Hib Caster´s RA thread

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old.Takahome

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If u can, list ur choice here, ur realm points avaible and ur realm ability choice.

http://www.camelotherald.com/realmabilities/abilities.html

General realm ability page, choose ur class

I´ve got r3l7 so far, so I spend all my 27 this way (just to test MoC):

Augmented Acuity 3 = 10

Mastery of Concentration = 14

Mystic Crystal Lore 1 = 3

I´ll post here again soon to tell u my test about MoC (mostly 4 pbaoers)

Tnx all and plz imput ur own choice, why, and after test if it worth the points, so when patch comes on live we don´t need to buy useless skills.

Btw how many respecs we got in 1.50 about RAs?
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Think I'm gonna go on Gorre tonight and grab Wild Arcana 4.. I have about 25 or so points to spend atm, so that will take off a big 20...
the other 4, I dunno yet..

But I really have to test how good WA is, and the dmg output, before live :)
 
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old.Xanthian

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I had 20 points to spend, i havent really studied the realm skills list yet, so i just got negative maelstrom.
Its not the best oif spells, but its fun :D
Its on a 30 min timer and it lasts about 5-8 pulses..
heres a screeny of when I cast it at AMG on Gorre in the middle of all the duels :p

maelstrom.gif
 
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old.Takahome

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I have tested MoC, vs cerveloc (sp?), I died after he burnt an IP, coz he resisted my mez :(

617 a hit with halberk to a epic armor caster... ouch!

Well I hit 705 x 3 or 4 be4 I dropped... tbh... should have stunned him :p

Anyway, according to notes, it incease 100% the posibility of no interrupt, so at lvl 50 u r not interruptable by any chance, I´m pretty sure CC spells should affect it, but no interrupt´s plain nice to have, if u r a pbaoer, u´ll wanna buy it, how many times u got frustrated with ya pbaoe just bc somebody throw u a dirty look and "INTERRUPT"?

We´ll soon c how good other special abilities r, btw chanters don´t buy ya special RA, it worth 0 rps, yes 0!

Suggest choice: Acuity 2 --> serenity 2 --> MCL (have it be4 Acuity is nice at lvl 50, in r vs r sitting down regen time´s V low, and a 5 min 30% mana recovery´s plain nice) --> FA 2 (yes, since u won´t be in combat ever, u can use it anytime, 50%-60% hp heal can save ya butt MANY times, specially when an assasin runs after PA u, tnking u r died) --> purge (well self xplanatory) --> if u got more points... MoC, and some lvls of wild Power never hurt.

MCL´s good even to lvling, if u got 3 rps to spend as a low lvl caster, go 4 MCL, it´ll worth it´s price in gold, trust me.

To have all above skill be4 purge (IMO all necessary and useful) u need: 1 + 3 + 1 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 6 = 20 points, R3L0 that´s it.

Hope it helps, plz more input needed.
 
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old.Takahome

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Ok, MoC isn´t anti CC, nor can u do it from mez/stun nor it prevents u from being CCed :p Well it works as intented :)

Anyway, here´s some interesting duels I had:

Vs a sorc, who mez first wins, unless I have my MoC on, since both can ae mez and when mezzed with pet he´s died as well with spells... np

Vs a wizzy... all comes to the nearsight, if it hits, my victory, otherwise, I´m died as well.

Vs a SB... well... 1 hit... CD... stun = 6 sec.. bye bye. NO chance, due to way LOW hp (942 unbuffed isn´t that low... but vs a SB... god bless), if he fight w/o PA, he´s died.

Vs a CLERIC (yes I´m mad :p) Both lvl 50, Fundra´s her name, in epic armor both, tried 3 times, win 1. First time me being silly kept nearsighting her... forgot that she´s got pb mez... mez... stun... dd x 3, silver hp left, dead meat. Second time I mezzed her, stun being resisted... lost. Third time I nearsight, DD, mez, move on her, stun + pbaoe x 2 and she´s got silver hp left, I won. It´s a R hard work, since a single spell failed = my death, insta heal + FA + IP = not bearable unless u stun. Can´t imagine life of other realm´s casters... really... stun´s THE spell we have!

