other encounters.
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ok, meaning that Midgard once again is on the downside thx to Mythic. We can only charm lowerlvl mobs so. :(
 
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Phule_Gubben said:
ok, meaning that Midgard once again is on the downside thx to Mythic. We can only charm lowerlvl mobs so. :(
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a warrior works just as well as a pet. :rolleyes:
 
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