MoC and malestrom r both situational spells, just wanna use MoC since it´s less noticeble, not loot bag, beside pbaoe ownz close range... 705 on cerveloc, who´s got uber buffs and being one fearsible opponent´s not that bad, with instas from druids no LOS required, u can actually pbaoe getting out from a keep and do it and then get inside, rinse and repeat with another pbaoer... since it´s 30 min timer.. u hardly got 2 of em each keep raid.

IMO no of em worh 14 points, 10´s bearable.

Will change em 4 serenity 2 and fa 2 soon, keep in touch ^_-
 
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lofff

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Am caster in scale so that thread involves me :p

First Aid II
Ignore Pain
Purge
Aug con I
Toughness I
Aug dex I

:clap:

ps: looking forward to aug dex II MoPain etc etc
 
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old.Takahome

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More duelling and bump (come on casters, plz post ya comment here ;) )

Vs Dadi a Pally with Energy resist chant on, my dd did pathetic dmg, 100-200 (according to him, 100ish /cry) and my pb did 500+-dmg, not that bad at all. Same tactic, mez step on and pb, but I did a DD and 2 pb, so not killed him but left him with a silver of hp, he insisted on taking me, burnt IP and kept fighting, so I burnt MOC and killed him with 1/2 hp left... feeling good, any1 knows how hard a pally is to kill heheh :D

And vs another fire wizzy, nearsight spamming, interrupt him plenty of times, and then mez when he run close, and bye bye :p

Actually I wanna go MCL, AA 3 and MoC, and will buy serenity later and then FA2 or WP2 (Wild Power, 5% crit per lvl)
 
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old.Xanthian

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I think i'll save my points for now, only having 21 im pretty much limited to things I can buy.

So i'll get lvl 50 1st then hopefully RR4 :)

But I probably WILL get NA, as it could be a handy tactic for keep defence and the RP farming potential is great :D
 
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cokeuberalles

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I'm getting MoC as well and then I'm going to try to get wild power to lvl 3, but that'll take some time unfortunately.
 
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Armolas

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Wild Arcana 3, as Well as the Augmented Acuity prerequisite.

Currently less than 10k RP left before I get Wild Arcana 4, after that, I'm not too sure what to go for, probably some sort of MCL and possibly AoM,
 
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old.Takahome

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IMO MoC´s more useful 4 any pbaoer or lifedrain DD casters, since when u use it u r mostly being hit, and u want kill enemy (enemies) FAST, otherwise u drop damn fast, only insta heals or 500+ heals can save u, so I really don´t recommend that to any caster but pbers in hib.

Remember it´s 14 points, u sure have other uses 4 it, I can find a lot... or u can have rr10 and spend in all stuffs u need :D
 
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old.Xanthian

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I've decided to spend my 21 points (RR3L1) on the following:

Augemented Acuity L2 - Increase your class's casting stat by 6 per level. Eldritch: Intelligence.

Augemented Constitution L1 - Increases your character’s Constitution by 6 per level.

Serenity L1 - Your spell points regenerate faster than normal.

Wild Power L1 - Increases your spell damage by increasing your spell’s chance to do critical damage by 5% chance per level of this ability. Spells affected are direct damage and bolts.

Negative Maelstrom - Ground-targetted radius cloud spell that lasts 30 seconds. Every 3 seconds anyone within the radius of the object representing the center of the cloud takes damage. The damage is percent based, and goes up with the user's level.


The reason why i never chose MoC is.... I hardly get chance to use PBAOE in rvr, so i really dont see the point in using 3/4 of my points on something thta i wont really use, whereas Maelstrom has many uses :flame:
 
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cokeuberalles

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Yea Takahome, it's more useful for pbaers, but I'm running around solo alot and it's very good when you want to mez a few opponents that you normally couldn't handle with just one quick cast, but I might rethink actually and go for inscreased nuke dmg instead, wild power/mastery of magery. I need to stop soloing anyway.
 
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old.Niljindil

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I currently have:

Aug con 1
Toughness 1
Aug acuity 2
Mastery of Magery 3
Wild power 1
Mystic Crystal lore 2
Serenity 1

And im at r4 l0 with 3 points left to spend, will save them to buy aug acuity 3 and mastery of the art 2.

After that ill prolly either put some more into wild power or up my toughness/aug con. Possibly a point into aug dex.

The only thing i want when buying RAs is, to be able to charm anything(note: MCL 2) to DD really good(note: MoM and MoA and Wp) and to survive longer(Aug con/toughness).

One thing to note, aug con gives more hits than toughness, but aug con 2 costs 3 times as much as toughness 1 so if you are planning on taking aug con 2 raise toughness first.

I got 32 and 19 respectively.

And, yeah, I 2shotted a yellow cleric called Tjigerin(full health) with these RAs, critted on both tho(think first was 60 and second 70, so not that much), but MoM + wild power is just an insane damage increase.
 
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old.Mick

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RR3 atm 20 points to spend

Augmented Acuity 2
Serenity 2
Wild Power 2
Mastery of Magery 2
Mystic Crystal Lore 1

1 point left over, saving for MoM 3 or WP 3

MCL is a must for mentalists, u get ghetto ressed and can cast hot, pot and bubble or urself immediately and with serenity 2 can get full mana and hp back very fast
 
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old.Zanaa

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Did not read all soures about Ras, but got some questions i might get quick answers to here.

Do you know How Wild Power/arcana and mastery of magery calculates? Is it a 5% increase of the chance you have atm for critical, or is it an extra chance that 5% of all your dds will crit?. Is a 3% increase in DD adding to the baseDD of the spell, or the actual damage to the enemy?(if this matters, think it does).

Anyway light45 seems to be only way to go now with pot capped at 5 and lower stun/IP, wish we had respec already. Heard something about wild arcana kicking in v often and doing some 150damage/tick when landed, gonna try to put 1 point in it.
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by old.Zanaa
Did not read all soures about Ras, but got some questions i might get quick answers to here.

Do you know How Wild Power/arcana and mastery of magery calculates? Is it a 5% increase of the chance you have atm for critical, or is it an extra chance that 5% of all your dds will crit?. Is a 3% increase in DD adding to the baseDD of the spell, or the actual damage to the enemy?(if this matters, think it does).

THe wild RAs increases your chance to crit by that much, so wild power 1 = 15% chance to crit and wild power 2 = 20% chance to crit and so on and so forth. Seen logs on it, so know its true.

The MoM increases to the actual damage done. This means that you can go over your DD cap if you have very high mom and/or is hitting blues/greens or lower.

Originally posted by old.Zanaa
Anyway light45 seems to be only way to go now with pot capped at 5 and lower stun/IP, wish we had respec already. Heard something about wild arcana kicking in v often and doing some 150damage/tick when landed, gonna try to put 1 point in it.

Well, i can 3shot any level 50 cleric, and since i can stun them and kill them before stun runs out(and thus hindering them from instahealing) unless they got resist buffs and capped resists, id pretty much say that 45 light = most uber single kill template in hib(for all 3 classes). Even better than bolts imho.

Thats it from me.
 
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old.Niljindil

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Just a thing for all mages.

Wild power:

5% extra chance to crit.

Average crit against Players is 25%(changed in some patch after 1.45 where ppl whined about getting hit for 1500++ by pbae and bolts).

5% extra chance means that 5% of your nukes you will do 25% etra damage.

Thats is a 1,25% average damage increase.

Compare that to Mastery of magery or mastery of the art.

Mastery of magery is a plain 3% increase, and mastery of the art is a 3% damage speed increase(if you would nuke continually for like 10 minutes, this RA would net you about the same amount of extra damage as MoM) which means that wild power 1 > mom/moa 2, but mom/moa 3> wild power 2. And mom/moa 4 ~ wild power 2(the ><= means which nets you most damage for the cheapest cost.)

Just some random mathematical damage info :)

All in all, invest in MoM before you raise wild power above 1.
 
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old.Tzeentch

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While nilji is mentioning crits and base chance, anyone see Kwea's report for august? lol

hope it happens
 
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cokeuberalles

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I tried out wild power 3 and MoM 3 yesterday and all I can say is I'm definatly keeping those. I critted like mad, nuking for over 800 damage 3 times on yellow cons with my 45 light DD, with a new high of 854 with acuity buff. That has only happened on rare occasions before. I also got MCL which I found to be very helpful. Next up is wild power 4 for sure.
 
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old.Takahome

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I need r4l1 be4 I can buy serenity2...

Next will be WP1, MoM1, toughness 1, aug con 1, FA1...

Damn can´t afford any1 up till 2 unless I throw my MoC away... will decide later... 30 min timer´s a bit high tbh... 20 or 15 would be perfect...after all it cost me 14 rps...
 
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foolou

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You gotta get maelstrom.

It really rocks .. tonight we killed alpha in a small group of 3, lvl 50 eld, lvl 40 and lvl 45 dr00d.

Ofc he was on me first .. so i got my groundtarget ready while i was mezzed and set my maelstrom just as he started to hit me .. i went down as easy as i always do but :

this spell safed my m8s.

Some stupid caster that tried to help alpha ran away because he didn't seem to understand from where the damage came.
And Alpha took so much damage that even his fabulous gigantic realmrank (and maybe some strange buffs) couldn't safe his ass.

Maelstrom might not be the coolest of all abilities but it can be the little extra that makes the difference.

Imagine a combined maelstrom of several elds at keep lord when albs zerg in. It won't stop to work when all casters are dead.
 
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old.ST200

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Wild power simply rocks

MCL1 simply rocks for the cost

> rawr <
 
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old.Zanaa

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Actually when I tested some (on mobs, not with maths) , MoM didn't increase my damage much, nothing that would make a difference against 1500hp enemies. Increased acuity seems to give a much larger increase.

Wild power however, kicks arse in rvr and is a must for 35/36 ments. With wild power3 I can be sure to crit at least once in almost every fight which allows me to still kill ppl who got a lot of stunresist with my lev35nuke (which I before patch almost always did and that was the reason 35/36 was better than 45light before - but that has changed now).
 
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old.Niljindil

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Originally posted by old.Zanaa
Actually when I tested some (on mobs, not with maths) , MoM didn't increase my damage much, nothing that would make a difference against 1500hp enemies. Increased acuity seems to give a much larger increase.

Wild power however, kicks arse in rvr and is a must for 35/36 ments. With wild power3 I can be sure to crit at least once in almost every fight which allows me to still kill ppl who got a lot of stunresist with my lev35nuke (which I before patch almost always did and that was the reason 35/36 was better than 45light before - but that has changed now).

well, the difference between mom 0 and mom 3 is that now i can 2shot *all* casters except if they got insane heat resists.

And more importantly, it raises your damage CAP :D
 
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old.Laryssa

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2L5 now = 15 pts

I do not have specced yet but what u think:

Augmented Acuity 2
Augmented Constitution 1
Mastery Of Magery 2
Serenity 1 (does it stack with PoT??)
Toughness 1
Wild Power 1
Mystic Crystal Lore 1
 
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Lisco_Cataluz

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Well im at rr3L1

and table looks like this:

Augmented Agility II
Serenity I
Wild Power II
Wild Arcana III

Still got couple points to go, but ill save em for Wild Power III or Wild Arcana IV

All i can add to this that, now i can really blast em off at RvR :)

Im not sure about Serenity I stacking with Enpowering Perfection (Mana Regen 5 value), but it sure is usefull when u get rezzed and gain power back more quickly to cast HoT & PoT on yourself.

If it stacks it should be like basic rate is (1) + Serenity (1) + Enpowering Perfection (5) = 7

Correct me if im wrong...
 
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old.Laryssa

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u can't go above MR5 - it's a cap

so MR5+Serenity xx does not work i heard
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Hm?

Last time I checked, serenity did stack with all forms of mana regen, albeit with diminishing returns.

There is no hard cap as such...

If you want, I can test this tonight, I haven't tested it yet because we just got the patch and it never really came to mind :)
 

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